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2000-09-13 16:25William Samuels Re: [idm] the future of "idm"
├─ 2000-09-13 16:37Josh Davison Re: [idm] the future of "idm"
└─ 2000-09-13 18:21Brian MacDonald [idm] liveidm
2000-09-13 20:59jimg [idm] Re: liveidm
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2000-09-13 16:25William Samuels--- rebecca263 <rebecca263@netzero.net> wrote: > saw lexaunculpt recently, and i don't kno
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--- rebecca263 <rebecca263@netzero.net> wrote:
quoted 3 lines saw lexaunculpt recently, and i don't know what he's> saw lexaunculpt recently, and i don't know what he's > been doing elsewhere, but he sure isn't copying > autechre in performance!
In Performance??? You mean the highly riveting mouse clicking between Lexaunculpt & Autechre are different?
quoted 4 lines (although the boys of autechre are very sweet,> (although the boys of autechre are very sweet, > they're a different stripe altogether!) great live > show, very "microvise" as we're all discussing jazz! > hehheh
Great Live Show?? I didn't think you could really do a whole hell of a lot of "live" improvisation with laptops. At one Lexaunculpt show, Alex had someone else on stage clicking the mouse for him so he could hang in the audience. Sorry to be picky, clicking a mouse doesn't really make for "great live shows" IMHO. Seeing someone using gear is a hell of a lot more interesting. However, if the music is vastly different from the originals that would be nice hearing (not watching). When I saw QBurns Abstract Message he was doing a hell of a lot more then clicking a mouse. He had a turntable and sampled stuff + manipulated it, played some keyboards, and looked like he was having fun up there. Now I didn't care for the music he was making, but it was entertaining to watching him. This post reflects the "live aspect", NOT the music. I like both Autechre & Lexaunculpt work. In a similar discussion I had with a friend, he said he didn't want to pay to see djs anymore. That he prefered seeing "live". Well if "live" means watching someone click a mouse, I'll take a dj over that anyday! ===== SWOPE TRANSMISSIONS - Listen on KUCI.org every FRIDAY Evening 6-9pm (Pacific) http://home.earthlink.net/~efrans/swope-transmissions __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-09-13 16:37Josh DavisonOn Wed, 13 Sep 2000, William Samuels wrote: > Great Live Show?? I didn't think you could r
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Wed, 13 Sep 2000 11:37:09 -0500 (CDT)
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On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, William Samuels wrote:
quoted 5 lines Great Live Show?? I didn't think you could really do a> Great Live Show?? I didn't think you could really do a > whole hell of a lot of "live" improvisation with > laptops. At one Lexaunculpt show, Alex had someone > else on stage clicking the mouse for him so he could > hang in the audience.
maybe it sounded good? some people go to shows to listen to the music rather than for trainspotting (not me, mind you...) when i saw lexaunculpt, he sat far offstage in a booth with his powerbook while most of the audience sat in front of the stage thinking that the guys running the video system were the musicians. i do agree though, it is more interesting to see the music actually being "created" before your eyes rather than "played back" from a soundfile (which is what alex did when i saw him play)... but i think that the majority of people going to shows arent' going to be able to tell the difference between somebody playing back soundfiles or tweaking knobs on a mixer/synth ... jsoh --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-09-13 18:21Brian MacDonaldThe thing about laptop music in a live context is that usually the "success" of a performa
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The thing about laptop music in a live context is that usually the "success" of a performance has far more to do with the venue, setting, and crowd than it does the actual performance. I guess it's a bit of a John Cage thing. Last I time I saw Lexaunculpt live was at this Chinese restaurant/bar in Costa Mesa called The Bamboo Terrace opening up for Mixmaster Morris. Sure, Alex did his thing... sitting in front of his laptop, mildly moving his head, looking like he was doing homework, etc. etc. The best part of the show were the drunken looneyheads that were left over from before the "doors opening" that were going "What the fuck is THIS guy doing? These guys really like this stuff?". The culture clash was pretty entertaining. ======================================================================= Brian MacDonald <brianm@kuci.org> KUCI 88.9 fM in Irvine, CA -- Orange County "Zee Robot attacked zee computer -- in zee outer space...!" ======================================================================= --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-09-13 20:59jimgFrom: Brian MacDonald <brianm@kuci.org> >>Sure, Alex did his thing... sitting in front of
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quoted 1 line Sure, Alex did his thing... sitting in front of his laptop, mildly moving>>Sure, Alex did his thing... sitting in front of his laptop, mildly moving
his head, looking like he was doing homework, etc. etc. << This is one reason why I will -never- do live music with a laptop (the other being I don't own one). -JimG <skoop@slackers.net> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org