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I want to respectfully correct one aspect of this. I've got a friend who works at Bernie Grundman Mastering and we've discussed the process of cutting vinyl at length. He says the test pressings of a record are the absolute first copies to come off the lathe and therefore will sound better than the rest of the copies because the master disc will wear out after about 200 to 300 copies at which point they've got to get another copy from the acetate. My point being, the test pressings will sound superior to most of the other copies (commercially available or promos) which may explain why my 3 12" set of Meat Beat's Original Fire has an overwhelming amount of distortion on it. End of line. Brian.

quoted 8 lines As for why they are "special", that's a harder question to answer. I

> >As for why they are "special", that's a harder question to answer. I >mean, if something is a test pressing, then that literally means that this >pressing could have an inferior sound to the cheaper, subsequent, more >attractive official release to follow. Then again, sometimes the official >release never comes out.. therefore rendering the test pressing or promo >items as the *only* way to get a first generation copy of a hot track. >

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On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, brian albers wrote:

quoted 12 lines I want to respectfully correct one aspect of this.

> I want to respectfully correct one aspect of this. > > I've got a friend who works at Bernie Grundman Mastering and we've discussed > the process of cutting vinyl at length. He says the test pressings of a > record are the absolute first copies to come off the lathe and therefore > will sound better than the rest of the copies because the master disc will > wear out after about 200 to 300 copies at which point they've got to get > another copy from the acetate. > > My point being, the test pressings will sound superior to most of the other > copies (commercially available or promos) which may explain why my 3 12" set > of Meat Beat's Original Fire has an overwhelming amount of distortion on it.

Really. Well, hey, I learn something everyday. I've heard that successful test pressings certainly have less of a chance of introducing skips than later pressings... but then again, I guess every record pressing plant is different in that regard. Thanks, Brian, for the correction. ======================================================================= Brian MacDonald <brianm@kuci.org> KUCI 88.9 fM in Irvine, CA -- Orange County ======================================================================= --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

another place to answer vinyl pressing questions is john golden mastering and also http://www.recordtech.com/index.html Supposedly it is the place to get vinyl pressed. I'm sure that you could specify a lower amount of pressings per stamper (mother) but it will just mean you have to spend more money making stampers (mothers). Also your copy of original fire may just be worn out...or is it new? steve oh, and bernies' is the shit...we send lot's of people up thata way from san diego. ----------

quoted 5 lines From: "brian albers" <brianalbers@hotmail.com>

>From: "brian albers" <brianalbers@hotmail.com> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] vinyl (was promos) >Date: Wed, Aug 2, 2000, 5:03 PM >

quoted 32 lines I want to respectfully correct one aspect of this.

> > I want to respectfully correct one aspect of this. > > I've got a friend who works at Bernie Grundman Mastering and we've discussed > the process of cutting vinyl at length. He says the test pressings of a > record are the absolute first copies to come off the lathe and therefore > will sound better than the rest of the copies because the master disc will > wear out after about 200 to 300 copies at which point they've got to get > another copy from the acetate. > > My point being, the test pressings will sound superior to most of the other > copies (commercially available or promos) which may explain why my 3 12" set > of Meat Beat's Original Fire has an overwhelming amount of distortion on it. > > End of line. Brian. >> >>As for why they are "special", that's a harder question to answer. I >>mean, if something is a test pressing, then that literally means that this >>pressing could have an inferior sound to the cheaper, subsequent, more >>attractive official release to follow. Then again, sometimes the official >>release never comes out.. therefore rendering the test pressing or promo >>items as the *only* way to get a first generation copy of a hot track. >> > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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Another addition to the "why white labels are neat" thread: Trainspotters hate you. Play a white label, sounds real nice, lots of kids run up wantin to see who it is, they see a white label, they sigh and walk away. helps add to the elitism. So not only do you have a track before any other dj on your block, but you are cutting down the chances someone else is gonna get it. of course, I don't wholly agree thats a wonderful way to be, just that its how a lot of people are. micah --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Hell, one could just cut a 5" diameter piece of plain color felt to cover up any vinyl label on a record he/she spins.... Of course, that definitely loses such a DJ a lot of friends -- especially on the musician side of things. ======================================================================= Brian MacDonald <brianm@kuci.org> KUCI 88.9 fM in Irvine, CA -- Orange County ======================================================================= On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Topping, Micah (Mastech) wrote:

quoted 14 lines Another addition to the "why white labels are neat" thread:

> Another addition to the "why white labels are neat" thread: > > Trainspotters hate you. Play a white label, sounds real nice, lots of kids > run up wantin to see who it is, they see a white label, they sigh and walk > away. > helps add to the elitism. So not only do you have a track before any other > dj on your > block, but you are cutting down the chances someone else is gonna get it. > of course, I don't wholly agree thats a wonderful way to be, just that its > how a lot > of people are. > > > micah

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there was a dj a few years back who covered all his labels with cutouts and then just numbered them all...so people would go look to see what he was playing and come back saying "Oh, it's number 53" ----------

quoted 5 lines From: Brian MacDonald <brianm@kuci.org>

>From: Brian MacDonald <brianm@kuci.org> >To: "'idm@hyperreal.org'" <idm@hyperreal.org> >Subject: RE: [idm] vinyl (was promos) >Date: Thu, Aug 3, 2000, 8:58 AM >

quoted 35 lines Hell, one could just cut a 5" diameter piece of plain color felt to cover

> > Hell, one could just cut a 5" diameter piece of plain color felt to cover > up any vinyl label on a record he/she spins.... Of course, that definitely > loses such a DJ a lot of friends -- especially on the musician side of > things. > > ======================================================================= > Brian MacDonald <brianm@kuci.org> > KUCI 88.9 fM in Irvine, CA -- Orange County > ======================================================================= > > > > On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Topping, Micah (Mastech) wrote: >> Another addition to the "why white labels are neat" thread: >> >> Trainspotters hate you. Play a white label, sounds real nice, lots of kids >> run up wantin to see who it is, they see a white label, they sigh and walk >> away. >> helps add to the elitism. So not only do you have a track before any other >> dj on your >> block, but you are cutting down the chances someone else is gonna get it. >> of course, I don't wholly agree thats a wonderful way to be, just that its >> how a lot >> of people are. >> >> >> micah > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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