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Kinda deep question for the list: What other works of art, theater, literature, poetry, film, etc. do you think fit "the IDM style"? In other words, what creations in these other genres do you feel are the artistic equivalent of IDM in electronic music? For example: "Blade Runner" would be an obvious choice for an IDM-esque film. Maybe "Eraserhead" too? And in literature, Autechre seems to go well with Kafka's "Metamorphosis." The books of Camus & Sartre, as well. Any opinions or ideas? Peace, Jeff __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Jeff Gordon wrote:

quoted 6 lines For example: "Blade Runner" would be an obvious choice

> For example: "Blade Runner" would be an obvious choice > for an IDM-esque film. Maybe "Eraserhead" too? And > in literature, Autechre seems to go well with Kafka's > "Metamorphosis." The books of Camus & Sartre, as > well. >

i can see jean-paul rolling in his grave right about now. please explain how kafka goes with autechre. i'd love to hear it. - wells oliver / s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu " The ball is round. The game lasts ninety minutes. This much is fact. Everything else is just theory. " --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

I don't want to sound grumpy, but I'm going to sound grumpy: please keep a discussion like this, interesting though it may be, of list. To quote a post from Lance 4 days ago, emphasis on "directly": "please dont post topics for debate on this list unless they are directly related to the music discussed on this list. we have far too much off topic banter on this list as is. controversial debates are the last thing this list needs. Any lengthy debates about issues not releated or remotely related to music might be enough to scare even the longtime list members off this list. if you're going to post, please post about electronic music - artists, labels, releases, genres, etc..." To keep this post on topic, I'd like to resurect a controversial, music related, thread. I'm enjoying the comeback of the guitar in IDM. The opening track on Niun Niggung uses one (and MoM have been playing live with one), Hrvatski uses one, Adrien75 uses one, a lot of the sounds on Solutiore of Stareau come from a guitar, and I think I hear live bass on the new Dr. Octopus CD. Have people (or Americans, maybe, since all but one of those examples are American) mellowed in their anti-guitar stances? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

At 09:46 AM 12/17/1999 -0600, you wrote:

quoted 7 lines To keep this post on topic, I'd like to resurect a controversial, music

>To keep this post on topic, I'd like to resurect a controversial, music >related, thread. I'm enjoying the comeback of the guitar in IDM. The >opening track on Niun Niggung uses one (and MoM have been playing live with >one), Hrvatski uses one, Adrien75 uses one, a lot of the sounds on Solutiore >of Stareau come from a guitar, and I think I hear live bass on the new Dr. >Octopus CD. Have people (or Americans, maybe, since all but one of those >examples are American) mellowed in their anti-guitar stances?

Add a few to the guitar-electronica list: . The Remote Viewer output . The Andrew Coleman/new Animals on Wheels output . The Chessie, Hood, Malcolm Arthur releases on Drop Beat . B. Fleischmann releases on Morr Music/Charizma . Köhn cds on (K-raa-k³) . Janek Schaeffer cd on (K-raa-k³) . Matmos's The West cd on Deluxe . Some of Isan's output . To Rococo Rot, Kreidler, Schneider TM, Tortoise, etc... -->-Lance--- lance@inaudible.com p.o. box 450715 westlake, ohio 44145 united states --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

"Danny Wyatt" <danny@arbitrary.com> wrote:

quoted 7 lines To keep this post on topic, I'd like to resurect a controversial, music

>To keep this post on topic, I'd like to resurect a controversial, music >related, thread. I'm enjoying the comeback of the guitar in IDM. The >opening track on Niun Niggung uses one (and MoM have been playing live with >one), Hrvatski uses one, Adrien75 uses one, a lot of the sounds on Solutiore >of Stareau come from a guitar, and I think I hear live bass on the new Dr. >Octopus CD. Have people (or Americans, maybe, since all but one of those >examples are American) mellowed in their anti-guitar stances?

Luke Vibert, for one, has. His forthcoming album on Astralwerks, _Stop The Panic_, is a collab. with pedal-steel guitarist BJ Cole. Matmos seem comfortable with guitarists, too, as their excellent _The West_ EP (mini-LP?) proves. Jeremy Boyle's recent album on Southern shows that interesting things can be done with guitars in an IDM-ish context. I'm sure there are more examples, but I've got work to do. Dave Segal Managing Editor/Alternative Press Reviews/BPM/Reissue Redux/Origins Of Cool Secret Ions on WCSB Thursdays 9-11PM EST www.wcsb.org np: mikael stavostrand- degeneration [korm plastics] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

lots of ambient guitars on K-Group, Birchville Cat Motel, old Main, even Fennesz used a couple on his "hotel Pararrell" cd. And what about his covers of The Beach Boys and The Stones on the classic "Fennesz plays... " 7" Guitar and bass can actually give a bit more focus on lots of electronica. But don't overdo it:) -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Dave Segal <segal@altpress.com> Aan: idm@hyperreal.org <idm@hyperreal.org> Datum: vrijdag 17 december 1999 17:37 Onderwerp: Re: (idm) In the IDM style

quoted 5 lines "Danny Wyatt" <danny@arbitrary.com> wrote:

>"Danny Wyatt" <danny@arbitrary.com> wrote: > >>To keep this post on topic, I'd like to resurect a controversial, music >>related, thread. I'm enjoying the comeback of the guitar in IDM. The >>opening track on Niun Niggung uses one (and MoM have been playing live

with

quoted 1 line one), Hrvatski uses one, Adrien75 uses one, a lot of the sounds on

>>one), Hrvatski uses one, Adrien75 uses one, a lot of the sounds on

Solutiore

quoted 25 lines of Stareau come from a guitar, and I think I hear live bass on the new Dr.

>>of Stareau come from a guitar, and I think I hear live bass on the new Dr. >>Octopus CD. Have people (or Americans, maybe, since all but one of those >>examples are American) mellowed in their anti-guitar stances? > >Luke Vibert, for one, has. His forthcoming album >on Astralwerks, _Stop The Panic_, is a collab. with >pedal-steel guitarist BJ Cole. Matmos seem comfortable >with guitarists, too, as their excellent _The West_ >EP (mini-LP?) proves. Jeremy Boyle's recent album on >Southern shows that interesting things can be done >with guitars in an IDM-ish context. I'm sure there >are more examples, but I've got work to do. > >Dave Segal >Managing Editor/Alternative Press >Reviews/BPM/Reissue Redux/Origins Of Cool >Secret Ions on WCSB Thursdays 9-11PM EST www.wcsb.org > >np: mikael stavostrand- degeneration [korm plastics] > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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I think that just about anything that stimulates your mind is a go. -=GB=- Jeff Gordon wrote:

quoted 26 lines Kinda deep question for the list:

> Kinda deep question for the list: > > What other works of art, theater, literature, poetry, > film, etc. do you think fit "the IDM style"? In other > words, what creations in these other genres do you > feel are the artistic equivalent of IDM in electronic > music? > > For example: "Blade Runner" would be an obvious choice > for an IDM-esque film. Maybe "Eraserhead" too? And > in literature, Autechre seems to go well with Kafka's > "Metamorphosis." The books of Camus & Sartre, as > well. > > Any opinions or ideas? > > Peace, > Jeff > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. > Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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FFWD and Las Vegas by Burger/Ink seem to effectively blend in guitars on a few tracks in each release. am i nutty, or were there rumors of a FFWD follow-up? certainly one of the better ambient releases i have heard. cl --- clietz@enteract.com On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 18:23:57 Johan LOONES wrote:

quoted 55 lines lots of ambient guitars on K-Group, Birchville Cat Motel, old Main, even

>lots of ambient guitars on K-Group, Birchville Cat Motel, old Main, even >Fennesz used a couple on his "hotel Pararrell" cd. And what about his >covers of The Beach Boys and The Stones on the classic "Fennesz plays... " >7" >Guitar and bass can actually give a bit more focus on lots of electronica. >But don't overdo it:) > >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >Van: Dave Segal <segal@altpress.com> >Aan: idm@hyperreal.org <idm@hyperreal.org> >Datum: vrijdag 17 december 1999 17:37 >Onderwerp: Re: (idm) In the IDM style > > >>"Danny Wyatt" <danny@arbitrary.com> wrote: >> >>>To keep this post on topic, I'd like to resurect a controversial, music >>>related, thread. I'm enjoying the comeback of the guitar in IDM. The >>>opening track on Niun Niggung uses one (and MoM have been playing live >with >>>one), Hrvatski uses one, Adrien75 uses one, a lot of the sounds on >Solutiore >>>of Stareau come from a guitar, and I think I hear live bass on the new Dr. >>>Octopus CD. Have people (or Americans, maybe, since all but one of those >>>examples are American) mellowed in their anti-guitar stances? >> >>Luke Vibert, for one, has. His forthcoming album >>on Astralwerks, _Stop The Panic_, is a collab. with >>pedal-steel guitarist BJ Cole. Matmos seem comfortable >>with guitarists, too, as their excellent _The West_ >>EP (mini-LP?) proves. Jeremy Boyle's recent album on >>Southern shows that interesting things can be done >>with guitars in an IDM-ish context. I'm sure there >>are more examples, but I've got work to do. >> >>Dave Segal >>Managing Editor/Alternative Press >>Reviews/BPM/Reissue Redux/Origins Of Cool >>Secret Ions on WCSB Thursdays 9-11PM EST www.wcsb.org >> >>np: mikael stavostrand- degeneration [korm plastics] >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > >

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I heard the same rumour... Contributions should be (I only heard about it from somebody who's asked to join in) by Pimmon, Toss, Dworzec, Gate, ashtray nav, alan licht, our glassie

quoted 1 line azoth,...

>azoth,...

www.freenoise.org/freedom/index.html etc... I think they were talking about a triple cd. -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: cl <clietz@my-deja.com> Aan: Dave Segal <segal@altpress.com>; idm@hyperreal.org <idm@hyperreal.org>; Johan LOONES <johan.loones@skynet.be> Datum: vrijdag 17 december 1999 18:38 Onderwerp: Re: (idm) In the IDM style

quoted 35 lines FFWD and Las Vegas by Burger/Ink seem to

>FFWD and Las Vegas by Burger/Ink seem to >effectively blend in guitars on a few >tracks in each release. >am i nutty, or were there rumors of a FFWD >follow-up? certainly one of the better ambient >releases i have heard. > >cl >--- >clietz@enteract.com > >On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 18:23:57 Johan LOONES wrote: >>lots of ambient guitars on K-Group, Birchville Cat Motel, old Main, even >>Fennesz used a couple on his "hotel Pararrell" cd. And what about his >>covers of The Beach Boys and The Stones on the classic "Fennesz plays... " >>7" >>Guitar and bass can actually give a bit more focus on lots of electronica. >>But don't overdo it:) >> >>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >>Van: Dave Segal <segal@altpress.com> >>Aan: idm@hyperreal.org <idm@hyperreal.org> >>Datum: vrijdag 17 december 1999 17:37 >>Onderwerp: Re: (idm) In the IDM style >> >> >>>"Danny Wyatt" <danny@arbitrary.com> wrote: >>> >>>>To keep this post on topic, I'd like to resurect a controversial, music >>>>related, thread. I'm enjoying the comeback of the guitar in IDM. The >>>>opening track on Niun Niggung uses one (and MoM have been playing live >>with >>>>one), Hrvatski uses one, Adrien75 uses one, a lot of the sounds on >>Solutiore >>>>of Stareau come from a guitar, and I think I hear live bass on the new

Dr.

quoted 1 line Octopus CD. Have people (or Americans, maybe, since all but one of

>>>>Octopus CD. Have people (or Americans, maybe, since all but one of

those

quoted 36 lines examples are American) mellowed in their anti-guitar stances?

>>>>examples are American) mellowed in their anti-guitar stances? >>> >>>Luke Vibert, for one, has. His forthcoming album >>>on Astralwerks, _Stop The Panic_, is a collab. with >>>pedal-steel guitarist BJ Cole. Matmos seem comfortable >>>with guitarists, too, as their excellent _The West_ >>>EP (mini-LP?) proves. Jeremy Boyle's recent album on >>>Southern shows that interesting things can be done >>>with guitars in an IDM-ish context. I'm sure there >>>are more examples, but I've got work to do. >>> >>>Dave Segal >>>Managing Editor/Alternative Press >>>Reviews/BPM/Reissue Redux/Origins Of Cool >>>Secret Ions on WCSB Thursdays 9-11PM EST www.wcsb.org >>> >>>np: mikael stavostrand- degeneration [korm plastics] >>> >>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >>> >>> >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >> > > >--== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- >Share what you know. Learn what you don't. >

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quoted 1 line Kinda deep question for the list:

>Kinda deep question for the list:

kinda deeply stupid question..but

quoted 2 lines What other works of art, theater, literature, poetry,

>What other works of art, theater, literature, poetry, >film, etc. do you think fit "the IDM style"?

quoted 1 line Any opinions or ideas?

>Any opinions or ideas?

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Dave Segal;

quoted 3 lines Luke Vibert, for one, has. His forthcoming album

> Luke Vibert, for one, has. His forthcoming album > on Astralwerks, _Stop The Panic_, is a collab. with > pedal-steel guitarist BJ Cole. <snip>

heard the luke vibert and bj cole 12 inch on Law and Auder - very good, and if it is a sampler of what the long player will be like, it makes another addition to my current shopping list. dave colbran 07788 797 830 http://move.to/rumblefish --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org