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Virtual State is definitively a killer, but while I like enormously Number of Magic when it came out, I now find it pretty old fashioned... RH Kirk's problem is that he's always in touch with the flavor of the day, but he's rarely been influential since the early 90's... The sounds he uses are usualy very good when the records come out, but very quickly, the magic fades... I'd say that apart Virtual State, you should try the Sandoz album on Touch, Cabaret Voltaire's Plasticity, and Alphaphone stuff (listen before buying though...) Don't take me wrong : If you listen to the pre 90's stuff, nothing is more influential than CV on what we nowadays call IDM I really believe that without RH Kirk, LFO, Ae, Aphex and their likes would sound different than what they do... Try to find the "8 crepuscule tracks" compilation on Les Disques du Crépuscule" - One of my top ten IDM records - but don't bother the pre 80's stuff : Very interesting and important for the growth of electronic music, but in the same way Throbbing Gristle was... Sounds probably too abrasive for our year 2000 ears =) If you need any more recomandation on RH Kirk... just email me back If you weren't aware of that kind of old stuff, try Nurse With Wound, SPK, CTI, Monte Cazaza, Coil... Cheers Cicerobuck

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>From: "n:h" <nate@toshoklabs.com> >To: a_tech <alexio@javasoft.spb.ru> >CC: >Subject: Re: [idm] Richard H Kirk >Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:19:41 -0400 (EDT) > > >sorry for the late response, but IMHO everyone should have some RHK >material in their collection. Quite honestly he is one of the forefathers >of contemporary electronic music, although reclusiveness (not sure that's >a word) is one of his specialties, so he keeps a mad low profile. Anyway >the quick and dirty story is that he was the main musical force behind the >seminal industrial band Cabaret Voltaire from the late 70's to the early >90's, during which time CV produced an extremely wide range of records in >many styles. He has also released quite a few solo records under various >aliases. > >His output over the past 10 years has been quite prolific with >much of the material falling in the range of IDM; house, dub, ambient are >all heard in his mixes. IF you like his AI 2 track, I recommend his 2 >albums on Warp, 'Virtual State' and 'Number of Magic'. They were released >back to back and are beautiful recordings, if somewhat simplistic (in >terms of sequencing) compared today's lot of IDM stuff. Actually pretty >much all his recordings rely on a somewhat basic sequencing style that >from some reason never seems to tire me, although some may find it so. > >After those 2 RHK records I would track down the Sandoz records (an alias >of his), especially the 2nd record, Intensely Radioactive, regarded by >many to be one of the great early 90's ambient dub albums. > >really I could go on and on about RHK cuz his career has spanned such a >long time and he has released so many records. Check out >http://brainwashed.com/cv/discography/rhk01.htm#RHK for the full >discography... > >hope that helps! > >nate > >On Sat, 22 Jul 2000, a_tech wrote: > > > mornin' > > > > > > Tell me please any info about Richard H Kirk. His track from > > Artificial Intelligence 2 - is excellent! What he makes now? > > > > Pre-thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > np: Richard H Kirk - Reality Net > > 22.07.2000 [2:22] > > mailto:alexio@javasoft.spb.ru > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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op 29-07-2000 16:03 schreef Arthur G. Scratch op cicerobuck1@hotmail.com: I think he is a bit overrated. I like to think "music in classic terms", which simply means timeless music. Allthough i was a big cv-fan uptill say "yashar", i think they lost the plot after that. Even these "body and Soul", "Gasoline" etc... so called idm-prototypes of records sounded at that time allready dated. what Richard did with "virtual State" etc... wasn't so exceptional. They were good records but listening to it today doesn't really deserve the term "legend" or whatever. It's a bit the same as saying Neil young is a guitarheroe... Pure mathematics... Making 3 very good records out of 45685 releases doesn't make you a legend. Respect is due though, because he did have his importance but like many of his generation, been overtaken by youngsters willing to cross borders, which he did uptill say 1982.

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> Virtual State is definitively a killer, but while I like enormously Number > of Magic when it came out, I now find it pretty old fashioned... > RH Kirk's problem is that he's always in touch with the flavor of the day, > but he's rarely been influential since the early 90's... The sounds he uses > are usualy very good when the records come out, but very quickly, the magic > fades... > I'd say that apart Virtual State, you should try the Sandoz album on Touch, > Cabaret Voltaire's Plasticity, and Alphaphone stuff (listen before buying > though...) > > Don't take me wrong : If you listen to the pre 90's stuff, nothing is more > influential than CV on what we nowadays call IDM > I really believe that without RH Kirk, LFO, Ae, Aphex and their likes would > sound different than what they do... > > Try to find the "8 crepuscule tracks" compilation on Les Disques du > Crépuscule" - One of my top ten IDM records - but don't bother the pre 80's > stuff : Very interesting and important for the growth of electronic music, > but in the same way Throbbing Gristle was... Sounds probably too abrasive > for our year 2000 ears =) > > If you need any more recomandation on RH Kirk... just email me back > If you weren't aware of that kind of old stuff, try Nurse With Wound, SPK, > CTI, Monte Cazaza, Coil... > > Cheers > Cicerobuck > > >> From: "n:h" <nate@toshoklabs.com> >> To: a_tech <alexio@javasoft.spb.ru> >> CC: >Subject: Re: [idm] Richard H Kirk >> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:19:41 -0400 (EDT) >> >> >> sorry for the late response, but IMHO everyone should have some RHK >> material in their collection. Quite honestly he is one of the forefathers >> of contemporary electronic music, although reclusiveness (not sure that's >> a word) is one of his specialties, so he keeps a mad low profile. Anyway >> the quick and dirty story is that he was the main musical force behind the >> seminal industrial band Cabaret Voltaire from the late 70's to the early >> 90's, during which time CV produced an extremely wide range of records in >> many styles. He has also released quite a few solo records under various >> aliases. >> >> His output over the past 10 years has been quite prolific with >> much of the material falling in the range of IDM; house, dub, ambient are >> all heard in his mixes. IF you like his AI 2 track, I recommend his 2 >> albums on Warp, 'Virtual State' and 'Number of Magic'. They were released >> back to back and are beautiful recordings, if somewhat simplistic (in >> terms of sequencing) compared today's lot of IDM stuff. Actually pretty >> much all his recordings rely on a somewhat basic sequencing style that >> from some reason never seems to tire me, although some may find it so. >> >> After those 2 RHK records I would track down the Sandoz records (an alias >> of his), especially the 2nd record, Intensely Radioactive, regarded by >> many to be one of the great early 90's ambient dub albums. >> >> really I could go on and on about RHK cuz his career has spanned such a >> long time and he has released so many records. Check out >> http://brainwashed.com/cv/discography/rhk01.htm#RHK for the full >> discography... >> >> hope that helps! >> >> nate >> >> On Sat, 22 Jul 2000, a_tech wrote: >> >>> mornin' >>> >>> >>> Tell me please any info about Richard H Kirk. His track from >>> Artificial Intelligence 2 - is excellent! What he makes now? >>> >>> Pre-thanks. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> np: Richard H Kirk - Reality Net >>> 22.07.2000 [2:22] >>> mailto:alexio@javasoft.spb.ru >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >>> >>> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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