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1999-09-02 06:43Arthur PurvisSome of these are old but whatever. I acquired them all recently. Swell: Surgeon - Force a

From:: Arthur Purvis <abpurvis@phoenix.Princeton.EDU>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 02:43:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject:: (idm) some things that are swell and some things that are not

Some of these are old but whatever. I acquired them all recently. Swell: Surgeon - Force and Form (tresor) Less bangy, more tribal and textured. Like giant pistons sorta. Clubby techno turned on its head. Fantastic. Way better than Balance (which I liked). If his records improve/get more unique at the rate they have been, in 2 albums he'll produce the second coming. fx randomiz - goflex (a-musik) I like it even more than Mouse on Mars - Instrumentals (well, except for Chromantic). Crunchier, tons of really odd noises, but still really playful and great. cristian vogel - specific momentific (mille plateaux) Like anthony child, vogel makes 4/4 techno that doesn't sound like anyone else. Hypnotic and dark (sometimes)... really odd. Not as good as some 12" tracks I've heard but really great on the overall. various - microscopic sound (caipirinha) all the usual beep/click/beep/click etc suspects (except pansonic... which i don't really understand). really, really odd (even if you listen to a couple of the people who appear). really, really good. the goem track is my fave, along with the digital one. some of the bass has to be heard to be believed - you can feel it more than you can hear it. trance inducing. black lung - uncomfortable questions for comfortable people (helix) really dark techno with a lot of BANG. Beepy. A few dronier bits ("the hive"). I'm pretty damn fond of it. Various Artists - 8,8.5,9 (fat cat) Not the remix one (not sure if I got the numbers right). Finally bought this, and it blows every other CR/BC record I've heard right out of the water. F'ing incredible. Especially 8. So different... so not normal... soooo nice. crashing waves of thick, reverbed textures that repeat in a very subtle and very missable way. friend who doesn't like much beyond whitney houston/shania twain/cher house remixes thought it was the coolest thing he'd ever heard. Third Eye Foundation - You Guys Kill Me (merge) Ok so I had this a while ago and then I lost it and I got a new one. It's absolutely mindshatteringly brilliant. His best ever (though not by much). Sorta swell but sorta not: Kit Clayton - repetition and nonsense (drop beat) total chain reaction/basic channel ripoff that isn't as good as the originals by a long shot but isn't too too bad. The first track sounds like the various artists 12" but not 1/10th as good. Unswell: That dumb new u-ziq record that is boring as hell. Same old same old... that awful carl craig innerzone orchestra record which is, well, awful. Really, really offensively awful. that lamb record with that annoying girl singing over what would otherwise be good tracks. ick. the new air record premiers symptomes which is lacking everything that made the first one so good. the last track is harder edged and funkier and a little better, but the rest is worthless. almost as bad as that comp of other source recording artists. Does anyone know who max kahlen is? I bought a 12" by him for a couple bucks on a whim. had a sticker talking about thomas brinkmann supported labels etc. haven't listened yet tho. --- the humble abbott arthur purvis set his hand hereto

1999-09-02 14:07danielOn Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Arthur Purvis wrote: > Some of these are old but whatever. I acquired

From:: daniel <daniel@eliteware.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 09:07:54 -0500 (CDT)
Subject:: Re: (idm) some things that are swell and some things that are not
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On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Arthur Purvis wrote:

quoted 1 line Some of these are old but whatever. I acquired them all recently.

> Some of these are old but whatever. I acquired them all recently.

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quoted 3 lines that awful carl craig innerzone orchestra record which is, well, awful.

> > that awful carl craig innerzone orchestra record which is, well, awful. > Really, really offensively awful.

You know I thought the same thing when I first got it. I was like, what the hell is this? I had the innerzone orchestra remixes of bug in the bass bin (which were fantastic) but the album did not sound like those. Programmed is a difficult album to listen to. There isn't any messed up dsp effects or odd programming; it is just difficult. So the other day I finally sat down with it and played it out on my home stereo (instead of in my car). And I found myself liking it. In the end, the album is an enigma. It is jazz, it is techno, it is something else. But now it works for me. A difficult album with normal sounds. Lastly, the album had a lot of hype. I don't think it lives up to that but it is a nice attempt to fuse different genres. in short it is a grower... your mileage may (and will) vary... -daniel: Head Monkey: Mad Monkey Records: http://monkey.eliteware.com

1999-09-02 14:05martind> On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Arthur Purvis wrote: >> Some of these are old but whatever. I acqui

From:: martin <martin.wood@advent-comm.co.uk>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 15:05:57 +0100
Subject:: Re[2]: (idm) some things that are swell and some things that are not
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d> On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Arthur Purvis wrote:

quoted 1 line Some of these are old but whatever. I acquired them all recently.

>> Some of these are old but whatever. I acquired them all recently.

d> <snip>

quoted 3 lines that awful carl craig innerzone orchestra record which is, well, awful.

>> >> that awful carl craig innerzone orchestra record which is, well, awful. >> Really, really offensively awful.

d> You know I thought the same thing when I first got it. I was like, what d> the hell is this? I had the innerzone orchestra remixes of bug in the d> bass bin (which were fantastic) but the album did not sound like those. d> Programmed is a difficult album to listen to. There isn't any messed up d> dsp effects or odd programming; it is just difficult. So the other day I d> finally sat down with it and played it out on my home stereo (instead of d> in my car). And I found myself liking it. In the end, the album is an d> enigma. It is jazz, it is techno, it is something else. But now it works d> for me. A difficult album with normal sounds. d> Lastly, the album had a lot of hype. I don't think it lives up to that d> but it is a nice attempt to fuse different genres. d> in short it is a grower... d> your mileage may (and will) vary... yeah...i thought it was boring...nothing to groove to... the only time people in the room took notice was when the chords from at les kicked in, or bug in the bassbin... everything else went unnoticed...

1999-09-02 14:26danielmartin <martin.wood@advent-comm.co.uk> wrote: > yeah...i thought it was boring...nothing t

From:: daniel <daniel@eliteware.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 09:26:34 -0500 (CDT)
Subject:: Re: Re[2]: (idm) some things that are swell and some things that are not
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martin <martin.wood@advent-comm.co.uk> wrote:

quoted 6 lines yeah...i thought it was boring...nothing to groove to...

> yeah...i thought it was boring...nothing to groove to... > the only time people in the room took notice was when the chords from > at les kicked in, or bug in the bassbin... > everything else went unnoticed... > >

I think that was part of my initial problem. I expected a groove. It is Carl Craig and because of that you expect techno. It isn't that. A very bold move on his part. I think it will get the same criticisms, likes and dislikes that Tom Jenkinson gets on his "jazz" projects -daniel: Head Monkey: Mad Monkey Records: http://monkey.eliteware.com

1999-09-02 18:56Lance @ InaudibleAt 02:43 AM 9/2/99 -0400, you wrote: >Some of these are old but whatever. I acquired them

From:: Lance @ Inaudible <mclance@nacs.net>
To:: Arthur Purvis <abpurvis@phoenix.Princeton.EDU>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 14:56:15 -0400
Subject:: Re: (idm) some things that are swell and some things that are not

At 02:43 AM 9/2/99 -0400, you wrote:

quoted 6 lines Some of these are old but whatever. I acquired them all recently.

>Some of these are old but whatever. I acquired them all recently. > >fx randomiz - goflex (a-musik) > I like it even more than Mouse on Mars - Instrumentals (well, except for >Chromantic). Crunchier, tons of really odd noises, but still really >playful and great.

One of my alltime favorite releases! I cant get enough of this one and am chomping at the bit in anticipation of new FX Randomiz material. I believe the next Sonig release will be a new Randomiz ep!!!! for those who dont have any FX randomiz yet, there are some sound- bites at: http://www.a-musik.com as well as on the mdos site at: http://www.mdos.at/detail-bylabel.php3?pid=457

quoted 7 lines various - microscopic sound (caipirinha)

>various - microscopic sound (caipirinha) > all the usual beep/click/beep/click etc suspects (except pansonic... >which i don't really understand). really, really odd (even if you listen >to a couple of the people who appear). really, really good. the goem >track is my fave, along with the digital one. some of the bass has to be >heard to be believed - you can feel it more than you can hear it. trance >inducing.

Yes definitely a cool comp compiled by the 12k label headman & prolific producer Taylor Deupree. If you like this one then you'll love the 12k label compilation called .AIFF. It's very much in the same style with a lot of similar artists. I believe there are some soundbites at http://www.12k.com

quoted 6 lines Various Artists - 8,8.5,9 (fat cat)

>Various Artists - 8,8.5,9 (fat cat) > Not the remix one (not sure if I got the numbers right). Finally bought >this, and it blows every other CR/BC record I've heard right out of the >water. F'ing incredible. Especially 8. So different... so not normal... >soooo nice. crashing waves of thick, reverbed textures that repeat in a >very subtle and very missable way.

I agree. A bc/cr-flavored classic! Deep shifting textures that you cant help but get lost in...

quoted 5 lines Sorta swell but sorta not:

>Sorta swell but sorta not: >Kit Clayton - repetition and nonsense (drop beat) > total chain reaction/basic channel ripoff that isn't as good as the >originals by a long shot but isn't too too bad. The first track sounds >like the various artists 12" but not 1/10th as good.

I agree that this one isnt as good as the Various Artists 12" but a lot of the bc/cr records pale in comparison to the v/a 12". i do like kit's repetition & nonesense record. it's right in with the style of his cytrax releases with a few mimic & the model-flavored tracks in there as well. i disagree that kit's sound is a bc/cr ripoff but he's definitely heavily influenced by it. Overall kit's repetition & nonesense is a solid record. Also check Kit's recent 12" called Nek Purpalet on pole's new Scape label called. This ep is a little more downtempo than kit's dropbeat record but still well worth getting.

quoted 2 lines that awful carl craig innerzone orchestra record which is, well, awful.

>that awful carl craig innerzone orchestra record which is, well, awful. >Really, really offensively awful.

I disagree with you on this one. the innerzone orchestra record is not awful, it's just very different. For me, it's mixes wonderfully in a jazzy techno set offering a real change of pace. The album definitely has it's ups and downs but, for the most part, i find it very entertaining. But to each his own...

quoted 3 lines Does anyone know who max kahlen is? I bought a 12" by him for a couple

>Does anyone know who max kahlen is? I bought a 12" by him for a couple >bucks on a whim. had a sticker talking about thomas brinkmann supported >labels etc. haven't listened yet tho.

Max Kahlen is a cologne producer & friend of Thomas Brinkmann. His first release was a 12" called Uwerk (or something similar) on his own Strom label. He has a tight minimal cologne sound very much in the Profan, Studio 1, Max/Ernst style. I first heard Uwerk when brinkmann dropped it on his dual tonearm setup during his live performance in cleveland last november. i was hooked after hearing that. for those of you who downloaded the thomas brinkmann live mp3 from the bent crayon website, the max kahlen track in one of the first two or three records he played so you can check it out for yourself. supposedly there is a second kahlen record out on strom but i have yet to see or hear it anywhere. it's definitely on my "must buy" list based on the strength of his first 12" if you want a little more info on max check his official (but somewhat out of date) website at: http://listen.to/strom -->-Lance--- mclance@nacs.net lance@inaudible.com p.o. box 450715 westlake, ohio 44145 united states

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