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2000-10-16 18:10Brian flanagan [idm] incredible my arse
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2000-10-16 18:10Brian flanaganwell, it certainly wasn't incredible, and it definitely didnt match my definition of a par
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well, it certainly wasn't incredible, and it definitely didnt match my definition of a party.. the main room was a joke, the bottleneck layout was stupid and led to massive overcrowding near the stage, and there was nothing to indicate a running order ANYWHERE, if there ever was, it had probably been removed by some drooling spotter, as had a lot of the direction notices on the way from the station. as for the music, BOC were ok, it was nice to hear their new stuff, especially after steve beckett made a point of dismissing vocoders as played out on the warp site a while back..... so vocoders are only old hat when used on another companies records eh? Boc are nice in a living room, they don't work live really.. the scary part of the night happened here.... a fire alarm went off for about 5 minutes when BOC's set started... people were dancing to it, some were clapping along to it... and i believe many applauded it, believing it to be part of the set when it finished... this leads me to assume the following: if people were dancing to/applauding a fire alarm and actually thought this was BOC, i can only assume these people will dance to anything, given the belief that it is being performed by a "big name" (this assumption was reinforced later that night) Plaid were great too, though they really didn't sound too much different from the recorded versions. the only other highlight for me was rob hall's set in the skam room... an excuse to dance for a while and actually have some fun... this is my definition of a party.. but after robs set, back came the digital goop and people looked confused/bemused and the majority stopped dancing.. at this point I cannot say who was playing where as most things i heard from either of the 2 area just sounded the fucking same... wooshy noises, clattery formless autechre soundalike beats and the common site of more people either sat around or stood looking bemused/unimpressed/conned. shame i missed mike wiliiamsons performance (the only performing member of the skam crew i stll have respect for), as this may have lifted my spirits a tad after several hours of walking from building to building in the vain hope of actually hearing something entertaining, the final insult was preparing itself... bogdan... for fucks sake... the only people that like this shit must be 14 year old kids with DHR t-shirts and chain wallets that still say WAZZZUP! watching the few fuckups that were actually attempting to dance was hysterical... drooling (literally) vibrating MDEA fucked morons that looked like their ambition in life was to pretend they had cerebral palsy. if only i had video camera to have filmed them, i reckon i could have put them off drugs for life.. if cheesy speeded up "drill and bass" (puh-leeze!) is the future, give me the '80s then aphex.......(i think) if the sound of a semi decent spymania tune with the added sounds of elephants being burnt alive is your idea of fun , fine... however it seemed for most people this wasnt the case.. people were leaving in droves not long after bogdan started hs shitbarrage... the place halved in number. and so it continued... irritating painful noises designed to annoy the fuck out of all and sundry continued into the night... i'm sure that the rephlex boys found it all hysterical.. as would any prepubescent death metal fan.. this isn't the first time rephlex and their jolly little crew have pulled shit like this.. like the BLECH nights where grant decided to play chart music and roland rat to the chorus of "WANKER" from a large number of the crowd. and that was it... a complete and utter joke.... never EVER will i be duped by the warp hype ever again. The idea of a "party" for me is one of ENTERTAINMENT not endurance, of having fun and rocking out with friends and fellow ravers, not being confused, insulted and blatantly have the piss taken. the idea of recording equipment being banned in such a manner was funny, especially considering that i'll be getting 80 quids worth of warp mp3's (including the new BOC) off napster to compensate for the money I wasted on me and my girlfriend getting there. as for anyone actually recording anything from the show, it'll be great that other people will be able hear the sound of a scene imploding, or if not, the sound of a scene with its head right up it's arse trying it's damndest to do so. Agree? disagree? i'll be interested to hear what else other people think.... if i'm in a minority, obviously i and my label have no place in a scene where anal, insular, music is de rigeur,and i'll be trying to find a more lighter, FUN oriented list (anyone know if electrobreaks is still around?) Brian STUDIO MOO GRAFIKDESIGNCONSTRUKT DATATHIEF AUDIOPROJEKT http://www.madasafish.com/user/~studiomoo/
2000-10-16 18:18tombrian (+idm), thanks for the comments i agree with most of what you have to say a lot! the
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brian (+idm), thanks for the comments i agree with most of what you have to say a lot! the stupid thing is, all their security to confiscate 'recording devices' was silly, we got 2 MD recorders in and only because we didn't want to hand them in.. i mean, we were in london for the weekend and had our bags.. do they expect us to leave our stuff somewhere to come to their party? no.. so we brought all our stuff along, and they didn't pick up on them. so in theory we could have recorded the show, and i know people did.. and the mp3s already exist to prove it. but as i've said before on idm, i think bootlegging is the biggest waste of time ever. things i thought were shit: the bag checks and hence very long queues to get in.. this is plainly ridiculous, especially given it didn't work. the large crowds all forced into small spaces due to poor venue planning the shit acoustics of the buildings the beer prices the bar running out of alcohol at 12.30 no drinking water available the size of the VIP area compared to 'our space' the placing of the stage in the middle of the room, which could have been moved back loads to give more space for people to see in the main room. the pathetic attempt at visuals in the warp room.. ok, boards had some and that was about it!!!!!!! GOD.. wake up guys?
quoted 4 lines if people were dancing to/applauding a fire alarm and actually thought this>if people were dancing to/applauding a fire alarm and actually thought this >was BOC, i can only assume these people will dance to anything, given the >belief that it is being performed by a "big name" (this assumption was >reinforced later that night)
are you sure they weren't taking the piss? i certainly was when the fire alarm was going off. i found it particularly amusing given the shitness of the event i'd already experienced of the event at that point.
quoted 9 lines bogdan...>bogdan... > >for fucks sake... the only people that like this shit must be 14 year old >kids with DHR t-shirts and chain wallets that still say WAZZZUP! watching >the few fuckups that were actually attempting to dance was hysterical... >drooling (literally) vibrating MDEA fucked morons that looked like their >ambition in life was to pretend they had cerebral palsy. if only i had video >camera to have filmed them, i reckon i could have put them off drugs for >life..
well.. tell bjork you think that.. she was dancing next to me for most of the bogdan set and seemed to be getting down to it in a big style. i too was getting down bigstylee.. he rocked and kicked shit into most things that nite!
quoted 1 line then aphex.......(i think)>then aphex.......(i think)
apparently aphex was on at 5.50... before that was chris cunningham i am led to believe.. during this set i went home. tomx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-10-16 18:27%andrew<Someone said something along these lines...> > Boc are nice in a living room, they don't
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<Someone said something along these lines...>
quoted 12 lines Boc are nice in a living room, they don't work live really..> Boc are nice in a living room, they don't work live really.. > > the scary part of the night happened here.... a fire alarm went off for > about 5 minutes when BOC's set started... people were dancing to it, some > were clapping along to it... and i believe many applauded it, believing it > to be part of the set when it finished... this leads me to assume the > following: > > if people were dancing to/applauding a fire alarm and actually thought this > was BOC, i can only assume these people will dance to anything, given the > belief that it is being performed by a "big name" (this assumption was > reinforced later that night)
Or, people were just having a lot of fucking fun, and thought the fire alarm was a bit ironic and silly...
quoted 9 lines bogdan...> bogdan... > > for fucks sake... the only people that like this shit must be 14 year old > kids with DHR t-shirts and chain wallets that still say WAZZZUP! watching > the few fuckups that were actually attempting to dance was hysterical... > drooling (literally) vibrating MDEA fucked morons that looked like their > ambition in life was to pretend they had cerebral palsy. if only i had video > camera to have filmed them, i reckon i could have put them off drugs for > life..
Wow, the above paragraph get's the cake for most idiotic IDM quote ever. Now, I'm no expert, but I enjoy Bogdans "sped up 'drill 'n' bass'". However, I also enjoy removing my chain wallet, sitting back in my easy chair with my pipe and ascot and appreciating the finer points of autechre. I have "ecclectic" tastes in music, as it were. Occasionaly, if I'm a a r*ve, I'll even dance. While it may not be the most intelligent way to enjoy the beautiful gift of electronic music, it is fun. Try it sometime, you might like it. Oh, and it's "MDMA" moron, perhaps you took a little too much "LCD" at the party...
quoted 2 lines if cheesy speeded up "drill and bass" (puh-leeze!) is the future, give me> if cheesy speeded up "drill and bass" (puh-leeze!) is the future, give me > the '80s
Jesus christ... -andrew -- andrew smith is white rabbits. http://www.konfused.net/~asmith/ Eupholus Records: (217)353-5188 http://www.eupholus.net/ "The stupider it looks, the more important it probably is..." --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-10-16 22:46Ant>well, it certainly wasn't incredible, and it definitely didnt match my definition of a pa
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quoted 1 line well, it certainly wasn't incredible, and it definitely didnt match my>well, it certainly wasn't incredible, and it definitely didnt match my
definition of a party.. Sometimes i wonder if people go out with the intent of having a shit time and finding things to slag off. Do you lead a happy life or do you find everything shit? I bet you're a complete miserable bastard. .
quoted 1 line the main room was a joke, the bottleneck layout was stupid and led to>the main room was a joke, the bottleneck layout was stupid and led to
massive overcrowding near the stage, and there was nothing to indicate a running order ANYWHERE, if there ever was, it had probably been removed by some drooling spotter, as had a lot of the direction notices on the way from the station. So what there were bottle necks - easily got past with a small amount of effort and patience.
quoted 1 line as for the music, BOC were ok, it was nice to hear their new stuff,>as for the music, BOC were ok, it was nice to hear their new stuff,
especially after steve beckett made a point of dismissing vocoders as played out on the warp site a while back..... so vocoders are only old hat when used on another companies records eh?
quoted 1 line Boc are nice in a living room, they don't work live really..>Boc are nice in a living room, they don't work live really..
As I said before WHAT DID YOU EXPECT!!! If you don't think Boc work live DONT GO TO SEE THEM LIVE
quoted 1 line if people were dancing to/applauding a fire alarm and actually thought this>if people were dancing to/applauding a fire alarm and actually thought this
was BOC, i can only assume these people will dance to anything, given the belief that it is being performed by a "big name" (this assumption was reinforced later that night) If you dont care about "big names" but just the quality of music why does the lack of a running order bother you?
quoted 1 line Plaid were great too, though they really didn't sound too much different>Plaid were great too, though they really didn't sound too much different
from the recorded versions. Glad you liked something.
quoted 1 line bogdan...>bogdan...
was/is a star
quoted 1 line for fucks sake... the only people that like this shit must be 14 year old>for fucks sake... the only people that like this shit must be 14 year old
kids with DHR t-shirts and chain wallets that still say WAZZZUP! watching the few fuckups that were actually attempting to dance was hysterical... drooling (literally) vibrating MDEA fucked morons that looked like their ambition in life was to pretend they had cerebral palsy. if only i had video camera to have filmed them, i reckon i could have put them off drugs for life.. So when people do start partying and dancing they are fuck-ups...
quoted 1 line if cheesy speeded up "drill and bass" (puh-leeze!) is the future, give me>if cheesy speeded up "drill and bass" (puh-leeze!) is the future, give me
the '80s ??????????
quoted 1 line Agree? disagree? i'll be interested to hear what else other people>Agree? disagree? i'll be interested to hear what else other people
think.... if i'm in a minority, obviously i and my label have no place in a scene where anal, insular, music is de rigeur,and i'll be trying to find a more lighter, FUN oriented list (anyone know if electrobreaks is still around?) Well I thought Bogdans set _was_ fun as did most people around me. I enjoyed the whole affair - musically it was what I expected and what I thought most people on this list who are familiar with the artists/labels involved would expect. The only pissed off people I met were those who expected an all night techno dance party and hadn't heard of any the people playing (and taking up precious tickets from those who would have appreciated it). Maybe Warp should have dropped the rave tag or turned a room over to Weatherall/Two Lone Swordsmen for those in need of repetitive beats. My second 2 cents (that makes 4) Ant --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-10-16 19:34blataf>The idea of a "party" for me is one of ENTERTAINMENT not endurance, of >having fun and ro
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quoted 3 lines The idea of a "party" for me is one of ENTERTAINMENT not endurance, of>The idea of a "party" for me is one of ENTERTAINMENT not endurance, of >having fun and rocking out with friends and fellow ravers, not being >confused, insulted and blatantly have the piss taken.
then fucking well stay at home. ahpex/rephlex were BOUND to take the piss. why was i the only one smiling, esp when the blue jam "the gush" sample was played... _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-10-16 23:14rebecca263gee, now i'm sorry i didn't go! Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 19:10:35 +0100 To: <idm@hyperreal.o
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gee, now i'm sorry i didn't go! Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 19:10:35 +0100 To: <idm@hyperreal.org> From: "Brian flanagan" <studiomoo@madasafish.com> Subject: incredible my arse Message-ID: <007801c0379c$62b922e0$dba426d4@d7f9a0> well, it certainly wasn't incredible, and it definitely didnt match my definition of a party............................................................................ wooshy noises, clattery formless autechre soundalike beats and the common site of more people either sat around or stood looking bemused/unimpressed/conned.