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In a message dated 21/12/99 10:03:19 kent@avalon.net writes:

quoted 3 lines You know I got into Electronic music in a big way in the early 90s with

> You know I got into Electronic music in a big way in the early 90s with > the rise of 'IDM' (aphex twin, black dog, FSOL, Orb), but over the years > I've gained a real appreciation of 'real' (presumably 'stupid' by

comparison)

quoted 4 lines dance music. If you really study on it, even stuff like Chicago booty

> > dance music. If you really study on it, even stuff like Chicago booty > house has a unique character and a host of people working at the top of > their form. Real dance music induces real dancing, instead of the

occasional

quoted 4 lines head nod and chin stroke.

> head nod and chin stroke. > > Now more than ever, I think that people need to really examine the whole > idea of IDM, because a lot of stuff coming out seems pretty barren of the

things

quoted 7 lines that initially drew me to the form -- emotional depth, and some sort of

> that initially drew me to the form -- emotional depth, and some sort of > rhythmic groove that compels you to move your body. And people need to > widen their horizons a little. Just listening to one style of music is > ultimately a limiting factor to your musical enjoyment. Everything we > think of as our music succeeds or fails by how well it can incorporate > and retranslate other musics. I don't think it's possible to fully > understand and appreciate Selected Ambient Works by Aphex Twin unless you

know

quoted 1 line the work of Raymond Scott and Eric Satie.

> the work of Raymond Scott and Eric Satie.

I don't seem to realise that anyone here at all talk about house music which exquisitely intelligent listening music and not made specifically for the dancefloor. Artist such as Larry Heard, Chris Gray, Ron Trent, Anthony Nicholson, Carl Craig et al. all come to mind. And what's also interesting is that a lot of dance/ deep house records always have at least a track on the flip side which is for listening (after dancing). Is it just me or do I perceive most idm listers as just concentrating on music made by Caucasian American/ Europeans, and not enough on the Afro Population. Perhaps we do need to re-assess our perception of idm. A Z --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

i think its important to take in as many musical styles/genres as possible. there was a point for me when i only listened to rock music, then as i got more and more into electronic music, i completely switched to listening exclusively to electronic stuff, which led me into house music, which got me into jazz, and then into soul and funk, and back into rock. and now that im back at square one, i find the music i liked before is even more enjoyable because its possible to see the connections between the different genres and styles. i hope that makes sense on screen. anyway i really dig the mateo and matos lp on glasgow underground called "the many shades of mateo and matos." its got this great track called 'stomp your feet' thats fantastic. also got bill laswell/pete namlook's 'psychonavigation' on subharmonic and 4mod3 on phthalo. btw: has anyone checked out the bluesix stuff on naked music nyc? ive just recently gotten into his stuff and im wondering what else is similar...? thanks (m)

quoted 7 lines Is it just me or do

> Is it just me or do >I >perceive most idm listers as just concentrating on music made by >Caucasian >American/ Europeans, and not enough on the Afro Population. Perhaps we >do >need to re-assess our perception of idm.

quoted 7 lines A Z

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Amen!! Freeform has re-established my belief in the future of IDM/ELM/ILM!! np: Freeform - Glob Teccie http://www.mp3.com/ceTeR

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> -----Original Message----- > From: Konstantin Minko [mailto:ibss@ukrpack.net] > Sent: dinsdag 21 december 1999 7:41 > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: (idm) Freeform discography > > > > Could anyone help me to find most complete discography of Freeform? > > And if it is possible, could anyone give more or less stable and jsutified > opinion on his new lp? > > For an utter Ae fan I'm too in love with this guy. 8) And he's great. I > think in his music I see what other idm artists lack - personal > approach not > just to melodies and drum or bass patterns, but to the whole > sound as well. > His unique ability to connect slow and minimal ambient like tracks with > wierd and sometimes funny samples bound in the deeply structured matrix of > more sound ample songs makes me crazy. I love the guy. > > Alien searching for new info.... > > > np: AFX "AB2" and then Amorphous Androgynous "Tales of Ephedrina" > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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At 09:41 21-12-99 +0300, you wrote:

quoted 1 line Could anyone help me to find most complete discography of Freeform?

>Could anyone help me to find most complete discography of Freeform?

kind-of complete: :: free ep (skam 004, 12") :: elastic speakers (worm interface 002, cd) :: palavalamp (worm interface 010, 12") :: heterarchy (worm interface se01, cd) :: glob (mas 3.05, 12") :: pattern tub (headphone, cd/12"?) :: me shape (sprawl imprint, cd/12"?) :: green park (sub rosa, cd/12") plus tracks on :: chinese whispers comp. (sprawl imprint) :: alt.frequencies 2 (worm interface) :: alt.frequencies 3 (worm interface) :: alt.frequencies 4 (worm interface, upcoming)

quoted 2 lines And if it is possible, could anyone give more or less stable and jsutified

>And if it is possible, could anyone give more or less stable and jsutified >opinion on his new lp?

i only picked it up yesterday (on lp btw, it has 10 tracks - does the cd have more?) and it sounds _good_, esp. tracks 5, 8 and 10 (from mind). not as good as pattern tub tho', imo and i'm not that keen about the artwork either. but: it's good enough to pick it up on your next record shop visit! cheers, name [~] peter cozijn e-mail [~] pu@dds.nl habitation [~] lisse, the netherlands music fsft [~] huizen.dds.nl/~pu --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

you forgot the prowl cdep on warp. just listened to it last night. chris

quoted 42 lines At 09:41 21-12-99 +0300, you wrote:

>At 09:41 21-12-99 +0300, you wrote: >>Could anyone help me to find most complete discography of Freeform? > >kind-of complete: > >:: free ep (skam 004, 12") >:: elastic speakers (worm interface 002, cd) >:: palavalamp (worm interface 010, 12") >:: heterarchy (worm interface se01, cd) >:: glob (mas 3.05, 12") >:: pattern tub (headphone, cd/12"?) >:: me shape (sprawl imprint, cd/12"?) >:: green park (sub rosa, cd/12") > >plus tracks on > >:: chinese whispers comp. (sprawl imprint) >:: alt.frequencies 2 (worm interface) >:: alt.frequencies 3 (worm interface) >:: alt.frequencies 4 (worm interface, upcoming) > > >>And if it is possible, could anyone give more or less stable and jsutified >>opinion on his new lp? > >i only picked it up yesterday (on lp btw, it has 10 tracks - does the cd >have more?) and it sounds _good_, esp. tracks 5, 8 and 10 (from mind). not >as good as pattern tub tho', imo and i'm not that keen about the artwork >either. but: it's good enough to pick it up on your next record shop visit! > >cheers, > > > > name [~] peter cozijn > e-mail [~] pu@dds.nl > habitation [~] lisse, the netherlands > music fsft [~] huizen.dds.nl/~pu > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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thanx! do you have any of those vinyls? I do not use vinyl and am searching for anyone who could copy them to CDR for me. Alien grateful

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> -----Original Message----- > From: peter cozijn [mailto:pu@dds.nl] > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 1:44 PM > To: Konstantin Minko; idm > Subject: Re: (idm) Freeform discography > > > At 09:41 21-12-99 +0300, you wrote: > >Could anyone help me to find most complete discography of Freeform? > > kind-of complete: > > :: free ep (skam 004, 12") > :: elastic speakers (worm interface 002, cd) > :: palavalamp (worm interface 010, 12") > :: heterarchy (worm interface se01, cd) > :: glob (mas 3.05, 12") > :: pattern tub (headphone, cd/12"?) > :: me shape (sprawl imprint, cd/12"?) > :: green park (sub rosa, cd/12") > > plus tracks on > > :: chinese whispers comp. (sprawl imprint) > :: alt.frequencies 2 (worm interface) > :: alt.frequencies 3 (worm interface) > :: alt.frequencies 4 (worm interface, upcoming) > > > >And if it is possible, could anyone give more or less stable and > jsutified > >opinion on his new lp? > > i only picked it up yesterday (on lp btw, it has 10 tracks - does the cd > have more?) and it sounds _good_, esp. tracks 5, 8 and 10 (from mind). not > as good as pattern tub tho', imo and i'm not that keen about the artwork > either. but: it's good enough to pick it up on your next record > shop visit! > > cheers, > > > > name [~] peter cozijn > e-mail [~] pu@dds.nl > habitation [~] lisse, the netherlands > music fsft [~] huizen.dds.nl/~pu

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