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I've heard lots of very sophisticated dance music that probably would repel most of the people on this list, music which rarely makes it out of the clubs. I'm talking about house music with divas. In many ways lots of this IDM stuff is comparatively much more commercial than some of the best, most interesting underground house. Yes, there's a high-profile brand of house which is unoriginal, retarded, and commercial, but just cuz the "House Explosion vol 9" compilation CD's they sell at tower records are bad doesn't mean that there isn't house out there that would blow your socks off and make Global Goon look like an amateur tinkerer (not hard). Some Basic Channel or Carl Craig crosses into what I'm talking about (in terms of being, at heart, house music), but is that as far towards house this list will venture. Why? It's a monstrous error to say that house/techno/disco/dance club music is somehow less intelligently created or heard than IDM, and I often suspect that the difference boils down to class/race/sexual preference. One could argue pretty convincingly that IDM = dance music for straight white middle class guys who can't dance. There's an entire world of dance music out there which is both booty shaking and very experimental in nature, but it's almost never discussed on the IDM list. It's sad - In fact, I have to rely on my club-DJ friends to even expose me to this stuff. Not that I'm not guilty too - in order to become an aficianado of IDM, all you need is some money and an email account, but to find out about interesting underground house you have to be pretty hardcore about your nightlife habits and probably have to be a professional DJ. If you think about it, IDM is in a way dance music's latest stab at bringing underground electronic dance music out of the exclusive control of professional DJs and into our homes and offices, whereas underground house is still an arcane knowledge to which access is extremely difficult. IDM fans buy records and CDs, while house fans go to clubs, listen, and dance. Sometimes I think this list needs to be a little more house-broken, so to speak. ' - . _ . - ' ^ ' - . _ . - ' ^ ' - . _ . - c h r i s t ø p h e r f ª h e y . _ . - ' ^ ' - . _ . - ' ^ ' - . _ . - ' ^ chrisf@raremedium.com 2 1 2 - 6 3 4 - 6 9 5 0 x 2 5 8 http://www.raremedium.com - ' ^ ' - . _ . - ' ^ ' - . _ . - ' ^ ' - .

quoted 2 lines Sometimes I think this list needs to be a little more house-broken, so to

> Sometimes I think this list needs to be a little more house-broken, so to > speak.

..in total agreement.. certainly, house music is generally closer in style to the original wave of new electronic music, in terms of its repetitivity, whereas so much of the stuff talked about on this list is nothing but prog rock with computers. idm /did/ have a groove, once upon a time. <waves>

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> Sometimes I think this list needs to be a little more house-broken, so to > speak.

Then allow me to post about a couple of house records that I think are fantastic: Mike Grant - "It's a Detroit Thing" (Moods & Grooves) "Hypnotize" didn't exactly; while a well-built track, I didn't care for the vocal bits and just didn't feel the overall vibe. But the B2 "Sunlight" - hold on, now that's it! "Deep" barely does justice to the amount of bass on this record; it's a living breathing organism! The perfectly filtered pads and synth lead accent the moody, pushing feel of this killer. Buy it for this track! Theo Parrish - "Dance Of the Drunken Drums" (Sound Signature) The hi-hat rolls on one side of this house record make me think of drum-n-bass; the sequenced piano on the other makes me think of As One. Dope. These two might be hard to find; try http://www.recordtime.com. Herbert - "Around The House" (Phonography) It's around a year old now, but still totally worth tracking down. There's also a new 12" on Phonography with a remix from the album, plus another track or two (haven't purchased it yet). This one's available on CD, for all those who don't do vinyl. Housebreakin on a Friday afternoon, BVL / dj marathon -- AppNet MidWest Interactive [formerly Sigma6] / http://www.appnet.com dj sets at: http://www.smallfish.co.uk/pondlife/issue3.html http://www.detroitpeoplemover.com

On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, William VanLoo wrote:

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> Herbert - "Around The House" (Phonography) > > It's around a year old now, but still totally worth tracking down. There's > also a new 12" on Phonography with a remix from the album, plus another track > or two (haven't purchased it yet). This one's available on CD, for all those > who don't do vinyl.

this is a goodie. and for those of you who like your house music swallowed, digested and puked back out by dinobots: check out herbert's project "RadioBoy" !! chris. music for lunchpails . wednesdays 7-9pm . kuci 88.9fm . www.kuci.org ..one second in your presence is a miracle of love..

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> > speak. > > Then allow me to post about a couple of house records that I think are > fantastic: >

I'll put in a word for the Hawke - Namaquadisco fulllength from Hardkiss (sunburn), hard and psychedelic at times, melodic at others, interesting throughout! John