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[idm] live shows, laptops, rock bands, and what I didn't have for luncheon

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2000-09-15 00:47jimg [idm] live shows, laptops, rock bands, and what I didn't have for luncheon
2000-09-15 16:10recombinant Re: [idm] live shows, laptops, rock bands, and what I didn't have for luncheon
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2000-09-15 00:47jimgLots o' good posts on this subject. "How to do the perfect Live PA" is a topic that I spen
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intelligent dancing meatloaf
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Thu, 14 Sep 2000 17:47:37 -0700 (PDT)
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[idm] live shows, laptops, rock bands, and what I didn't have for luncheon
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Lots o' good posts on this subject. "How to do the perfect Live PA" is a topic that I spend alot of time thinking on... I previously said that live gigs with laptops+mouse-terbation sucked, and that I'd never do it myself. I must revise that statement. I still will never do it myself (until I can feasibly rig up a custom controller unit, plugged into a 'puter, running perhaps MAX or something customizable like that), but I must add that I -have- experienced live laptop gigs that were very memorable. Someone just posted and said that, primarily, the MUSIC is what makes/breaks a show. In retrospect, I wholeheartly agree. I also think that you need to factor in the VENUE, as well...and choose music to perform which is appropriate to the expectations of that venue. People usually go to a club expecting to dance, while at a coffeeshop or art gallery, for example, they don't. Some may see this as selling out, I do not. If you want to be a pure *artiste* and not cater at all to the audience's expectations, present your music in an appropriate environment. If you want to be a *performer/entertainer*, different rules apply. If the two things coincide, then you're lucky, I guess. Laptop Examples: Two laptop shows I've seen which stand out are Phoenecia and Twerk (San Francisco localboy). Phoenecia I saw in February '99 at the Cat Club in SOMA, which has probably the BEST low-end of any club in the city. Gear they used was a G3 laptop, Mackie 1604VLZ mixer, Alesis Wedge & Boss SE50/70 (couldn't tell) effects units, and an EMU sampler. One guy manned the laptop, which was running Logic (I think), and the other guy tweaked on the sampler, with the mixer and effects between them. They were set up on a table in the dark back room, with no visuals or special lights. They rocked the house...let me repeat that: THEY ROCKED THE FUCKING HOUSE. Most of the tracks they played were SUPER bass-heavy with tuned 808-ish bass kicks and electro-y beats (Odd Job, etc). The room was packed, dark, sweaty, LOUD, and everyone was shakin' booty. Yet, of course, there wasn't much to see. One thing that got to me was that Josh and Romulo were clearly having a great time and were very energetic--they weren't inanely prancing about nor grimacing into their screens...rather there was much headnodding and interaction between them, which I think carried out to the crowd. Ritchey Devine went on next, and performed with just a laptop. Although his stuff kicked ass too, I wasn't as consumed with his performance for some reason...I think it was because his style of music is more abstract (to me). Lots of other people were just as driven by it, however. More recently (a few months ago) I saw Twerk perform at a warehouse/loft party in SF. He performed minimal techno using just a laptop. I really got into his stuff, too. Again, there was zero to look at (I think he was actually sitting down) but his stuff was just really nice and smooth and interesting...it made me dance. I had never heard his stuff before, and I don't know how "live" or dynamic his set was, but it worked for me. Gear Examples: Another live PA I saw which stands out--I saw Jon Drukman/Bass Kittens at the Cat Club last year, too. He had Nord Stuff (Modular rack, Lead keyboard), some other small keyboard synth, and a Korg Electribe ER-1 and Boss DR-660. Did electro-y stuff as well. I really got off on the fact that he wasn't using a computer and it seemed that lots of his stuff was improvised. I really dug it. And on the other hand I've seen tons of people perform w/o computers, w/ piles o'gear, and the music they made didn't appeal to me... So I dunno...what does all this prove? I'm at a loss. I -can- say that what definitely tweaks me off is when I see someone live who's music I've heard before on CD or whatever, and for their live set they note-for-note reproduce what was on the CD. I hate that--I could just sit at home and listen in my living room. I -really- appreciate it when they obviously play brand-new music, or keep me interested by playing reworked-versions of existing tracks, improvised on the spot...along with a healthy dose of "shit I'm having fun playing" energy, too. That's what I attempt to project when we play live. I think the -best- live shows are the ones that can't be reproduced. ;) -JimG <skoop@slackers.net> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-09-15 16:10recombinant> along with > a healthy dose of "shit I'm having fun playing" energy, too. > > That's wha
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Fri, 15 Sep 2000 09:10:53 -0700
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Re: [idm] live shows, laptops, rock bands, and what I didn't have for luncheon
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quoted 4 lines along with> along with > a healthy dose of "shit I'm having fun playing" energy, too. > > That's what I attempt to project when we play live.
I've seen you guys play live (in fact, right before Phoenecia), and you *definitely* project that feeling. You guys totally rocked the house that evening! evan k. stone | recombinant --------------------------------------------------- e: recombinant@hotmail.com | w: www.metro.net/estone/ mp3: www.mp3.com/recombinant | music. (coming soon) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org