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1999-10-13 21:53Re: (idm) Classics and "Must-Haves"
└─ 1999-10-14 16:56Irene McC (idm) derrick may / current IDM
1999-10-15 12:02Dominick Winters Re: (idm) derrick may / current IDM
1999-10-15 16:11Kelley Hackett RE: (idm) derrick may / current IDM
1999-10-15 20:24Joanisse, Robert Re: (idm) derrick may / current IDM
1999-10-16 14:00Ross Balmer Re: (idm) derrick may / current IDM
1999-10-16 16:58Joanisse, Robert RE: (idm) derrick may / current IDM
1999-10-19 16:13Matthew Ford RE: (idm) derrick may / current IDM
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1999-10-13 21:53AeOtaku@aol.comIn a message dated 99-10-13 05:09:08 EDT, you write: << Derrick May = IDM? Such bullshit.
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In a message dated 99-10-13 05:09:08 EDT, you write: << Derrick May = IDM? Such bullshit. When May started doing his thing in the late eighties there was no such thing as fucking IDM. It was techno, and people jacked hard to it at parties, and still do. It is still techno, which is attitude just as much a musical genre. Just because it is superb music and not hardcore gabba does not now make it "intelligent". You are taking the music out of context and placing it in a late nineties setting ... invalid parameter. Someone please back me up on this!! >> Read what I said. I said it was intelligent dance music. Literal definition of words. I went out of my way to say it was not related to current stuff. B.
1999-10-14 16:56Irene McC<color><param>0100,0100,0100</param>On 13 Oct 99, AeOtaku@aol.com wrote re: Re: (idm) Clas
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<color><param>0100,0100,0100</param>On 13 Oct 99, AeOtaku@aol.com wrote re: Re: (idm) Classics and "Must-Haves": <italic><color><param>7F00,0000,7F00</param>> I went out of my way to say it was not related to current stuff. </italic></color>I'd have to disagree - a lot of "current stuff" might be sounding rather different had it not travelled through the route of what's gone before, Derrick May included. Not a flame - just my opinion. I *
1999-10-15 12:02Dominick WintersMy point was that the term IDM came about, in my opinion, because of the popularity of com
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My point was that the term IDM came about, in my opinion, because of the popularity of commercial dance trash, sort of like a campaign. Before the commercial trash thing happened, which I would say was around 91-92, there was no need for the term "intelligent", because it was all underground and all very intelligent anyway. Derrick May, along with everyone else during techno's birth, fall into that bracket. Their music was techno then and still is now.
quoted 6 lines From: "Irene McC" <substar@iafrica.com>>From: "Irene McC" <substar@iafrica.com> >To: AeOtaku@aol.com, idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: (idm) derrick may / current IDM >Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:56:36 +0200 > ><< attach1 >>
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1999-10-15 16:11Kelley HackettTrue, but havent U heard of the word "influence"! > -----Original Message----- > From: Dom
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True, but havent U heard of the word "influence"!
quoted 28 lines -----Original Message-----> -----Original Message----- > From: Dominick Winters [SMTP:worldrecords@hotmail.com] > Sent: Friday, October 15, 1999 7:02 AM > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (idm) derrick may / current IDM > > My point was that the term IDM came about, in my opinion, because of the > popularity of commercial dance trash, sort of like a campaign. Before the > > commercial trash thing happened, which I would say was around 91-92, there > > was no need for the term "intelligent", because it was all underground and > > all very intelligent anyway. Derrick May, along with everyone else during > > techno's birth, fall into that bracket. Their music was techno then and > still is now. > > > >From: "Irene McC" <substar@iafrica.com> > >To: AeOtaku@aol.com, idm@hyperreal.org > >Subject: (idm) derrick may / current IDM > >Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:56:36 +0200 > > > ><< attach1 >> > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
1999-10-15 20:24Joanisse, Robertfor what it's worth, anytime an IDMer asks me what derrick may tracks to check out, i alwa
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for what it's worth, anytime an IDMer asks me what derrick may tracks to check out, i always refer them to the "kao-tic harmony / icon" 12" on transmat: bleeps, pitchbending, ambient washes. probably mayday's least housey and most experimental moment. (especially "icon" -and i'm not talking about the terrible edited version on the innovator comp) i've always thought that this record never got it's due - it would certainly fit right in with AI era Warp stuff. so, uh... check it out. RJ ---Original Message---- Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 12:02:24 GMT From: "Dominick Winters" <worldrecords@hotmail.com> Subject: My point was that the term IDM came about, in my opinion, because of the popularity of commercial dance trash, sort of like a campaign. Before the commercial trash thing happened, which I would say was around 91-92, there was no need for the term "intelligent", because it was all underground and all very intelligent anyway. Derrick May, along with everyone else during techno's birth, fall into that bracket. Their music was techno then and still is now.
quoted 6 lines From: "Irene McC" <substar@iafrica.com>>From: "Irene McC" <substar@iafrica.com> >To: AeOtaku@aol.com, idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: (idm) derrick may / current IDM >Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:56:36 +0200 > ><< attach1 >>
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1999-10-16 14:00Ross BalmerOkay. Oh, easy to get is it? Grrr. Seriously, I have Innovator, which I bought mainly just
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Okay. Oh, easy to get is it? Grrr. Seriously, I have Innovator, which I bought mainly just to get Icon, which I have always thought was astonishingly beatiful, and I was really annoyed when I heard what they'd done to it. It took me years just to find out what it was from a snatch of it I have on a mix-tape. Anyway, I might be able to get hold of a copy of the Virtual Sex compilation. Anybody know if the version on that is the proper full-length one? Ross -----Original Message----- From: Joanisse, Robert <Robert.Joanisse@microcell.ca> To: 'idm' <idm@hyperreal.org> Date: Friday, October 15, 1999 10:13 PM Subject: Re: (idm) derrick may / current IDM
quoted 1 line for what it's worth, anytime an IDMer asks me what derrick may tracks to>for what it's worth, anytime an IDMer asks me what derrick may tracks to
check out, i always refer them to the "kao-tic harmony / icon" 12" on transmat: bleeps, pitchbending, ambient washes. probably mayday's least housey and most experimental moment. (especially "icon" -and i'm not talking about the terrible edited version on the innovator comp) i've always thought that this record never got it's due - it would certainly fit right in with AI era Warp stuff. so, uh... check it out.
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1999-10-16 16:58Joanisse, Robertthe money version is on the original 12: rhythim is rhythim "icon / kao-tic harmony" trans
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the money version is on the original 12: rhythim is rhythim "icon / kao-tic harmony" transmat ms-021 can can get it @ submerge.com for us5$: ob313: does anyone else think that chaz vincent is really carl craig? maybe he's "will thomas" :) RJ
quoted 35 lines -----Original Message-----> -----Original Message----- > From: Ross Balmer [SMTP:ross@tui.co.uk] > Sent: Saturday, October 16, 1999 10:00 AM > To: IDM; Joanisse, Robert > Subject: Re: (idm) derrick may / current IDM > > Okay. Oh, easy to get is it? Grrr. > > Seriously, I have Innovator, which I bought mainly just to get Icon, which I > have always thought was astonishingly beatiful, and I was really annoyed > when I heard what they'd done to it. It took me years just to find out what > it was from a snatch of it I have on a mix-tape. Anyway, I might be able to > get hold of a copy of the Virtual Sex compilation. Anybody know if the > version on that is the proper full-length one? > > Ross > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joanisse, Robert <Robert.Joanisse@microcell.ca> > To: 'idm' <idm@hyperreal.org> > Date: Friday, October 15, 1999 10:13 PM > Subject: Re: (idm) derrick may / current IDM > > > >for what it's worth, anytime an IDMer asks me what derrick may tracks to > check out, i always refer them to the "kao-tic harmony / icon" 12" on > transmat: bleeps, pitchbending, ambient washes. probably mayday's least > housey and most experimental moment. (especially "icon" -and i'm not talking > about the terrible edited version on the innovator comp) i've always > thought that this record never got it's due - it would certainly fit right > in with AI era Warp stuff. so, uh... check it out. > > > >RJ > > >
1999-10-19 16:13Matthew Ford>From: "Joanisse, Robert" <Robert.Joanisse@microcell.ca> >ob313: does anyone else think th
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quoted 3 lines From: "Joanisse, Robert" <Robert.Joanisse@microcell.ca>>From: "Joanisse, Robert" <Robert.Joanisse@microcell.ca> >ob313: does anyone else think that chaz vincent is really carl craig? maybe >he's "will thomas" :)
This is what I thought as well. Maybe I should've asked him this when I met him at Coachella last week...oh well. .MatthewFord. [U.S. Operations / Writer] LOOPZ:The Orbital Zine [ http://www.loopz.co.uk ] Intelligent Electronic Music Paper Zine [Creator / Content Producer] GENREZERO.com [ http://www.genrezero.com ] Online Electronic Music Netcast / Community...Back Online Soon ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com