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Re: [idm] All this fucking whining about the IDM list

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2000-07-25 08:14joshua eustis [idm] All this fucking whining about the IDM list
2000-07-25 15:47Re: [idm] All this fucking whining about the IDM list
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2000-07-25 08:14joshua eustis>From: Brian MacDonald <brianm@kuci.org> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: [idm] My complai
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quoted 81 lines From: Brian MacDonald <brianm@kuci.org>>From: Brian MacDonald <brianm@kuci.org> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: [idm] My complaint about the IDM list >Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 16:12:02 -0700 (PDT) > > >I kept my silence when the IDM list announced it wanted to play on >people's conscious and unconscious belief structures. I did nothing when >it tried to endorse a complete system of leadership by mobocracy. But its >latest theories are the straw that breaks the camel's back. Some >background is in order: If it weren't for infernal schmucks, it would have >no friends. Here's a specific example of the way in which human life is >full of artificiality, perversion, and misery, much of which is caused by >immature practitioners of materialism: It wants to burn books. > >This makes me fearful that I might someday find myself in the crosshairs >of the IDM list's violent doctrines. (To be honest, though, it wouldn't be >the first time.) If you've ever watched television or read a book, odds >are that you already know that the IDM list's reason is not true reason. >It does not seek the truth, but only egocentric answers, mendacious >resolutions to conflicts. > >So let me make it clear that I feel that the IDM list's stratagems are >nothing short of baleful. My views, of course, are not the issue here. The >issue is that everybody is probably familiar with the cliche that we must >coolly and objectively adopt the standpoint that it is calling for blind, >impulsive action for the sake of action, for the sake of making itself >feel good. Well, there's a lot of truth in that cliche. I agree that I >don't see how the IDM list can be so inimical. But I also think that those >of us who are still sane, those of us who still have a firm grip on >reality, those of us who still believe that the IDM list is incapable of >writing a letter without using such phrases as "uncontrollable loons", >"reprehensible contemptible spoiled brats", "noxious deranged hackers", or >some combination thereof, have an obligation to do more than just observe >what the IDM list is doing from a safe distance. We have an obligation to >lead the way to the future, not to the past. We have an obligation to >bring fresh leadership and even-handed tolerance to the present >controversy. And we have an obligation to keep our courage up. > >The funny thing is, if we let the IDM list gain a respectable foothold for >its condescending press releases, all we'll have to look forward to in the >future is a public realm devoid of culture and a narrow and routinized >professional life untouched by the highest creations of civilization. I >have just one word for the IDM list: undemonstrativeness. Nonetheless, I, >for one, am thoroughly shocked and angered by the IDM list's dishonest >improprieties. Such shameful conduct should never be repeated. With an >enormous expenditure of words, unclear in content and incomprehensible as >to meaning, the IDM list frequently stammers an endless hodgepodge of >phrases purportedly as witty as in reality they are paltry. Only cruel >punks can feel at home in this maze of reasoning and cull an "inner >experience" from this dung heap of asinine sexist jujuism. The IDM list >whines about saturnine hippies, yet it enthusiastically supports mumpish >hotheaded junkies. > >There is something inherently wrong with an organization that wants, more >than anything else, to smear people of impeccable character and >reputation. The reason is clear. The IDM list has stated that black is >white and night is day. That's just pure Dadaism. Well, in the IDM list's >case, it might be pure ignorance, seeing that it has been said that there >is not a single word in that sentence that the IDM list can take exception >to. I, in turn, claim that if we can understand what has caused the >current plague of intransigent evil-doers, I believe that we can then >issue a call to conscience and reason. When I first heard about the IDM >list's half-measures, I dismissed them as merely bitter. But when I later >learned that it wants me to adopt a new world-view, I realized that I >myself openly confess that as soon as the IDM list's cronies rewrite and >reword much of humanity's formative works to favor extremism, their >propositions will cease to end the IDM list's control over the minds and >souls of countless people and instead will trivialize certain events that >are particularly special to us all. What's my problem, then? Allow me to >present it in the form of a question: What demons possessed the IDM list >to retard the free and natural economic development of certain countries' >indigenous population? Before you read this letter, you might have thought >that all literature which opposes narcissism was forged by the worst sorts >of vindictive execrable peddlers of snake-oil remedies I've ever seen. Now >you know that the IDM list exhibits an overweening sense of entitlement >and a predilection for depreciating others. > >======================================================================= > Brian MacDonald <brianm@kuci.org> > KUCI 88.9 fM in Irvine, CA -- Orange County
"an enormous expenditure of words, unclear in content and incomprehensible as to meaning"- Damn you got that right, bro. You give the impression that either you are 40 years old and condescending in a malicious way or that you are 16 and preparing to take the PSAT. If you wanted to help the list, you wouldn't condescend its readers with such elevated and vague language. It gave ME gas. And what's wrong with Dadaism anyway? At least you took an art history class... AND GODDAMMMIT WHY ARE YOU NOT WORKING ON YOUR TRACKS!?!?!?!?!? Remember LFO- Love is the answer. Benelli ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-07-25 15:47Andor144@aol.comIn a message dated 7/25/00 1:16:21 AM, benelli3000@hotmail.com writes: << Remember LFO- Lo
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In a message dated 7/25/00 1:16:21 AM, benelli3000@hotmail.com writes: << Remember LFO- Love is the answer. >> we all know the boy band L.F.O. what about LFO the electronic stars, they were on a compilation that i have called the best of wasted.... hit or miss on the other comp people but they have a song called slow down speedy which is alright they seemed like they were around about the same time aphex twin was doing i care because you do -matt --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org