To be fair, though, women have complained for years that they can't be
comfortable in some environments because of lurid glances from men. If we
give weight to these claims, we must also say that men who don't like being
eyed are allowed to feel a little uncomfortable with it. Women complain
about going to bars and feeling 'like a piece of meat'. Aren't men allowed
to feel this way, too?
Not ALL resistance to gay culture is inherintly gay-bashing.
I live in SF, I have gay friends and I'm comfortable with my own
sexuality...am I suddenly a gay-basher because I'm uncomfortable in a club,
surrounded by a gaggle of gay men checking me out?
It's not about being pro- or anti-gay; it's about being objectified. And
this is only one instance of it.
It would be silly to say that everything that happens to a straight man
happens BECAUSE he is straight. It's just as silly to claim 'gay-bashing'
everytime something bad happens to a gay man (or to gay culture). There are
more reasons in heaven and hell than sexuality and more reasons for Kelley
to be uncomfortable than homophobia.
So Kelley doesn't like being eyed by gay men in the clubs of nyc? maybe he's
shy? maybe he doesn't like being watched? maybe he's a bad dancer? maybe he
feels objectified? maybe he just wants to listen to the music and not be
disturbed by people every few minutes...
who knows, it could be anything. To fly off into judgmentalism and claim
he's homophobic is short-sighted and a bit harsh.
damn, does anyone just ever ask a question first, anymore???
---brian
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-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Fahey [mailto:chris.fahey@raremedium.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 9:17 AM
To: 'Kelley Hackett'; IDM (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [idm] prevalent homosexuality among IDM "listeners"
Unlike most listmembers, I've usually appreciated your posts, Kelley, but
now you've gone and wrecked it with your classic homophobia. I'm really
surprised that a normally chill cat like you would reveal such a
conservative fear of people who, like you, just want to have a good time.
Big deal, so a bunch of guys are eyeing you up. What're you afraid of? How
does the presence of gay guys make you unable to dance? Maybe your secret
gay-bashing fantasy was what caused you to not have a good time.
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