All
I'm plainly not advocating recreational drug use. I'm also not trying to say
that being stoned or drunk makes you a better artist. What I AM trying to
say is that the human brain is complex. Sometimes a drug or a drink can open
new pathways to thought and some people enjoy this.
And, yes, my analogies do work. I'm not trying to claim that being deaf is
like being stoned except to say that on the outside (i.e. those NOT
personally affected), these states of being are impossible to comprehend
completely.
My point is that judging artists to have 'wasted' their talent or 'misused'
their gifts is a mistake. Firstly, some may have benefitted from their fate
(whether chosen or not) in ways you cannot understand and, secondly,
pretending to understand such conditions, THEN judging others on this is
irresponsible.
I'm not talking about artists being satisfied with their production or how
artists feel about their interactions with the world, I'm talking about not
judging people (artists and everyone else) by or because of their living
conditions.
Shame on you for not seeing that.
---brian
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-----Original Message-----
From: James R McPherson [mailto:andregurov@juno.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 5:18 PM
To: idm@hyperreal.org
Subject: [idm] art, Miles, drugs + gratuitious Hk imitation
Need I use the example of none other an artist than John Coltrane, who
was kicked out of Miles' classic quintet b/c of a serious heroin
addiction. I believe the central point is that people with serious
problems create great art in spite of addiction, not because of it. You
mention musicians with whom YOU have no first hand experience. Has Brian
Eno spoken with YOU about how fantastic his production work with Laraaji
was? And how much better it was when he passed out in the engineering
chair? Or did Hendrix tell how fantastic the music in his head was while
in a 16 hour rush? In a 16 hour crash? I seriously doubt any artist
will be gratified with his production, whether straight or stoned. This
drive is what continues to make them vital. The sides of this issue can
be debated ad nauseum by people of OUR uninformed ilk. But so
charismatic and plainly wrong an example as Beethoven's deaf work holds
false when measured up to Konitz's quite personal observation.
There is a world of difference between being addled and being deaf, and
in being epileptic and smoked out. Shame on you for not knowing and
noting the difference. Try keeping your analogies on the same level of
logic.
Yes, some IDM records sound quite fantastic while under the influence
(well, when I can manage to get them on the turntable!). I just hope the
people who make these (and any others I own) don't think they can drive
as well under the influence as they can write music to/with/under it.
Back on topic: Lackluster's _Container_ is wonderful. Or, in Hk!'s
words, "I dig it, fellas & Cats!" Hmm, we don't know what we got 'til
it's gone ; ) Without Kelly, I feel my Nuron addiction going into
withdrawal.
J
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>This is plainly not true. Beethoven was deaf when he wrote his 9th
>Symphony...does this mean we have to be deaf for it to sound as good?
>Does
>the 9th Symphony then sound "terrible" to those of us that can hear?
>I mean no offense here, but it seems startling to me that you (and
>millions
>of other people) continue to argue against the use of substances with
>ZERO
>first-hand experience.
>****************
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