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2000-07-16 06:32MilkAlive@aol.comIn a message dated 7/15/00 11:11:41 PM, Inputcodetrnsfus@aol.com writes: << I am sorry, ye
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In a message dated 7/15/00 11:11:41 PM, Inputcodetrnsfus@aol.com writes: << I am sorry, yes, I liked the soccergirl EP, his shit with Lexaunculpt...but even that is just good idm, not the real good stuff. Then he does stuff like "GQ on the EQ" which sounds like pins and static ripping my eardrums apart. >> Good god man ! what the hell is wrong with you? GQ is a wonderfully subtle record ! If it's ripping yr eardrums apart then yr just playing it too loud ! Jeez, even merzbow played quietly would be non-painful. Have any of you ever considered that kid is getting across because he simply does appeal to real world actual non- idm snob MUSIC fans? Lex is pure autechre/MAS/schematic worship and nothing more, designed to get you fan boys (and i do mean boys ONLY) slobbering. To a non idm geek, his stuff sounds as exciting as a saltine cracker. Forget all of your lame theories as to kid's noteriety, he's simply the man . He cares not about your one dimensional idm world, yet can come in and conquer it at will. Suffer! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-07-16 09:46Adam PiontekOn Sun, 16 Jul 2000 02:32:37 EDT, MilkAlive@aol.com wrote: >ever considered that kid is ge
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On Sun, 16 Jul 2000 02:32:37 EDT, MilkAlive@aol.com wrote:
quoted 2 lines ever considered that kid is getting across>ever considered that kid is getting across >because he simply does appeal to real world actual non- idm snob MUSIC fans?
I find generally that people who say things like "music fans" also say things like "people who like real music" and "people who really love music" ... generally the implication tends to be that there are a lot of people out there who buy music but don't love it. i tend to buy into this notion as well. but as much as your cross-genre "i'm a real MUSIC fan" wanking has something going for it, you're also being as snobby as "idm geeks" tend to be. face it, the kid isn't your average autechre-worshipper, but he does have ties to the uber-punk world and hard-techno. he's identifying more with an attitude than a genre, so he can cross 'genres' where they share that attitude. hence his recent remixes of hip-hop et. al. he's remixing the attitude, not the genre.
quoted 1 line Lex is pure autechre/MAS/schematic worship and nothing more, designed to get>Lex is pure autechre/MAS/schematic worship and nothing more, designed to get
actually, i think you mean 'warp/skam/mas' worship ... autechre is an artist, so they don't fit in with the other two, and schematic is too new; they're a worshipper still, too. and that was a joke; self-mockery. please recognize it as such.
quoted 1 line you fan boys (and i do mean boys ONLY) slobbering. To a non>you fan boys (and i do mean boys ONLY) slobbering. To a non
the gender does tend to be a bit lop-sided, doesn't it? but I think saying 'only' and then capitalizing it is a little harsh...
quoted 1 line idm geek, his stuff sounds as exciting as a saltine cracker.>idm geek, his stuff sounds as exciting as a saltine cracker.
does it really? play it to your average country lover or even your average classic-rock lover and then tell me everyone who isn't an idm geek loves kid-606.
quoted 3 lines Forget all of your lame theories as to kid's noteriety, he's simply the man .>Forget all of your lame theories as to kid's noteriety, he's simply the man . >He cares not about your >one dimensional idm world, yet can come in and conquer it at will. Suffer!
it does tend to be one-dimenshional, but not to everyone... and don't tell me you think everything the kid's done is so excellent. i don't even think everything aphex has done is good, and i love him. -adam -- Adam Piontek [http://www.tcinternet.net/users/damek/] ICQ: 3456339 [damek@earthling.net] ... "We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-07-16 19:02are you there god? it's me margaretOn Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Adam Piontek wrote (in reply to MilkAlive's post): > >Lex is pure aut
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On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Adam Piontek wrote (in reply to MilkAlive's post):
quoted 6 lines Lex is pure autechre/MAS/schematic worship and nothing more, designed to get> >Lex is pure autechre/MAS/schematic worship and nothing more, designed to get > > actually, i think you mean 'warp/skam/mas' worship ... autechre is an > artist, so they don't fit in with the other two, and schematic is too > new; they're a worshipper still, too. and that was a joke; > self-mockery. please recognize it as such.
hello. while i disagree with brad that lexaunculpt is pure "autechre/MAS/schematic" i do have to jump in here and correct a little bit of the way adam would like us to "recognize as such". lex is FOR SURE influenced by the schematic sound. and personally think the schematic stuff had more of an influence on his current style than any other band/label has. lexaunculpt is damn good. one of my faves! but that most certainly doesnt mean he is immune from being influenced by a newer label -- he is, afterall, in idm years, only a few years old. tis all. chris. "bodily fluids are a wonderful way to get to know someone." _we are all lost --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-07-16 06:55EggyToast> Good god man ! what the hell is wrong with you? GQ is a wonderfully subtle > record ! If
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quoted 2 lines Good god man ! what the hell is wrong with you? GQ is a wonderfully subtle> Good god man ! what the hell is wrong with you? GQ is a wonderfully subtle > record ! If it's ripping yr eardrums apart then yr just playing it too
loud !
quoted 3 lines Jeez, even merzbow played quietly would be non-painful. Have any of you> Jeez, even merzbow played quietly would be non-painful. Have any of you > ever considered that kid is getting across > because he simply does appeal to real world actual non- idm snob MUSIC
fans?
quoted 1 line Lex is pure autechre/MAS/schematic worship and nothing more, designed to> Lex is pure autechre/MAS/schematic worship and nothing more, designed to
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quoted 2 lines you fan boys (and i do mean boys ONLY) slobbering. To a non> you fan boys (and i do mean boys ONLY) slobbering. To a non > idm geek, his stuff sounds as exciting as a saltine cracker.
yeah this is one of the things i was trying to get at before, but probably botched horribly. in my opinion, kid606's music is more diverse as a whole; he's done a lot of different things. and as the one guy said, he liked "soccergirl", but didn't like GQ. so there's something in there that you like. obviously if all of his stuff was like GQ or all of it was like "soccergirl", he would sound less diverse, and that's probably why he gets some popularity. the "problem" with lex, also as stated above, is that it's hit/miss. if you don't like it, you won't like lex. if you DO like it, then you'll absolutely love it. whereas one kid606 album might not bloat your goat, but another one might get your goat (*wink wink* which goes along with taht whole "release of male energy" schtick *nudge nudge*). i'm not saying that one is better than the other, but a good way to make more discussion and publicity for yourself is to a) be prolific, and b) be diverse. i'm convinced that the reason people like autechre so much is because all of their albums *do* sound different (very diverse, even within the individual albums (to a point)), but there is a similarity among them too (which is the trick, of course ;) ). note that this is not a comparison of ae to kid606. cheers, -derek --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-07-16 09:49Adam PiontekOn Sun, 16 Jul 2000 01:55:52 -0500, EggyToast wrote: >i'm not saying that one is better th
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On Sun, 16 Jul 2000 01:55:52 -0500, EggyToast wrote:
quoted 4 lines i'm not saying that one is better than the other, but a good way to make>i'm not saying that one is better than the other, but a good way to make >more discussion and publicity for yourself is to a) be prolific, and b) be >diverse. i'm convinced that the reason people like autechre so much is >because all of their albums *do* sound different (very diverse, even within
excellent point; wish i'd thought of it :) aphex fits that, too... diverse and prolific. at least he used to be. maybe this should be a new thread for the time-wasters. what other artists are both diverse and prolific? a lot of new ones aren't. -adam -- Adam Piontek [http://www.tcinternet.net/users/damek/] ICQ: 3456339 [damek@earthling.net] ... "Bring out the Holy Hand Grenade!" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-07-16 19:13are you there god? it's me margaretOn Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Adam Piontek wrote: > maybe this should be a new thread for the time-
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On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Adam Piontek wrote:
quoted 3 lines maybe this should be a new thread for the time-wasters. what other> maybe this should be a new thread for the time-wasters. what other > artists are both diverse and prolific? a lot of new ones aren't. > -adam
perhaps you should check out the numerous releases involving brad laner, the fellow you have been arguing with :) coil are pretty prolific. nurse with wound. mouse on mars. potuznik, bauer, rehberg, fennesz + the rest of the mego cast & crew. mika vainio/pan_sonic. swans (oops, not idm. sorry, cant help myself). muslimgauze. v/vm. jimmy swaggert. christoph fringeli perhaps? ethyl barrett. ryuchi sakamoto. system seven/steve hillage. seefeel releated peeps. einsturzende neubauten. plastikman. thomas brinkmann. not breathing. .... wee! chris. "bodily fluids are a wonderful way to get to know someone." _we are all lost --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-07-16 21:25Adam PiontekOn Sun, 16 Jul 2000 12:13:13 -0700 (PDT), are you there god? it's me margaret wrote: >On S
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On Sun, 16 Jul 2000 12:13:13 -0700 (PDT), are you there god? it's me margaret wrote:
quoted 7 lines On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Adam Piontek wrote:>On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Adam Piontek wrote: >> maybe this should be a new thread for the time-wasters. what other >> artists are both diverse and prolific? a lot of new ones aren't. >> -adam > >perhaps you should check out the numerous releases involving brad laner, >the fellow you have been arguing with :)
i was arguing? i thought i was joking. yeah, i'm pretty sure i was joking since i only argue about REAL idm music (like autechre), not this "ooh, i pushed a button - look at the pretty wave i made" crap. -adam --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org ps - that was another dumb joke for the humor-challenged... -- Adam Piontek [http://www.tcinternet.net/users/damek/] ICQ: 3456339 [damek@earthling.net] ... The news is my hooker, and the truth is her pimp! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-07-16 20:49Drusca> lex is FOR SURE influenced by the schematic sound. and personally think > the schematic
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quoted 3 lines lex is FOR SURE influenced by the schematic sound. and personally think> lex is FOR SURE influenced by the schematic sound. and personally think > the schematic stuff had more of an influence on his current style than any other > band/label has.
Exactly. His sound is pretty much a mix of all the different Schematic artists: PBO's hip-hop beats and Richie Devine's sound design/programming, etc. mixed with some 80's new wave/synth-pop type melodics and of course that ubiquitous Simon & Garfunkel influence.
quoted 1 line lexaunculpt is damn good.> lexaunculpt is damn good.
I think his programming is pretty prodigious, but his actual music is nothing special. In the end he just makes me think of Autechre and how everyone who tries to emulate their sound pales in comparison (ideas/sound design/control over their tools/etc.). I think he might do some amazing work in the future as he matures though. Andrei --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-07-18 04:56Gonzi 'Fresh' Merchan> Good god man ! what the hell is wrong with you? GQ is a wonderfully subtle > record ! If
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quoted 2 lines Good god man ! what the hell is wrong with you? GQ is a wonderfully subtle> Good god man ! what the hell is wrong with you? GQ is a wonderfully subtle > record ! If it's ripping yr eardrums apart then yr just playing it too
loud !
quoted 3 lines Jeez, even merzbow played quietly would be non-painful. Have any of you> Jeez, even merzbow played quietly would be non-painful. Have any of you > ever considered that kid is getting across > because he simply does appeal to real world actual non- idm snob MUSIC
fans?
quoted 1 line Lex is pure autechre/MAS/schematic worship and nothing more, designed to> Lex is pure autechre/MAS/schematic worship and nothing more, designed to
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quoted 2 lines you fan boys (and i do mean boys ONLY) slobbering. To a non> you fan boys (and i do mean boys ONLY) slobbering. To a non > idm geek, his stuff sounds as exciting as a saltine cracker.
Wow, sweet backstabbing man. Aren't you the guy who was only yesterday trying to get us to listen to your tracks on mp3.com by boasting about a collaboration with lex? I see you made 5 bux, kudos. Don't spend it all in one place ok? And aren't you the same guy who sweating him just a few months ago to figure out his techniques? Yesterday he was a genius and today he's exciting as a saltine cracker and appeals only to fanboys. So what does this make you Brad? I guess those of us who saw your shows together can draw our own conclusions.
quoted 1 line Forget all of your lame theories as to kid's noteriety, he's simply the> Forget all of your lame theories as to kid's noteriety, he's simply the
man .
quoted 2 lines He cares not about your> He cares not about your > one dimensional idm world, yet can come in and conquer it at will. Suffer!
Hah, maybe if Kid spent as much time on the actual music as he does calling up magazines/press/and whoever else he can annoy to further pimp his releases some of us might actually like it. Then again, maybe not.You 2 really deserve eachother. I can see how you could convince yourselves after hours of conversation in the mutual appreciation society you've created that the reason the majority of IDM fans don't like kids music is because we are all 'snobs.' Haheheh. Couldn't possibly be that the majority of press that writes the endless nonsensical reviews and press kid generates doesn't know their asshole from their elbow unlike the listmembers who listen to electronic music 24/7, could it?? You can delude yourselves into thinking whatever you want about Alex's music but at the end of the day some of us do know the real score don't we? Gnz. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-07-18 06:23MilkAlive@aol.comIn a message dated 7/17/00 10:04:16 PM, fresh@home.com writes: << Wow, sweet backstabbing
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In a message dated 7/17/00 10:04:16 PM, fresh@home.com writes: << Wow, sweet backstabbing man. Aren't you the guy who was only yesterday trying to get us to listen to your tracks on mp3.com by boasting about a collaboration with lex? I see you made 5 bux, kudos. Don't spend it all in one place ok? And aren't you the same guy who sweating him just a few months ago to figure out his techniques? Yesterday he was a genius and today he's exciting as a saltine cracker and appeals only to fanboys. So what does this make you Brad? I guess those of us who saw your shows together can draw our own conclusions. >> Just the facts, ma'am. My mp3 site is strictly for fun. Alex and i did a couple of tracks together. i put up stuff at mp3.com that I don't take too seriously, which includes what i did w/ him. I make PLENTY of money doing other things with music that has nothing to do with alex or kid or mp3.com. It would be pathetic if i actually thought i could make money with that stuff.. As a musician i try to learn as much as i can from everybody that i collaborate with, even if it's how NOT to do things. I learnt quite a bit from alex, and the same can probably be said for him. Our shows together were total bullshit because the guy doesn't understand the idea of live improvisation. It could only be crap if he's playing his fully produced and mixed songs ( whilst pretending to "do" things) and i'm trying to add something on top.. an impossible way of doing a good show..alex is not meant to do collaborations and that's why it was dogshit, he doesn't need anybody adding anything to what he does.
quoted 1 line Hah, maybe if Kid spent as much time on the actual music as he does calling>>>Hah, maybe if Kid spent as much time on the actual music as he does calling
quoted 1 line up magazines/press/and whoever else he can annoy to further pimp his>>>up magazines/press/and whoever else he can annoy to further pimp his
quoted 1 line releases some of us might actually like it. Then again, maybe not.You 2>>>releases some of us might actually like it. Then again, maybe not.You 2
quoted 1 line really deserve eachother. I can see how you could convince yourselves after>>>really deserve eachother. I can see how you could convince yourselves after
quoted 1 line hours of conversation in the mutual appreciation society you've created>>>hours of conversation in the mutual appreciation society you've created
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quoted 1 line the reason the majority of IDM fans don't like kids music is because we are>>>the reason the majority of IDM fans don't like kids music is because we are
quoted 1 line all 'snobs.' Haheheh. Couldn't possibly be that the majority of press that>>>all 'snobs.' Haheheh. Couldn't possibly be that the majority of press that
quoted 1 line writes the endless nonsensical reviews and press kid generates doesn't know>>>writes the endless nonsensical reviews and press kid generates doesn't know
quoted 1 line their asshole from their elbow unlike the listmembers who listen to>>>their asshole from their elbow unlike the listmembers who listen to
quoted 1 line electronic music 24/7, could it??>>>electronic music 24/7, could it??
sour grapes, gonzi. actually kid has press agents to pimp his music for him ( leaving him plenty of time for music) and they in turn have an easy job of it beacuse he genuinely is an interesting subject for journalists, being the multi-faceted, irreverant, industrious and talented kid that he is and your pal isn't. Brad --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-07-18 07:01Gonzi 'Fresh' Merchan> Our shows together were > total bullshit because the guy doesn't understand the idea of
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quoted 3 lines Our shows together were> Our shows together were > total bullshit because the guy doesn't understand the idea of live > improvisation. It could only be crap if he's playing his fully produced
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quoted 2 lines mixed songs ( whilst pretending to "do" things) and i'm trying to add> mixed songs ( whilst pretending to "do" things) and i'm trying to add > something on top.. an impossible way of doing a good show..
Hmmm or was it that he heard your 'idea' of live improvisation and did the best he could to humor you while maintaining some level of dignity :)
quoted 2 lines I learnt quite a bit> I learnt quite a bit > from alex, and the same can probably be said for him.
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quoted 1 line sour grapes, gonzi. actually kid has press agents to pimp his music for> sour grapes, gonzi. actually kid has press agents to pimp his music for
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quoted 1 line leaving him plenty of time for music) and they in turn have an easy job of> leaving him plenty of time for music) and they in turn have an easy job of
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quoted 2 lines beacuse he genuinely is an interesting subject for journalists, being the> beacuse he genuinely is an interesting subject for journalists, being the > multi-faceted, irreverant, industrious and talented kid that he is and
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quoted 1 line pal isn't.> pal isn't.
and this don't exactly gel do they? learned quite a bit from the talentless did you? Why not be honest Brad and admit your true motivations for posting any of this, which are entirely personal. If Alex (and I) learned anything from you and your buddy 606 it's how not to treat your friends, especially after how generous Alex was in sharing his knowledge and talent with both of you. If Kid has arranged some press agents good for him, now maybe he can get off the phone for once and arrange to make some decent music that doesn't use all the same shit alex showed him 2 years ago. Propaganda only gets you so far, some of us have actually listened to the records. I realize this is getting a bit personal for general list consumption so I'll stop now, but it's hard to keep quiet when this is sort mudslinging is leveled at a friend. gnz. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-07-18 07:35are you there god? it's me margareti am in a posting mood tonight (hell if i know why) so i am going to jump in here (you may
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i am in a posting mood tonight (hell if i know why) so i am going to jump in here (you may as well delete now:!) the socal scene is way too fucking full of drama - at all angles! for some reason we live in an area with some of THE most talented people possible: lexaunculpt, kid606 (am i allowed to put those 2 names next to eachother these days?:), brad laner, most of the plug research cast and crew (low res, phthalocyanine, mannequin lung, etc), brian lustmord, l'usine, bassland and so many many many other people (like EVERY band from the area that has played up at KUCI) -- yet you put *some* of these people together in a small room and they fight like mad! its like the idm version of spartacus or something. (note, i am not claiming that all these peeps are like this, just that some of them clash with one-another personality wise). it just gets rather frustrating to see artists that i admire quite a bit and have been following since what might be day 1 for a lot of them (i have not left my bedroom for years, okay??) fight and bicker and shit like that. the worst part is that there is, all things considered, not much in terms of a scene here -- yet rather than dropping their bs, people fight like mad. i hope other regions of the world are not QUITE this bad! on live collaborations/jams: live jams between skilled artists are wonderful! i think some of my fave moments in viewing shows come from watching electronic artists just drop their guard and jam away. this is one of the reasons i enjoy seeing acts like bassland so much. sometimes they reach points of absolute amazement -- and other times, when "journeying" (for lack of a better word), they end up hitting some low points. its the nature of live improv. personally i am willing to put up with the shakey moments to hear the moments of pure chemistry. when brad (electric co./milkalive) and alex/lexaunculpt played live togther, i very much enjoyed it for what it was. it most certainly was not perfect, but it was simply a fun live moment (from an audience perspective). i feel very strongly, however, that they each make better music on their own, as they have drastically differing approaches to music (as brad, alex, gonzi, brock, etc have all stated in less the kind ways :). when alex/lexaunculpt and michael/kid606 played together -- well, i think it worked a bit better. there really did seem to be some sort of chemistry there (imo, again, from my little audience chair). i saw them do a live improv at beyond baraoke (sp?) in LA and it was quite good in that noisey/chaotic sort of way. in fact, as far as i know, that was the first night that the hip-hop/NWA covers surfaced, that later gave way to the new "attitude" 3" cd (or so i am guessing, which is the reason i was bummed not to see the lexaunculpt song on there but understand why 2 people at odds would not want to put something out together -- again, speculation on my part from the muppet balcony seats). on top of that, kidlex (featuring..guess who?) produced one of the best 23 seconds of music ever! anyway, i guess my point is -- as a fan of the music it would be nice if the personal issues could be set aside so the ideas and music can continue to come out as slick as always! now that i feel like a complete scenester, thanks for the time. chris. On Tue, 18 Jul 2000, Gonzi 'Fresh' Merchan wrote:
quoted 45 lines Our shows together were> > Our shows together were > > total bullshit because the guy doesn't understand the idea of live > > improvisation. It could only be crap if he's playing his fully produced > and > > mixed songs ( whilst pretending to "do" things) and i'm trying to add > > something on top.. an impossible way of doing a good show.. > > Hmmm or was it that he heard your 'idea' of live improvisation and did the > best he could to humor you while maintaining some level of dignity :) > > > I learnt quite a bit > > from alex, and the same can probably be said for him. > > this... > > > sour grapes, gonzi. actually kid has press agents to pimp his music for > him ( > > leaving him plenty of time for music) and they in turn have an easy job of > it > > beacuse he genuinely is an interesting subject for journalists, being the > > multi-faceted, irreverant, industrious and talented kid that he is and > your > > pal isn't. > > and this don't exactly gel do they? learned quite a bit from the talentless > did you? Why not be honest Brad and admit your true motivations for posting > any of this, which are entirely personal. If Alex (and I) learned anything > from you and your buddy 606 it's how not to treat your friends, especially > after how generous Alex was in sharing his knowledge and talent with both of > you. If Kid has arranged some press agents good for him, now maybe he can > get off the phone for once and arrange to make some decent music that > doesn't use all the same shit alex showed him 2 years ago. Propaganda only > gets you so far, some of us have actually listened to the records. > > I realize this is getting a bit personal for general list consumption so > I'll stop now, but it's hard to keep quiet when this is sort mudslinging is > leveled at a friend. > > gnz. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2000-07-18 13:59Rjyan Kidwell> I realize this is getting a bit personal for general list consumption so > I'll stop now
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quoted 2 lines I realize this is getting a bit personal for general list consumption so> I realize this is getting a bit personal for general list consumption so > I'll stop now, but it's hard to keep quiet when this is sort mudslinging
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quoted 1 line leveled at a friend.> leveled at a friend.
i'm surprised no one has taken this opportunity to bring up some relevent issues like... where the hell IS lexaunculpt? i mean, if my memory serves me correctly, both of his 12"s got some "this isn't as nut-bustingly great as you made it out to be, socal" reviews on this list, which were in turn answered by "Well, this isn't even his new stuff! lex's new stuff blows everything away!" both times. when do we get to hear this "new stuff?". i've seen him listed on a pair of compilations recently (one on Pitchcadet, one on Merck) but both of those tracks are from pre-summer of 99... and i havent heard anything about any plans for new releases from him from any camp. is he even making tracks anymore? and likewise, what's up with Orange? is it defunct or something? are the Datathief and D'arcangelo records i think i remember seeing posts about last year still coming out? i'm sure a lot of people on idm-l are curious about these things. -rk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-07-18 14:22Dot Bot>i mean, if my memory serves me correctly, both of his 12"s got some "this >isn't as nut-b
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quoted 4 lines i mean, if my memory serves me correctly, both of his 12"s got some "this>i mean, if my memory serves me correctly, both of his 12"s got some "this >isn't as nut-bustingly great as you made it out to be, socal" reviews on >this list, which were in turn answered by "Well, this isn't even his new >stuff! lex's new stuff blows everything away!" both times.
I thought the Orange 12" that came out last year was one of the five best EPs released in the 99. Wrote a rave review on it. Still love it. Bought 3 copies of it as well because I always play it when I'm jocking and I wouldn't want to be in a situation where it's been played to pieces and I can't get a new copy. Can't really recommend it enough. my two cents /franz --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-07-18 19:03webcast@method.comwe hosted alex for a weekend for our webcast series here at Method. if you are interested
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we hosted alex for a weekend for our webcast series here at Method. if you are interested in some recent live tracks and an interview (as well as other webcasts from other artists) point your browser at: http://www.method.com and hit the "webcast" link. regards. ad
quoted 10 lines i mean, if my memory serves me correctly, both of his 12"s got some "this> >i mean, if my memory serves me correctly, both of his 12"s got some "this >isn't as nut-bustingly great as you made it out to be, socal" reviews on >this list, which were in turn answered by "Well, this isn't even his new >stuff! lex's new stuff blows everything away!" both times. when do we get to >hear this "new stuff?". i've seen him listed on a pair of compilations >recently (one on Pitchcadet, one on Merck) but both of those tracks are from >pre-summer of 99... and i havent heard anything about any plans for new >releases from him from any camp. is he even making tracks anymore? >
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2000-07-19 15:41Josh DavisonI've been listening to this and I gotta say it's quite a nice sounding set from Lex. I gue
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I've been listening to this and I gotta say it's quite a nice sounding set from Lex. I guess I'd have to weigh in on the Lex side of the now infamous Kid606 v.s Lex debate. Speaking of which debate, why are people getting so riled up over this? It's obvious to me that the only similiarity between these two guys is the fact that 1) they are both Americans from Southern California (yech) and 2) they use powermacs to create their music. I think they are attempting to occupy completely different (albeit somewhat overlapping) realms of the aesthetic spectrum. Anyway since my tastes tend toward the more melodic and (ahem) listenable, I'm leaning toward Lexaunculpt... I think Kid606 definitely has his moments though. anyway cheers to lexaunculpt for quite a nice purty set :) -josh -- String Theory : Digital Music for Humans http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi On Tue, 18 Jul 2000 webcast@method.com wrote:
quoted 53 lines we hosted alex for a weekend for our webcast series here at Method.> we hosted alex for a weekend for our webcast series here at Method. > if you are interested in some recent live tracks and an interview (as > well as other webcasts from other artists) point your browser at: > > http://www.method.com and hit the "webcast" link. > > regards. ad > > > > > > > >i mean, if my memory serves me correctly, both of his 12"s got some "this > >isn't as nut-bustingly great as you made it out to be, socal" reviews on > >this list, which were in turn answered by "Well, this isn't even his new > >stuff! lex's new stuff blows everything away!" both times. when do we get to > >hear this "new stuff?". i've seen him listed on a pair of compilations > >recently (one on Pitchcadet, one on Merck) but both of those tracks are from > >pre-summer of 99... and i havent heard anything about any plans for new > >releases from him from any camp. is he even making tracks anymore? > > > -- > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Aaron Day > 415.901.6300 Main > 415.901.6358 Direct > 415.901.6310 Fax > aaron@method.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Method > 512 2nd Street, 4th Floor > San Francisco, CA 94107 > > www.method.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > . > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2000-07-19 17:17kevin@independence.netlex is currently by far my favorite music to listen to. since im fairly new to IDM, i was
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lex is currently by far my favorite music to listen to. since im fairly new to IDM, i was wondering if any one had any recommendations of music that parallel that taste. (you know, the people he `copied') Thanks much kevin oh i also think gq on the eq is great (although harder to dance to). --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-07-19 18:30Josh Davisoncheck out Autechre and anything on Schematic records if you haven't already. personally i
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check out Autechre and anything on Schematic records if you haven't already. personally i think 32nd notes and 64th notes (and their corresponding triplets) should be officially banned along with the Amen break. I like that schematic sound, but damn guys, i can hold down the "Timing Correct" button on my MPC too, but I lay off it cuz y'all are doing enough... josh -- String Theory : Digital Music for Humans http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi On Wed, 19 Jul 2000 kevin@independence.net wrote:
quoted 15 lines lex is currently by far my favorite music to listen to.> > lex is currently by far my favorite music to listen to. > since im fairly new to IDM, i was wondering if any one > had any recommendations of music that parallel that taste. > (you know, the people he `copied') > Thanks much > kevin > oh i also think gq on the eq is great (although harder to dance to). > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2000-07-18 20:26_jena* _i hate to perpetuate this.. but, I think its really pretty rediculous to criticize lexaunc
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i hate to perpetuate this.. but, I think its really pretty rediculous to criticize lexaunculpt for being "pure autechre/MAS/schematic worship".. imo, 606 wears his influences just as prominently. nevertheless, both alex and michael produce significantly different styles of electronic music that will appeal to different tastes. personally, I think both artists are quite fascinating in their own respects.. the subtlety of lexaunculpt, 606's rawness.
quoted 28 lines << I am sorry, yes, I liked the soccergirl EP,> ><< I am sorry, yes, I liked the soccergirl EP, >his shit with Lexaunculpt...but even that is just good idm, not the real >good >stuff. Then he does stuff like "GQ on the EQ" which sounds like pins and >static ripping my eardrums apart. >> > >Good god man ! what the hell is wrong with you? GQ is a wonderfully subtle >record ! If it's ripping yr eardrums apart then yr just playing it too loud >! > Jeez, even merzbow played quietly would be non-painful. Have any of you >ever considered that kid is getting across >because he simply does appeal to real world actual non- idm snob MUSIC >fans? >Lex is pure autechre/MAS/schematic worship and nothing more, designed to >get >you fan boys (and i do mean boys ONLY) slobbering. To a non >idm geek, his stuff sounds as exciting as a saltine cracker. > >Forget all of your lame theories as to kid's noteriety, he's simply the man >. >He cares not about your >one dimensional idm world, yet can come in and conquer it at will. Suffer! > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2000-07-18 21:08Ron Jeremy>From: "_jena* _" <professionalminion@hotmail.com> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [i
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quoted 8 lines From: "_jena* _" <professionalminion@hotmail.com>>From: "_jena* _" <professionalminion@hotmail.com> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] american roll call (kid vs. lex) >Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 13:26:16 PDT > >i hate to perpetuate this.. but, I think its really pretty rediculous to >criticize lexaunculpt for being "pure autechre/MAS/schematic worship".. >imo,
Actually that doesn't seem to far off the mark.
quoted 6 lines 606 wears his influences just as prominently. nevertheless, both alex and>606 wears his influences just as prominently. nevertheless, both alex and >michael produce significantly different styles of electronic music that >will >appeal to different tastes. personally, I think both artists are quite >fascinating in their own respects.. the subtlety of lexaunculpt, 606's >rawness.
You must be fascinated pretty easily. From what I heard of Lex he's got a good sense for melodies. However, it doesn't seem like his style varies up enough. So he is obviously going get slagged as an AE or Schematic 'carbon'. I would like to hear him venturing in several different directions. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-07-18 22:26andrij kopytkoSpeaking of Kid606 and the letters "ex," has anyone heard anything from Rjyan / Cex or any
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Speaking of Kid606 and the letters "ex," has anyone heard anything from Rjyan / Cex or any of the *other* artists releasing things on Tigerbeat6? I'm curious to see if they're all the same (boring) style or what.. I've heard Disc and was none-too-impressed. Seemed to come off as a variation on Oval only even worse (which at the time I didn't think was possible). -- andrij. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-07-18 21:37_jena* _>You must be fascinated pretty easily. isn't this a idm-subscription prerequisite? From wh
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quoted 1 line You must be fascinated pretty easily.>You must be fascinated pretty easily.
isn't this a idm-subscription prerequisite? From what I heard of Lex he's got a good sense for melodies. However, it
quoted 3 lines doesn't seem like his style varies up enough. So he is obviously going get>doesn't seem like his style varies up enough. So he is obviously going get >slagged as an AE or Schematic 'carbon'. I would like to hear him venturing >in several different directions.
I have to strongly disagree. I've heard a great deal of his material, and I really do think his sound design and programming is quite unique. besides, since when has electronic music been about venturing into different directions? ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-07-18 22:02Ron Jeremy>From: "_jena* _" <professionalminion@hotmail.com> > >>You must be fascinated pretty easil
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quoted 5 lines From: "_jena* _" <professionalminion@hotmail.com>>From: "_jena* _" <professionalminion@hotmail.com> > >>You must be fascinated pretty easily. > >isn't this a idm-subscription prerequisite?
True, it does seem like that for many. Not for me.
quoted 2 lines I have to strongly disagree. I've heard a great deal of his material, and I>I have to strongly disagree. I've heard a great deal of his material, and I >really do think his sound design and programming is >quite unique.
Why? It's all be done before. There wasn't anything unique in his programming. I did like some his compositions, especially the opne with the piano in it (the name escapes me).
quoted 3 lines besides,>besides, >since when has electronic music been about venturing into different >directions?
Let's see. Maybe with Kraftwerk...that was certainly venturing into new territory. Juan Atkins in Detroit in 1983, Aphex Twin in 91-92 ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-07-18 22:39MilkAlive@aol.comIn a message dated 7/18/00 2:39:17 PM, professionalminion@hotmail.com writes: << since whe
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2000-07-18 22:51_jena* _this was heavily sarcastic. along with the first comment. > >In a message dated 7/18/00 2:
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this was heavily sarcastic. along with the first comment.
quoted 18 lines In a message dated 7/18/00 2:39:17 PM, professionalminion@hotmail.com> >In a message dated 7/18/00 2:39:17 PM, professionalminion@hotmail.com >writes: > ><< since when has electronic music been about venturing into different >directions? > >> > >wow!, wow! ,wow ! >ladies and gentleman, it's an all time low ! > >wow! > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2000-07-19 03:17rob sallsMainly as it goes, you are all looking like a bunch of twats.there was something like 200
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Mainly as it goes, you are all looking like a bunch of twats.there was something like 200 messages about kid hype and lex.. Then the whole thing of saying that lex is in that ae,mas and schematic camp?? What is schematic but a cheap imitation of ae for america?/ Then mas what for germany?/ I don't see what you people are talking about. The fact is kid hype is nonething but that. Look how much goes in to talk rather than music.... Lex is fine, sure maybe his earlier stuff is very derived from obvious places, But he is new and I am sure that will change.It takes a long time to develop your own unique expression with out being taken by your surroundings interests or influences. Kid on the other hand is like an andy warhol for the 2000s(see how long he will last ). And ps I don't give a shit about my spelling ,so piss off! ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-07-19 04:11Stephen Olsonspelling aside, you should get your facts straight...andy warhol has all sorts of staying
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spelling aside, you should get your facts straight...andy warhol has all sorts of staying power...um, he's pretty much (along with rauschenberg, johns, and duchamp) the basis for most art (2 dimensional, not to mention warhol's influence on film, and yeh, there is one non-believers) conceived since the 70's...they teach college level classes on him...let's just hope they do the same for kid606 (i forget if miguel is using a space now or not) steve ferrari ps- soccergirl and gq on the eq rule, deal with it
quoted 1 line "rob salls" <uncutvein@hotmail.com> 07/18/00 23:24 PM >>>>>> "rob salls" <uncutvein@hotmail.com> 07/18/00 23:24 PM >>>
Mainly as it goes, you are all looking like a bunch of twats.there was something like 200 messages about kid hype and lex.. Then the whole thing of saying that lex is in that ae,mas and schematic camp?? What is schematic but a cheap imitation of ae for america?/ Then mas what for germany?/ I don't see what you people are talking about. The fact is kid hype is nonething but that. Look how much goes in to talk rather than music.... Lex is fine, sure maybe his earlier stuff is very derived from obvious places, But he is new and I am sure that will change.It takes a long time to develop your own unique expression with out being taken by your surroundings interests or influences. Kid on the other hand is like an andy warhol for the 2000s(see how long he will last ). And ps I don't give a shit about my spelling ,so piss off! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-07-19 13:37Adam PiontekOn Wed, 19 Jul 2000 00:11:33 -0400, Stephen Olson wrote: >andy warhol [snip] ...they teach
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quoted 3 lines andy warhol [snip] ...they teach college level classes on him...>andy warhol [snip] ...they teach college level classes on him... >let's just hope they do the same for kid606 >steve ferrari
EEWWW!! i hate it when people say that sort of thing about anybody -- because andy warhol only is who he is now because he's dead and people have the gift of hindsight and historical perspective, whereas with anybody around now, especially virtual unknowns (face it, who could you ask on the street who really knows anything about kid606?), it's purely guesswork, and it's pretty much impossible to guess about such things furthermore ... kid606 as an andy warhol for the 2000's ???? there's a lot i feel is wrong with that idea, first of all being that he ain't that special; he's just another idm artist like aphex or ?-Ziq who's hitting it with a larger section of idm-fans then the average idm artist. the other main thing that's wrong with that idea is that there's no comparison - warhol had an interest in all art, really. he was academic as well as a producer of the art. he had his finger in every pie he could find. whereas kid606 is, well, just another idm kid going 'pop' within the idm/indie biz. maybe he could prove me wrong by really being smart (i know little about his ideas and whatnot about art in general, etc.)... but anyway, i don't think you could have "another andy warhol for the [insert decade]'s" warhol was more a product of his times (his opportunities, his environment, etc etc) than a product merely of his intellect. and the times, they changed, and now i don't think we would quite recognize such a person. of course, maybe that's why i'm not recognizing the kid, if he really is that great ... but i just don't think such a person exists. especially in the idm world, considering the amount of 'bedroom boys' who argue that they just make music because they want to. those are not hight art concepts, and certainly not approaching the importance of warhol. -adam -- Adam Piontek [http://www.tcinternet.net/users/damek/] ICQ: 3456339 [damek@earthling.net] ... What we know of other people is only our memory of the moments during which we knew them. -- T. S. Eliot --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-07-19 04:53Rjyan Kidwell> you can't explain to me why I > should not feel the way i feel about something I like. a
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quoted 2 lines you can't explain to me why I> you can't explain to me why I > should not feel the way i feel about something I like.
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2000-07-19 05:14rob sallsI am not trying to say what you should or shouldn't like .I am just stating obvious facts.
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I am not trying to say what you should or shouldn't like .I am just stating obvious facts. Music 90% entertainment 10% emotion ..Believe it or not someone in this time said that.Someone who you really don't get.Sorry that people took my words personal, that was not my intention.. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-07-19 05:25LOWONICE13@aol.comIn a message dated 7/19/00 12:16:44 AM Central Daylight Time, uncutvein@hotmail.com writes
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2000-07-19 05:28stevesalvador dali was/is the savior of modern art. Everything else in comparison is a shallow
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salvador dali was/is the savior of modern art. Everything else in comparison is a shallow statement...where as Dali touched something so vast and thoroughly that you cannot be but saturated... (not to mention his sculptures) ...andy warhol had a factory to put icons on things....much modern art needs an explanation and these are usually absent. Isn't it warhol who said everyone gets there 15 minutes of fame...maybe because he knew his was closing fast.... the work of someone like Dali will live forever. a cambells soup can and picture of elvis or monroe is lost already on most people under 20...warhol was "neat" Dali is simply timeless. Pick any time for him to be born....now, 50 years from now... and he'd still have the same effect. I'm not saying warhol was a waste....I think he was more a celebrity than an artist though....right place right time and all that ----------
quoted 5 lines From: "Stephen Olson" <solson@risd.edu>>From: "Stephen Olson" <solson@risd.edu> >To: <uncutvein@hotmail.com>, <idm@hyperreal.org> >Subject: Re: [idm] american roll call (kid vs. lex) >Date: Tue, Jul 18, 2000, 8:11 PM >
quoted 33 lines spelling aside, you should get your facts straight...andy warhol has all> spelling aside, you should get your facts straight...andy warhol has all > sorts of staying power...um, he's pretty much (along with rauschenberg, > johns, and duchamp) the basis for most art (2 dimensional, not to mention > warhol's influence on film, and yeh, there is one non-believers) conceived > since the 70's...they teach college level classes on him...let's just hope > they do the same for kid606 (i forget if miguel is using a space now or not) > > steve ferrari > > ps- soccergirl and gq on the eq rule, deal with it > > > >>>> "rob salls" <uncutvein@hotmail.com> 07/18/00 23:24 PM >>> > > Mainly as it goes, you are all looking like a bunch of twats.there was > something like 200 messages about kid hype and lex.. Then the whole thing of > saying that lex is in that ae,mas and schematic camp?? What is schematic but > a cheap imitation of ae for america?/ Then mas what for germany?/ I don't > see what you people are talking about. The fact is kid hype is nonething but > that. Look how much goes in to talk rather than music.... Lex is fine, sure > maybe his earlier stuff is very derived from obvious places, But he is new > and I am sure that will change.It takes a long time to develop your own > unique expression with out being taken by your surroundings interests or > influences. Kid on the other hand is like an andy warhol for the 2000s(see > how long he will last ). And ps I don't give a shit about my spelling ,so > piss off! > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2000-07-19 05:51steveopinions are like assholes...everyone has one. you obviously care very passionately for th
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opinions are like assholes...everyone has one. you obviously care very passionately for the things you appreciate and I'm glad you manage not to sound too elitist (chasm full of sar)...I don't think I mentioned duchamp. I don't deny warhol's validity...I was simply expressing my opinion as you were. I look at art and feel something. then obsess over it for a while...if it's worthy. I don't get Dali being psuedo intellectual. you make his art sound like wall paper. you can't explain to me why I shouldn't like dali or think that he is less important than dali. you can't explain to me why I should not feel the way i feel about something I like. steve ----------
quoted 5 lines From: andrij kopytko <ogre@netaxs.com>>From: andrij kopytko <ogre@netaxs.com> >To: "steve " <saw123@ixpres.com> >Subject: Re: [idm] american roll call (kid vs. lex) >Date: Tue, Jul 18, 2000, 8:32 PM >
quoted 12 lines At 09:28 PM 7/18/00 -0800, you wrote:> At 09:28 PM 7/18/00 -0800, you wrote: >>salvador dali was/is the savior of modern art. > > You're totally insane. =) Don't even begin to compare Dali's > pseudo-intellectual self-emfatuated art to Duchamp. If there were no Dali, > we would be out a Far Side comic strip or two. If there were no Duchamp, > we'd still be in the dark ages. > > -- > andrij. > >
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2000-07-19 06:17stevejesus. are you on crack? you can't be serious? we're talking about art not holy fucking wa
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jesus. are you on crack? you can't be serious? we're talking about art not holy fucking wars or pederases. how does your thought process work. where do you draw your conclusions from? it says like. not worship. not brainwash. not ingested since the age of zero. religion is something separate altogether...jihads...jeez. I don't carry around the bible of Dali and preach it to people and damn those who don't accept the book or refuse to live on the same peice of land they live on...shit man..what the hell. I just like Dali and don't think warhol is all that special or the well spring of art as we know it. I don't know what the hell a jihad has to do with it... and how far off topic are we now? or does it matter? everything is art? art is everything?
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quoted 5 lines From: Rjyan Kidwell <cex@tigerbeat6.com>>From: Rjyan Kidwell <cex@tigerbeat6.com> >To: idm <idm@hyperreal.org> >Subject: Re: [idm] american roll call (kid vs. lex) >Date: Tue, Jul 18, 2000, 8:53 PM >
quoted 15 lines you can't explain to me why I>> you can't explain to me why I >> should not feel the way i feel about something I like. > > and this is why we have jihads. > > > > -rk > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2000-07-19 08:01MarkSalvador Dali also ate his own poop. He's still an amazing artist and all, but i had to th
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Salvador Dali also ate his own poop. He's still an amazing artist and all, but i had to throw that in there too. -mark steve wrote:
quoted 15 lines salvador dali was/is the savior of modern art. Everything else in> salvador dali was/is the savior of modern art. Everything else in > comparison is a shallow statement...where as Dali touched something so vast > and thoroughly that you cannot be but saturated... (not to mention his > sculptures) ...andy warhol had a factory to put icons on things....much > modern art needs an explanation and these are usually absent. Isn't it > warhol who said everyone gets there 15 minutes of fame...maybe because he > knew his was closing fast.... > > the work of someone like Dali will live forever. a cambells soup can and > picture of elvis or monroe is lost already on most people under 20...warhol > was "neat" Dali is simply timeless. Pick any time for him to be > born....now, 50 years from now... and he'd still have the same effect. > > I'm not saying warhol was a waste....I think he was more a celebrity than an > artist though....right place right time and all that
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2000-07-19 13:00Topping, Micah (Mastech)Magritte is and was in my opinion a more "startling" artist than dali... and he didn't eat
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Magritte is and was in my opinion a more "startling" artist than dali... and he didn't eat poop either!
quoted 1 line Salvador Dali also ate his own poop. He's still an amazing artist and all,>Salvador Dali also ate his own poop. He's still an amazing artist and all,
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quoted 1 line had to throw that in there too.>had to throw that in there too.
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2000-07-27 08:43Medium GrahamDon'cha just *love* the way he paints those rocks!? No seriously...Magritte is IMO one of
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Don'cha just *love* the way he paints those rocks!? No seriously...Magritte is IMO one of the most interesting painters this century has seen. That's my opinion. Don't shoot me down for it. G-love.
quoted 14 lines -----Original Message-----> -----Original Message----- > From: Topping, Micah (Mastech) [mailto:micah.topping-eds@eds.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 2:01 PM > To: idm > Subject: RE: [idm] american roll call (kid vs. lex) > > > Magritte is and was in my opinion a more "startling" artist than dali... > and he didn't eat poop either! > > >Salvador Dali also ate his own poop. He's still an amazing > artist and all, > but i > >had to throw that in there too.
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2000-07-19 13:58Rjyan Kidwell> jesus. are you on crack? you can't be serious? we're talking about art not > holy fuckin
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quoted 1 line jesus. are you on crack? you can't be serious? we're talking about art> jesus. are you on crack? you can't be serious? we're talking about art
not
quoted 2 lines holy fucking wars or pederases. how does your thought process work. where> holy fucking wars or pederases. how does your thought process work. where > do you draw your conclusions from?
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2000-07-19 15:47Stephen Olsonoh christ...dali is for 7th graders..."oh wow, this image is something and something else
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oh christ...dali is for 7th graders..."oh wow, this image is something and something else at the time! neat! and it's all hyper-realistic like a dutch master, but weird like a dream...i want to fuck my mom, and gala, gala looks like my mom, i'm an asshole" dali has not stood the test of time...there's a great deal more interesting work from the surrealists, and more importantly the dadaists...though maybe i should go to that museum in florida huh? christ with a hypercube...i suck vermeer's dick steve ferrari
quoted 1 line "steve " <saw123@ixpres.com> 07/19/00 00:30 AM >>>>>> "steve " <saw123@ixpres.com> 07/19/00 00:30 AM >>>
salvador dali was/is the savior of modern art. Everything else in comparison is a shallow statement...where as Dali touched something so vast and thoroughly that you cannot be but saturated... (not to mention his sculptures) ...andy warhol had a factory to put icons on things....much modern art needs an explanation and these are usually absent. Isn't it warhol who said everyone gets there 15 minutes of fame...maybe because he knew his was closing fast.... the work of someone like Dali will live forever. a cambells soup can and picture of elvis or monroe is lost already on most people under 20...warhol was "neat" Dali is simply timeless. Pick any time for him to be born....now, 50 years from now... and he'd still have the same effect. I'm not saying warhol was a waste....I think he was more a celebrity than an artist though....right place right time and all that ----------
quoted 5 lines From: "Stephen Olson" <solson@risd.edu>>From: "Stephen Olson" <solson@risd.edu> >To: <uncutvein@hotmail.com>, <idm@hyperreal.org> >Subject: Re: [idm] american roll call (kid vs. lex) >Date: Tue, Jul 18, 2000, 8:11 PM >
quoted 33 lines spelling aside, you should get your facts straight...andy warholhas all> spelling aside, you should get your facts straight...andy warholhas all > sorts of staying power...um, he's pretty much (along with rauschenberg, > johns, and duchamp) the basis for most art (2 dimensional, not to mention > warhol's influence on film, and yeh, there is one non-believers) conceived > since the 70's...they teach college level classes on him...let's just hope > they do the same for kid606 (i forget if miguel is using a space now or not) > > steve ferrari > > ps- soccergirl and gq on the eq rule, deal with it > > > >>>> "rob salls" <uncutvein@hotmail.com> 07/18/00 23:24 PM >>> > > Mainly as it goes, you are all looking like a bunch of twats.there was > something like 200 messages about kid hype and lex.. Then the whole thing of > saying that lex is in that ae,mas and schematic camp?? What is schematic but > a cheap imitation of ae for america?/ Then mas what for germany?/ I don't > see what you people are talking about. The fact is kid hype is nonething but > that. Look how much goes in to talk rather than music.... Lex is fine, sure > maybe his earlier stuff is very derived from obvious places, But he is new > and I am sure that will change.It takes a long time to develop your own > unique expression with out being taken by your surroundings interests or > influences. Kid on the other hand is like an andy warhol for the 2000s(see > how long he will last ). And ps I don't give a shit about my spelling ,so > piss off! > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2000-07-19 15:52Stephen Olsonand to bring it full circle...mike patton also stated once in n.m.e. his enjoyment of eati
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and to bring it full circle...mike patton also stated once in n.m.e. his enjoyment of eating his own excrement... yum steve ferrari
quoted 1 line Mark <mef@ecst.csuchico.edu> 07/19/00 04:04 AM >>>>>> Mark <mef@ecst.csuchico.edu> 07/19/00 04:04 AM >>>
Salvador Dali also ate his own poop. He's still an amazing artist and all, but i had to throw that in there too. -mark steve wrote:
quoted 15 lines salvador dali was/is the savior of modern art. Everything else in> salvador dali was/is the savior of modern art. Everything else in > comparison is a shallow statement...where as Dali touched something so vast > and thoroughly that you cannot be but saturated... (not to mention his > sculptures) ...andy warhol had a factory to put icons on things....much > modern art needs an explanation and these are usually absent. Isn't it > warhol who said everyone gets there 15 minutes of fame...maybe because he > knew his was closing fast.... > > the work of someone like Dali will live forever. a cambells soup can and > picture of elvis or monroe is lost already on most people under 20...warhol > was "neat" Dali is simply timeless. Pick any time for him to be > born....now, 50 years from now... and he'd still have the same effect. > > I'm not saying warhol was a waste....I think he was more a celebrity than an > artist though....right place right time and all that
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2000-07-19 17:14andrij kopytkoAt 11:52 AM 7/19/00 -0400, you wrote: >and to bring it full circle...mike patton also stat
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At 11:52 AM 7/19/00 -0400, you wrote:
quoted 2 lines and to bring it full circle...mike patton also stated once in n.m.e. his>and to bring it full circle...mike patton also stated once in n.m.e. his >enjoyment of eating his own excrement...
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2000-07-19 17:31Stephen Olsonwell thought out, and appropriately "clever" for such a simple-minded joke...but i'm afrai
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well thought out, and appropriately "clever" for such a simple-minded joke...but i'm afraid the interview dates from at least two years ago plur steve ferrari
quoted 1 line andrij kopytko <ogre@netaxs.com> 07/19/00 13:26 PM >>>>>> andrij kopytko <ogre@netaxs.com> 07/19/00 13:26 PM >>>
At 11:52 AM 7/19/00 -0400, you wrote:
quoted 2 lines and to bring it full circle...mike patton also stated once in n.m.e. his>and to bring it full circle...mike patton also stated once in n.m.e. his >enjoyment of eating his own excrement...
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2000-07-19 20:03andrei@world.std.comrob salls wrote: > Music 90% entertainment 10% emotion .. 1% inspiration 99% perspiration
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quoted 1 line Music 90% entertainment 10% emotion ..> Music 90% entertainment 10% emotion ..
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