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1999-10-01 16:37(idm) Trainspotters Anonymous
└─ 1999-10-04 12:40Irene McC Re: (idm) Trainspotters Anonymous
└─ 1999-10-04 22:57solenoid Re: (idm) Trainspotters Anonymous
└─ 1999-10-05 06:12Konstantin Minko NLP approach RE: (idm) Trainspotters Anonymous
1999-10-04 09:48Dominick Winters Re: (idm) Trainspotters Anonymous
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1999-10-01 16:37AeOtaku@aol.comJust exactly how are we defining trainspotter? Is it somebody who loves to collect records
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Just exactly how are we defining trainspotter? Is it somebody who loves to collect records or is just somebody who wants to have rarities to get some sort of phantom status? I thought it was more towards the former, but I suppose it could be used towards good or evil. B.
1999-10-04 12:40Irene McCOn 1 Oct 99, AeOtaku@aol.com wrote re: (idm) Trainspotters Anonymous: > Just exactly how a
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On 1 Oct 99, AeOtaku@aol.com wrote re: (idm) Trainspotters Anonymous:
quoted 1 line Just exactly how are we defining trainspotter?> Just exactly how are we defining trainspotter?
To me it's more somebody who knows the name of the guy who was shaking the maraccas on the third track of some group's hard to find second album. That kind of thing. I *
1999-10-04 22:57solenoidYeah, I think a trainspotter is someone who knows a ridiculous amount of detail about a pa
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Yeah, I think a trainspotter is someone who knows a ridiculous amount of detail about a particular thing/event, and that someone like Lance, who keeps an organized database of information, but doesn't necessarily have fetishistic levels of information. Lance is like a librarian, not a fanatical trainspotter who is into information for information's sake. I think the trainspotters I've met are more likely to know this exhaustive amount of detail of a narrow subject and pride themselves on it, but they don't know who JFK is or where the Baltic Sea is or how to catch a bus. In the 80's, I used to be more like a fanatic/'spotter, but now I find I'm interested in so many isolated aspects of music that now I'm sort of visually oriented and don't care about the details so much as the songs themselves alone, which must sound pretty stupid to the average detail-oriented trainspotter: me: "I like that one record with the black label with the picture of the tree on it and the second track on side A that goes 'click beep'" 'spotter: "Do you mean The XXX Band on the Y Label, catalogue #DC001.3, recorded in Blickyville, ICeland, 1992, before they toured with Current 93?" me again: "Yeah, those guys! Yeah, didn't they do that one in the all-red cover with the robot voice and clicking teapots for drums?...yeah, cool, that one guy is really tall and they use a bunch of Korg boxes. Yeah, they're great, what are they called again, I forgot...? They covered a song by those 4 German guys that did that album with the car noises on it.. Kraftwerk, you know?" 'spotter: "Never heard of them. If they are not on the Y label, or from that area of Iceland, who cares, really..." Solenoid On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Irene McC wrote:
quoted 13 lines On 1 Oct 99, AeOtaku@aol.com wrote re: (idm) Trainspotters Anonymous:> On 1 Oct 99, AeOtaku@aol.com wrote re: (idm) Trainspotters Anonymous: > > > Just exactly how are we defining trainspotter? > > To me it's more somebody who knows the name of the guy who > was shaking the maraccas on the third track of some group's hard > to find second album. > > That kind of thing. > > I > * >
1999-10-05 06:12Konstantin MinkoWell let me tell you first that it is a good reply and description of trainspotter but it
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Well let me tell you first that it is a good reply and description of trainspotter but it seems to me that the effect that you have told us about, the ways you use to get information show them in all not only in music. Neuro-linguistic programming describes it as visual and aural perception which could tell much about you and the things you do. Anyway this type of view can be practiced by all of us if we try. Than a pure trainspotter can be changed to Lance or your mine type of perceprion. I mean that I don't care much about covers usually but if I try it intentionally I might discover much of amusement and entertainment for myself. In other words, thanx for sharing your vision. reAlien
quoted 68 lines -----Original Message-----> -----Original Message----- > From: idm-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:idm-owner@hyperreal.org]On > Behalf Of solenoid > Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 1:57 AM > To: Irene McC > Cc: AeOtaku@aol.com; idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (idm) Trainspotters Anonymous > > > > Yeah, I think a trainspotter is someone who knows a ridiculous amount of > detail about a particular thing/event, and that someone like Lance, who > keeps an organized database of information, but doesn't necessarily have > fetishistic levels of information. Lance is like a librarian, not a > fanatical trainspotter who is into information for information's sake. > > I think the trainspotters I've met are more likely to know this exhaustive > amount of detail of a narrow subject and pride themselves on it, but they > don't know who JFK is or where the Baltic Sea is or how to catch a bus. > > In the 80's, I used to be more like a fanatic/'spotter, but now I > find I'm interested in so many isolated aspects of music that now I'm sort > of visually oriented and don't care about the details so much as the > songs themselves alone, which must sound pretty stupid to the average > detail-oriented trainspotter: > > me: > "I like that one record with the black label with the picture of the tree > on it and the second track on side A that goes 'click beep'" > > 'spotter: > "Do you mean The XXX Band on the Y Label, catalogue #DC001.3, recorded in > Blickyville, ICeland, 1992, before they toured with Current 93?" > > me again: > "Yeah, those guys! Yeah, didn't they do that one in the all-red > cover with the robot voice and clicking teapots for drums?...yeah, cool, > that one guy is really tall and they use a bunch of Korg boxes. Yeah, > they're great, what are they called again, I forgot...? They covered a > song by those 4 German guys that did that album with the car noises on > it.. Kraftwerk, you know?" > > 'spotter: > "Never heard of them. If they are not on the Y label, or from > that area of Iceland, who cares, really..." > > > > Solenoid > > > On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Irene McC wrote: > > > On 1 Oct 99, AeOtaku@aol.com wrote re: (idm) Trainspotters Anonymous: > > > > > Just exactly how are we defining trainspotter? > > > > To me it's more somebody who knows the name of the guy who > > was shaking the maraccas on the third track of some group's hard > > to find second album. > > > > That kind of thing. > > > > I > > * > > > >
1999-10-04 09:48Dominick WintersI noticed a little note on the BoC website about 500 of the US matador CDs not containing
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I noticed a little note on the BoC website about 500 of the US matador CDs not containing the extra track "Happy Cycling", due to a factory mistake. I think that if you were a trainspotter, and were into BoC, you good out of your way to get hold of one. (Not me!)
quoted 12 lines From: AeOtaku@aol.com>From: AeOtaku@aol.com >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: (idm) Trainspotters Anonymous >Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 12:37:18 EDT > >Just exactly how are we defining trainspotter? >Is it somebody who loves to collect records or is just somebody who wants >to >have rarities to get some sort of phantom status? I thought it was more >towards the former, but I suppose it could be used towards good or evil. > >B.
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1999-10-04 16:07Aaron S MichelsonExcerpts from mail: 4-Oct-99 Re: (idm) Trainspotters Ano.. by "Dominick Winters"@hotma > I
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Excerpts from mail: 4-Oct-99 Re: (idm) Trainspotters Ano.. by "Dominick Winters"@hotma
quoted 4 lines I noticed a little note on the BoC website about 500 of the US matador CDs> I noticed a little note on the BoC website about 500 of the US matador CDs > not containing the extra track "Happy Cycling", due to a factory mistake. I > think that if you were a trainspotter, and were into BoC, you good out of > your way to get hold of one.
I got one........ :) It was the promo copy sent by the label. Aaron
1999-10-04 17:20jojo dancer-- Aaron S Michelson <asm2+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: > > I noticed a little note on the BoC
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-- Aaron S Michelson <asm2+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
quoted 12 lines I noticed a little note on the BoC website about> > I noticed a little note on the BoC website about > 500 of the US matador CDs > > not containing the extra track "Happy Cycling", > due to a factory mistake. I > > think that if you were a trainspotter, and were > into BoC, you good out of > > your way to get hold of one. > > I got one........ :) It was the promo copy sent by > the label. > > Aaron
personally, i'd give a foot, all of my teeth, both earlobes, one eye, a year of hard labor & year off my life for the first few things listed on thier discography, but i couldn't care less whether i had the genuine article or a digital recording. i gave away my copy of "music has...." on skam when i bought the matador version with "happy cycling". i have 99% of all of the warp-skam-worm interface-m.a.s.-schematic-spymania.......-style stuff. am i a trainspotter? i don't care much at all about format. isn't it about the music? well, to me it is. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
1999-10-05 01:59Matt Wright>I noticed a little note on the BoC website about 500 of the US matador CDs >not containin
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quoted 4 lines I noticed a little note on the BoC website about 500 of the US matador CDs>I noticed a little note on the BoC website about 500 of the US matador CDs >not containing the extra track "Happy Cycling", due to a factory mistake. I >think that if you were a trainspotter, and were into BoC, you good out of >your way to get hold of one.
Yeah, I have on of those. I had no idea that it happened to 499 CDs as well. I don't feel too special now. Matt
1999-10-05 06:47AeOtaku@aol.comIn a message dated 99-10-04 18:56:36 EDT, you write: << Yeah, I think a trainspotter is so
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In a message dated 99-10-04 18:56:36 EDT, you write: << Yeah, I think a trainspotter is someone who knows a ridiculous amount of detail about a particular thing/event, and that someone like Lance, who keeps an organized database of information, but doesn't necessarily have fetishistic levels of information. Lance is like a librarian, not a fanatical trainspotter who is into information for information's sake. >> Lance is definitely the archivist. Or maybe just a computer program. You can plug in a release, artist, track listing, anything, and get lots of info. And might I say, I'm really glad he does it. Big ups to Lance. So we are saying there's a difference between obsessive music lover and trainspotter? That seems right. B.
1999-10-05 08:18Dominick WintersI think you can rest fairly easy, as the cosmic crofter said, that all those except for tw
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I think you can rest fairly easy, as the cosmic crofter said, that all those except for twoism and boc maxima, were never given to the general public, just their mates. np. phase 6 "deep motion" (benbecula)
quoted 17 lines From: jojo dancer <droidrock@yahoo.com>>From: jojo dancer <droidrock@yahoo.com> >personally, i'd give a foot, all of my teeth, both >earlobes, one eye, a year of hard labor & year off my >life for the first few things listed on thier >discography, but i couldn't care less whether i had >the genuine article or a digital recording. i gave >away my copy of "music has...." on skam when i bought >the matador version with "happy cycling". i have 99% >of all of the warp-skam-worm >interface-m.a.s.-schematic-spymania.......-style >stuff. am i a trainspotter? i don't care much at all >about format. isn't it about the music? well, to me it >is. > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
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1999-10-05 08:41Dominick WintersIt seems strange that this is the case, is it not more likely these are simply UK promos,
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It seems strange that this is the case, is it not more likely these are simply UK promos, since the UK album does not contain happy cycling anyway? Or is it definitely a Matador CD?
quoted 18 lines From: "Matt Wright" <mcwright@lclark.edu>>From: "Matt Wright" <mcwright@lclark.edu> >Reply-To: mcwright@lclark.edu >To: "Dominick Winters" <worldrecords@hotmail.com> >CC: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: (idm) Trainspotters Anonymous >Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 18:59:04 PDT > > >I noticed a little note on the BoC website about 500 of the US matador >CDs > >not containing the extra track "Happy Cycling", due to a factory mistake. > I > >think that if you were a trainspotter, and were into BoC, you good out of > >your way to get hold of one. > >Yeah, I have on of those. I had no idea that it happened to 499 CDs as >well. I don't feel too special now. > >Matt
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1999-10-05 09:14Matt Wright>It seems strange that this is the case, is it not more likely these are >simply UK promos
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quoted 3 lines It seems strange that this is the case, is it not more likely these are>It seems strange that this is the case, is it not more likely these are >simply UK promos, since the UK album does not contain happy cycling anyway? >Or is it definitely a Matador CD?
It definitely is a Matador CD. I really can't explain it but I was a bit annoyed when I realized atrack was missing. It even lists Happy Cycling on all the packaging and the CD itself. Oh well, I bought the Peel Sessions so I have that track. Matt/Klunko ======== email = mcwright@lclarkedu ICQ# = 725387 website = http://metempsychosis.com/klunko