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2000-05-03 07:02richard devine [idm] <bootlegs>;'
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2000-05-03 07:02richard devineBBC brings you a transmission from our allies at Schematic Music Company, they may be reac
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BBC brings you a transmission from our allies at Schematic Music Company, they may be reached at <us@schematic.net> I just wanted to make you all aware of something. A store in Miami called Yesterday & Today Dance Music is selling a large selection of bootleg compilations. The ones we know of are: Gescom/Autechre mixes, Autechre Peel Sessions 2, Autechre Live, Gescom Minidisc, Black Dog/Plaid rare remixes, Aphex Twin "Words and Music", Boards Of Canada Live@Warp10, Nav Katze, Various Aphex Twin Live CD's, a random Rephlex Compilation without track listing, Black Dog Peel Sessions, DMX krew, various Mego artists, Arovane, Phonem, Mark Hadley, Skam amongst others. They must have 10 to 15 different stacks of bootlegs for sale at $20 each. The fellow responsible is named Carlos Rincon (webmaster@ytmusic.com). To our knowledge, he has been selling them for well over a year. He designs his own covers, using the label name "Popcorn Records" or some other name, and even includes fake UPC's. There are other bootlegs they are selling or have sold that we don't know about - just know that if you are an artist or label within the community of the above mentioned - Carlos and Y&T are not to be trusted. One example of the CD's they're selling is an Autechre cd containing the "8AE" mix, Jail of Freedom mix, "Any number between 1 and 17", "go sheep" on Clear, The Beast remix on Mowax, "Viral Rival" on Skam, and a live Autechre track all designed on a mock label called "Transient". They must have 10 to 15 different stacks of bootlegs for sale at $20 each. The fellow responsible is named Carlos Rincon (webmaster@ytmusic.com) To our knowledge, he has been selling them for well over a year. He designs his own covers, using the label name "Popcorn Records" or some other name, including a fake UPC. They have also been designing and selling Warp, Apollo, and Designers Republic T-shirts. Some of them include Sun Electric on Apollo, Autechre's Basscadet box set design, and Aphex Twin designs, though it was some time ago since we've seen the shirts. This is not political. We have had a good working relationship with this store as they sell our records and have from the beginning. We hooked them up with Forced Exposure, our sole distribution and production link, with whom they have a consignment deal. In order to obtain proof for Forced Exposure, Melanie, a Schematic member and DJ went into the store to purchase a couple cd's. When they discovered who she was, they berated her and had her removed by the police, whom to say the least are clueless about copyright infringement. She was almost arrested for standing up for all of us. In the process, she kindly suggested that they stop selling them, but they refused. Carlos' excuse is that he's helping the music industry. He sent us a letter concerning the matter, here's an excerpt: "Do you guys pay for all the licenses of software you use to make music? This acts are by far worst than the ones you are claiming we do, I am also convinced you guys own a lot of copyrighted illegal copies of music so who are you guys trying to fool? If you guys hate our store please JUST don't come in and please don't waste our time with these stupid acts, We work hard and respect what we have, if you guys are not successfully economically with your label blame it on the quality and appeal of your music and the lack of support for it." We have asked Forced Exposure to stop selling them Schematic material and suggested they stop selling to them all together. Again, this is not political. Y&T was the first store to ever sell Schematic Records, but unfortunately they hired a bootlegger. It hurts our reputation and it hurts you too. I would strongly suggest to anyone offended to support us by emailing Carlos with your thoughts. We will personally vouch for every word we have said. If you are in contact with any of the other artists or labels mentioned or affected, please forward this message this to them (Skam, Mo'Wax, etc.) Thanks for your time, Josh Kay and Romulo Del Castillo Schematic Music Company --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-05-08 20:10Zelixer@aol.com> Carlos and Y&T are not to be trusted. eh? I for one can vouch for the trust and class se
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quoted 1 line Carlos and Y&T are not to be trusted.> Carlos and Y&T are not to be trusted.
eh? I for one can vouch for the trust and class service of Y&T and know several other who would too. Other than the top selection and fair prices, they are some of the most helpful and friendly people i've dealt with. I've seen a few bootlegs on the catalogs, but i simply ignore them. It's really down to the individuals choice of what to do in a situation like that. I mean if they want something bad enough without paying ridculous prices on ebay for the original, they could just as easily d/l an mp3 somewhere for free. ain't that how it works? .e --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org