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Just wondering if anyone on the list has had much exposure to 'Trans Am' (their on Thrill Jockey Records). Their style is across the board. One track will be a very electronic, and incredible by any musical standard, and the next will be a full-out hard rock extravaganza. I have NO problem with this at all, in fact I enjoy all types of music. The question I have is this : Has anyone heard much of their stuff, and if so what the verdict? I personally think that much of their music stands up to, and in some case surpasses, most IDM that I've heard. I'm just wondering why I've heard not mention of some of the more eclectic stuff that's happening in electronic music (i.e. Torroise, Bis, Stereoloab, Oval) Thanks for your time ;) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

At 15:02 17/07/00 PDT, analog lifeform wrote:

quoted 1 line [...] in fact I enjoy all types of music.

>[...] in fact I enjoy all types of music.

Cool, what's your favourite waiata? Rag? Skiffle release? Any qawali singers you'd consider notable now Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan has passed on?? ;-) Sorry I'm knee-jerking.. hopefully my point is as blatant as bad acupuncture. ;-)

quoted 2 lines The question I have is this :

>The question I have is this : >Has anyone heard much of their stuff, and if so what the verdict?

Yeah, I've heard plenty. The only track of theirs I've really got into is one on a compilation on Mille Plateaux called 'In Memoriam Gilles Deleuze'. Mostly they just leave me cold... they're too blatantly one way or the other for me.

quoted 4 lines I personally think that much of their music stands up to, and in some case

>I personally think that much of their music stands up to, and in some case >surpasses, most IDM that I've heard. I'm just wondering why I've heard not >mention of some of the more eclectic stuff that's happening in electronic >music (i.e. Torroise, Bis, Stereoloab, Oval)

These people have all been discussed on IDM before, from memory. I would've expected more discussion of the new Oval, because he's been embraced by the list for years and it seems more and more people are discussing music in the vein of his material, but hey... There have also been recent discussions on Zammuto and Savath + Savalas, both of whom employ guitars in their (very thislisty) music. Michael np. Neu! -+- Involve Records http://involve.co.nz Jet Jaguar MP3s http://mp3.com/jetjag/ -+- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On Mon, 17 Jul 2000, Josh Davison wrote:

quoted 3 lines these guys' first album absolutely rules. Surrender to the Night is also

> these guys' first album absolutely rules. Surrender to the Night is also > pretty top notch, and Futureworld has some solid solid stuff on it. Their > other two albums are pretty forgettable ...

Other two albums? They only have four proper albums -- three of which you just mentioned and praised... There's "The Surveillance" which came out between "Surrender" and "Futureworld"... which I agree is lacking a bit. And there's the "Who Do We Think You Are" mini album which is a just an outtake/remix one-off for an Australian tour.. and that new collection that just came out on Thrill Jockey. Sooooo, unless I'm missing something.. ======================================================================= Brian MacDonald <brianm@kuci.org> KUCI 88.9 fM in Irvine, CA -- Orange County ======================================================================= --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

new studio album on Pill Jockey ... every bit as wack as The Surveillance i forget the title, maybe its not out yet. I thought Who Do We Think you Are was pretty entertaining though josh -- String Theory : Digital Music for Humans http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi On Mon, 17 Jul 2000, Brian MacDonald wrote:

quoted 30 lines On Mon, 17 Jul 2000, Josh Davison wrote:

> > On Mon, 17 Jul 2000, Josh Davison wrote: > > > these guys' first album absolutely rules. Surrender to the Night is also > > pretty top notch, and Futureworld has some solid solid stuff on it. Their > > other two albums are pretty forgettable ... > > Other two albums? They only have four proper albums -- three of which you > just mentioned and praised... > > There's "The Surveillance" which came out between "Surrender" and > "Futureworld"... which I agree is lacking a bit. And there's the "Who Do > We Think You Are" mini album which is a just an outtake/remix one-off for > an Australian tour.. and that new collection that just came out on Thrill > Jockey. > > Sooooo, unless I'm missing something.. > > ======================================================================= > Brian MacDonald <brianm@kuci.org> > KUCI 88.9 fM in Irvine, CA -- Orange County > ======================================================================= > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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quoted 4 lines Any qawali

>Any qawali >singers you'd consider notable now Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan has passed on?? >;-) >

'point' well taken, however, I must append that statement by saying that the music I enjoy the most is stuff the illicts some mental or emotional response from me.

quoted 3 lines Sorry I'm knee-jerking.. hopefully my point is as blatant as bad

>Sorry I'm knee-jerking.. hopefully my point is as blatant as bad >acupuncture. ;-) >

with a spoon no less

quoted 3 lines Mostly they just leave me cold... they're too blatantly one way or the

>Mostly they just leave me cold... they're too blatantly one way or the >other for me. >

Hmmmm....I guess it's all in what you're looking for. I have to say that reguardless of who's doing what w/ electronics that I use Warp's first AI complilation as the standard by which all others are judged (this is a personal thing). They (Trans Am)have a number of tracks that I feel meet my IDM 'acid test'. I remember the first time I heard that record (AI-1), and how it made me re-examine the way I felt about music in general, and electronic music in particular.

quoted 6 lines (i.e. Torroise, Bis, Stereoloab, Oval)

> >(i.e. Torroise, Bis, Stereoloab, Oval) > >These people have all been discussed on IDM before, from memory. I > >would've expected more discussion of the new Oval, because he's been > >embraced by the list for years and it seems more and more people are > >discussing music in the vein of his material.

I've seen a few smatterings about Oval, but nothing too in depth. I've have just recently re-subscribed to the list (about a week now), so I have no long-term perspective. I guess I feel that there's quite a bit of really great stuff that's out there that I have yet to hear mention of at all on this list. While I feel that AFX, Squarepusher, and Autechre all posses great skill and genius, there are only so many postings of "do you think that AFX is sending me secret messages in his music?" that I can read through. It would be nice to hear something/someone new as well. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 1 line Just wondering if anyone on the list has had much exposure to 'Trans Am'

>Just wondering if anyone on the list has had much exposure to 'Trans Am'

caught them live once and thought they had an amusing "maleness" thing going on, a real 'boy band'. but the music was pretty mediocre. live, at least, their strong suit seemed to be their Branca-like minimalist guitar band thing. the electro sounding stuff was cute. well, so was the drummer when he took his shirt off. but anyway, despite their good energy and evident wit, I wished they'd gone further in being an innovative rock trio; it seemed like they were revisiting a few art-rock ideas which have been elaborately (and more successfully) explored by others. It does seem that a lot of the musical ideas that are found in electronic music needn't be wed to electronic sounds, and that there should be a lot of really interesting artists who use traditional acoustic intruments to make new music relevent to, say, the IDM list discussion. I suppose I'd hoped for something like that from Trans Am. But it doesn't really seem to be happening as far as I can see. Perhaps the medium is more important than I suspected. kurt --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

you said:

quoted 1 line Just wondering if anyone on the list has had much exposure to 'Trans Am'

>>>Just wondering if anyone on the list has had much exposure to 'Trans Am'

quoted 1 line caught them live once and thought they had an amusing "maleness" thing

>>caught them live once and thought they had an amusing "maleness" thing

going on, a real 'boy band'. but the music was pretty mediocre. live, at least, their strong suit seemed to be their Branca-like minimalist guitar band thing. the electro sounding stuff was cute. well, so was the drummer when he took his shirt off. but anyway, despite their good energy and evident wit, I wished they'd gone further in being an innovative rock trio; it seemed like they were revisiting a few art-rock ideas which have been elaborately (and more successfully) explored by others. It does seem that a lot of the musical ideas that are found in electronic music needn't be wed to electronic sounds, and that there should be a lot of really interesting artists who use traditional acoustic intruments to make new music relevent to, say, the IDM list discussion. I suppose I'd hoped for something like that from Trans Am. But it doesn't really seem to be

quoted 1 line happening as far as I can see. Perhaps the medium is more important than I

>>happening as far as I can see. Perhaps the medium is more important than I

suspected. I said: This reminds me of arovane's "tides". acoustic sounding, but not acoustically genred (???). Also of track 3 on the "lily of the valley" schematic compilation (the one wif the bass loop). they're done (i try to do it as well), it's just not quite as popular (yet) as, say, a beep. (???) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

i wrote:

quoted 2 lines It does seem that a lot of the musical ideas that are found in electronic

>>It does seem that a lot of the musical ideas that are found in electronic >>music

"EggyToast" <youn0394@umn.edu> wrote:

quoted 4 lines I said: This reminds me of arovane's "tides". acoustic sounding, but not

>I said: This reminds me of arovane's "tides". acoustic sounding, but not >acoustically genred (???). Also of track 3 on the "lily of the valley" >schematic compilation (the one wif the bass loop). they're done (i try to >do it as well), it's just not quite as popular (yet) as, say, a beep. (???)

sampled acoustic instruments are really all over the place in electronic music. the thing I find missing in this genre are traditional instruments traditionally played towards new ends. kurt np: Plaid "trainer" -- so this is the holy grail, huh? not bad actually. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org