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" :jason (i'm not here, this isn't happening)" speaking of that last phrase... how many went out and bought radiohead yesterday? i, personally, have been an extremely large fan for a long while, but i think Kid A is gonna alienate all those fans out there that are lookin for another Bends Brian Hulick _-==- :The highest understanding is to rightly know our Creator. The wisest judgment is to lie as if in His very presence.:

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quoted 2 lines speaking of that last phrase... how many went out and bought radiohead

> speaking of that last phrase... how many went out and bought radiohead > yesterday? i, personally, have been an extremely large fan for a long

while,

quoted 2 lines but i think Kid A is gonna alienate all those fans out there that

> but i think Kid A is gonna alienate all those fans out there that > are lookin for another Bends

or it may work like NIN's pretty hate machine and convert another slew of guitar worshipers over to electronic devices.. (note: i do not hate guitars) aaron systorm technologies www.systorm.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

i picked it up .... there was a very interesting cross section of people at the record store, i saw high school kids that probably tune into TRL daily standing next to crusty punkers and ravers, all eager to get a copy. it's nice to see a band able to capture that sort of universal appeal everybody seems to be pretty expectant about radiohead. i think they are an oasis of talent in a vast desert of shite "modern rock" ... you can argue whether or not they "rule" or "suck" but goddamn, at least they try to push boundaries, as opposed to other "top 40" bands like blink 182 or Limp Bizkit. regarding the "oh no they're going to expose electronica to the masses" worries that i have seen popping up on the list: i understand the "this music is mine, you'll never understand it and you just like it because mtv told you to" angst, i went through it with Nine Inch Nails and Jesus Jones when i was 17 years old. but it's a futile concern that serves only to stroke the egos of those who "heard it first" it's all part of the evolution that takes place all the time ... the avant garde push the boundaries of what is considered "acceptable artwork" and sooner or later, the bourgeoisie rush in to fill in the vacuum. it serves as a mechanism to propel the avant garde in new directions. so be happy that the frat boys will soon be jamming autechre from the speakers of their SUVs, because that is the true sound of innovation. -josh -- String Theory : Digital Music for Humans http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, aaron wrote:

quoted 21 lines speaking of that last phrase... how many went out and bought radiohead

> > speaking of that last phrase... how many went out and bought radiohead > > yesterday? i, personally, have been an extremely large fan for a long > while, > > but i think Kid A is gonna alienate all those fans out there that > > are lookin for another Bends > > or it may work like NIN's pretty hate machine and convert another slew of > guitar worshipers over to electronic devices.. > > (note: i do not hate guitars) > > aaron > systorm technologies > www.systorm.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, aaron wrote:

quoted 2 lines speaking of that last phrase... how many went out and bought radiohead

> > speaking of that last phrase... how many went out and bought radiohead > > yesterday?

Yeah, sure. I might be speaking prematurely since I've only listened to it a couple of times, but my reaction so far has been lukewarm at best. I thought there are like 2 or 3 OK songs, but the album just kinda washed over me and didn't leave much of an impression. There's nothing very exceptional about it. Both the writing and the sounds they use are rather average. At times I thought there was some naive use of DSP, like "hey, I just discovered timestretching". Maybe my expectations were too high after "OK Computer", but I don't think that's entirely it. And it doesn't sound like a band record to me which is probably due to the absence of guitars which was the dominant sound on their previous albums. I guess the guitar players decided to switch to keyboards for the new one. And I have to say I actually find Yorke's whining annoying at times. I'm bitchin' aren't I ? I'm just dissapointed. And it's not that I was expecting "OK Computer 2" cuz I'm willing to accept whatever new direction they wanna go into, I just thought they'd make a better record. And to those people who think it sounds like IDM or Autechre, you must be on crack ! "Idioteque" (I think) superficially resembles a track off "EP7", but that's about it imo.

quoted 3 lines i, personally, have been an extremely large fan for a long while,

> > i, personally, have been an extremely large fan for a long while, > > but i think Kid A is gonna alienate all those fans out there that > > are lookin for another Bends

Why would anyone expect "The Bends" after "OK Computer" !? Andrei --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Kid A will be looked at as 'the weird one' by mainstream audiences. People are still complaining that they haven't done much that sounds like The Bends in a while. It is not going to start a revolution in mainstream tastes. Trust me. -Nathan

quoted 3 lines so be happy that the frat boys will soon be jamming autechre from the

> > so be happy that the frat boys will soon be jamming autechre from the > speakers of their SUVs, because that is the true sound of innovation.

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yeah, i'll agree ... too bad, that. at least radiohead belongs to us again :) listened to "Pablo Honey" for the first time last week ... could they have tried any harder to sound like u2? josh -- String Theory : Digital Music for Humans http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Nathan Lueckenhoff wrote:

quoted 18 lines Kid A will be looked at as 'the weird one' by mainstream audiences. People

> Kid A will be looked at as 'the weird one' by mainstream audiences. People > are still complaining that they haven't done much that sounds like The Bends > in a while. It is not going to start a revolution in mainstream tastes. > Trust me. > > -Nathan > > > > > so be happy that the frat boys will soon be jamming autechre from the > > speakers of their SUVs, because that is the true sound of innovation. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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quoted 4 lines Kid A will be looked at as 'the weird one' by mainstream audiences. People

> Kid A will be looked at as 'the weird one' by mainstream audiences. People > are still complaining that they haven't done much that sounds like The Bends > in a while. It is not going to start a revolution in mainstream tastes. > Trust me.

i agree. getting tired ok all this Kid a talk, not into them myself. but thought people might be interesed in this. not a mention of Ae http://www.time.com/time/magazine/articles/0,3266,56396,00.html Jeff --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org