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quoted 1 line For various (mostly travel-related) treasons I haven't kept up with

>> For various (mostly travel-related) treasons I haven't kept up with

thislist

quoted 2 lines for the last few months. I just went grep'ing through the last 3 months'

>> for the last few months. I just went grep'ing through the last 3 months' >> worth of posts and all the discussion I could find on Andrea

Parker's"Kiss My

quoted 1 line Arp" album was Brock Phillips a month ago wanting to know about an

>> Arp" album was Brock Phillips a month ago wanting to know about an

instrumental

quoted 1 line version of it, because he didn't want o buy it since he "heard vocals

>> version of it, because he didn't want o buy it since he "heard vocals

were

quoted 1 line pretty heavy on it." And other than that, nothing.

>> pretty heavy on it." And other than that, nothing.

quoted 2 lines Well, I don't know you from a hole in the wall, but welcome back and all...

>Well, I don't know you from a hole in the wall, but welcome back and all... >I think the fact that no one has discussed it (nor responded to your

e-mail)

quoted 1 line definitely says something about the LP.

>definitely says something about the LP.

quoted 1 line Personally, it bored me to tears - just like everything else Parker has

>Personally, it bored me to tears - just like everything else Parker has

ever

quoted 3 lines done. Her only release that doesn't immediately put me to sleep is the

>done. Her only release that doesn't immediately put me to sleep is the >Ballbreaker 10". Her DJ-Kicks compilation was pretty damn good, but 95% of >that isn't her music, so...

IMHO, I find that the things that aren't discussed much on this list (ISAN, Andrea Parker, and all things Fat Cat or Touch come to mind) are generally more exciting than most things normally under discussion. Anyway, can anyone comment on differences between the artwork on the MoWax and Toys Factory versions?? I only have the Japanese version and was wondering if the MoWax version was worth acquiring? Thanks, Mike

On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Michael Stein wrote:

quoted 4 lines IMHO, I find that the things that aren't discussed much on this list (ISAN,

> IMHO, I find that the things that aren't discussed much on this list (ISAN, > Andrea Parker, and all things Fat Cat or Touch come to mind) are generally > more exciting than most things normally under discussion. >

I agree, I am supprised that fat cat does not get mentioned more. However, I have my theories as to why: 1. no definite sound. They put out what they want to put out. 2. span many genres 3. more experimental in nature 4. Fat Cat is not really into the crunchy/strange beat/dsp influenced electronics that has become popular in recent months (years?) 5. release to much. Hard to keep up and keep it straight. Either way though, people should pay attention to them. notable recent fat cat release (thought not idm): transient waves - sonic narcotic (or something like that, working from memory). A little short but if you liked their bliss out material pick this up at once. -daniel Head Monkey Mad Monkey Records http://monkey.eliteware.com

errr... trying to work out the connection between FatCat and Andrea Parker??? anyone explain this one to me? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

well there was no intentional linkage. The original post was about Andrea Parker but as an unrelated topic the poster mentioned Fat Cat (within the same message that was about A.P). I responded to the topic of Fat Cat not A.P. Because of that I changed the subject line; so that people would know it was about Fat Cat and not AP. common practice.. though it was odd to see there was an actual linkage. -daniel Head Monkey Mad Monkey Records http://monkey.eliteware.com On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, cycle path wrote:

quoted 11 lines errr...

> errr... > > trying to work out the connection between FatCat and Andrea Parker??? > > anyone explain this one to me? > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com >

Prof.Ludlow and Dr.Smith is sposed to be Mr.Weaherall, Inky Blacknuss used to record for Sabrettes (one of Weatherall's labels), Andrea parker used be in Inky blackness with Alex Knight & Ian Tregoning.... And Alex Knight is part owner of FatCat records... ;> Dan.

quoted 3 lines trying to work out the connection

>trying to work out the connection >between FatCat and Andrea Parker??? >anyone explain this one to me?

quoted 6 lines I have fat cat compilation CD called

>I have fat cat compilation CD called >Across Uneven Terrain, which >presents many styles of fat cat, >but I don't necessary have to like >all those styles (post-rock = the >most boring music style/genre ever?)

Listen to the Immense track on the Uneven Terrain LP, this is an amazing 'Post-Rock' tune, and its far from dull.... slowly builds to a humming guitar strumming end.... I would thoroughly recommend getting hold of the Immense 12" on FatCat, best bit of post-rock since the Mice Parade cd on Bubblecore. Dan.

didn't she used to work at their record store? cycle path wrote:

quoted 9 lines errr...

> errr... > > trying to work out the connection between FatCat and Andrea Parker??? > > anyone explain this one to me? > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

-- Andrew Duke's In The Mix show590:Jamie Lidell & Wooly/589:Vogel & Dr. Rendezvous/588:Wang & Vaz/587:Theorem & Baby Pop/586:Sicko & Nova/ listen on Cognition: http://www.techno.ca/cognition

doh! please pardon my quick post on this, right after i sent it i clued in re: the proper info that was just posted. urgh! andrew duke Andrew Duke Cognition/In The Mix wrote:

quoted 20 lines didn't she used to work at their record

> didn't she used to work at their record > store? > > cycle path wrote: > > > errr... > > > > trying to work out the connection between FatCat and Andrea Parker??? > > > > anyone explain this one to me? > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > -- > Andrew Duke's In The Mix show590:Jamie Lidell > & Wooly/589:Vogel & Dr. Rendezvous/588:Wang & > Vaz/587:Theorem & Baby Pop/586:Sicko & Nova/ > listen on Cognition: http://www.techno.ca/cognition

-- Andrew Duke's In The Mix show590:Jamie Lidell & Wooly/589:Vogel & Dr. Rendezvous/588:Wang & Vaz/587:Theorem & Baby Pop/586:Sicko & Nova/ listen on Cognition: http://www.techno.ca/cognition

To keep on with this one... re: didn't she used to work at their record store? no!!!...not that i know of... and, re: 4. Fat Cat is not really into the crunchy/strange beat/dsp influenced electronics that has become popular in recent months (years?) FatCat have released quite a few IDM/crunchy/strange beat 12"s including two various artist 12s with remixes from Pole / Autechre / Funkstorung.... A Funkstorung 12" with remixes of Bjork.... A series of electronic based split 12s from artists including VVM, Third Eye Foundation, Req, Team Doyobi, Gescom to name a few...! Oh, and keep eyes peeled for future releases by Process, Dat Politics and Kid 606! :) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, cycle path wrote:

quoted 15 lines To keep on with this one...

> To keep on with this one... > > re: didn't she used to work at their record store? > > no!!!...not that i know of... > > and, re: > > 4. Fat Cat is not really into the crunchy/strange beat/dsp influenced > electronics that has become popular in recent months (years?) > > FatCat have released quite a few IDM/crunchy/strange beat 12"s > including two various artist 12s with remixes from Pole / Autechre / > Funkstorung.... > A Funkstorung 12" with remixes of Bjork....

I agree they have released a few things. But their sound cannot really be compared to schematic or any of the smiliar type labels. I am not saying they are not into electronic sounds. They tend to lean towards the more experimental side of the spectrum. They are also really into noise it seems (Merzbow,Amm, Janik Schaefer etc..). Even the various artists remixes sounded more like Various artists than the remixers. The Funkstorung 12" though does fit into the IDM/crunchy/strange beat territory.

quoted 2 lines A series of electronic based split 12s from artists including VVM,

> A series of electronic based split 12s from artists including VVM, > Third Eye Foundation,

both of which I consider more noise oriented than not.

quoted 1 line Req

>Req

req is really under appreciated. But I thik this once again fits into another category. That of experimental hip hop. Which the label seems to have a thing for (see Live Human). just seems to me that when Fat Cat does something the releases are more left field... but all that could be personal bias. either way it is nice to finally see some talk about this label. -daniel Head Monkey Mad Monkey Records http://monkey.eliteware.com

Matters not Daniel: I believe both to be very good Artist. However, I havent much from both, orther artist such as, yep u guessed it Stasis and David Morely are Fcking slamming sooo.......i would venture that Both FatCat and Parker are of the similar Caliber. In other words, its all good Dan.!

quoted 33 lines -----Original Message-----

> -----Original Message----- > From: daniel [SMTP:daniel@eliteware.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 8:53 AM > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (idm) Fat Cat (Was RE: Andrea Parker) > > well there was no intentional linkage. The original post was about Andrea > Parker but as an unrelated topic the poster mentioned Fat Cat (within the > same message that was about A.P). I responded to the topic of Fat Cat not > A.P. Because of that I changed the subject line; so that people would > know it was about Fat Cat and not AP. > > common practice.. though it was odd to see there was an actual linkage. > > -daniel > Head Monkey > Mad Monkey Records > http://monkey.eliteware.com > > On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, cycle path wrote: > > > errr... > > > > trying to work out the connection between FatCat and Andrea Parker??? > > > > anyone explain this one to me? > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > >

quoted 3 lines just seems to me that when Fat Cat does something the releases are more

> just seems to me that when Fat Cat does something the releases are more > left field... but all that could be personal bias. > either way it is nice to finally see some talk about this label.

i think i like the idea behind fatcat more than the music that they put out. every so often i'll buy something from them which i'll like (the recent s^jn side of a split 12" & the various artists 12"s come to mind) but i don't really care for most of their other acts (at least from what i've heard on 'across uneven terrain'.) too much british post rock, which i think is even more painful to listen to than american post rock (which is already quite a pain for all i'm concerned, but let's not start _that_ thread). they're a label where you're usually better off listening first, then buying. however, the music is always quality stuff, & i appreciate the fact that they're one of the few 'outsider' labels in the idm world, which, as daniel mentioned, don't stick to a certain genre & beat it to death but instead take chances on unknown acts which produce leftfield music. i don't like it doesn't mean it's not good. :) -- david

david@evolutiontech.com wrote:

quoted 10 lines i think i like the idea behind fatcat more than the music that they put

> i think i like the idea behind fatcat more than the music that they put >out. every so often i'll buy something from them which i'll like >but i don't really care for most of their other acts (at least from what > i've heard on 'across uneven terrain'.) too much british post rock, > which i think is even more painful to listen to than american post rock > (which is already quite a pain for all i'm concerned, but let's not > start _that_ thread). they're a label where you're usually better off > recent s^jn side of a split 12" & the various artists 12"s come to mind) > listening first, then buying. >

I agree. Conceptually I think that fat cat is one of the best labels out there. In some ways I have modeled mmr after them. IE the desire not to be easily classified (which I hope came across on the ETM comp). However, Fat Cat is more extreme in their process. Which leads to the try before you buy it premise. With some labels I buy on sight but I have never been able to do that with fat cat. You never know what you are going to get. But that is a strong attraction for me.

quoted 6 lines however, the music is always quality stuff, & i appreciate the fact that

> however, the music is always quality stuff, & i appreciate the fact that > they're one of the few 'outsider' labels in the idm world, which, as > daniel mentioned, don't stick to a certain genre & beat it to death but > instead take chances on unknown acts which produce leftfield music. i > don't like it doesn't mean it's not good. :) >

agreed. Even the items I did not like were done very well. Their noise releases have always left me cold but I am told by those into noise they are quite good. One thing I read recently was that the split series was going to be slowed down and concentration was going to be placed upon releasing 1 CD a month until December. I know that there is a forthcoming grain CD as well. -daniel

quoted 2 lines Re: (idm) Fat Cat (Was RE: Andrea Parker)

>Re: (idm) Fat Cat (Was RE: Andrea Parker) >Prof.Ludlow and Dr.Smith is sposed to be Mr.Weaherall, Inky Blacknuss

Prof.Ludlow and Dr.Smith is the same Croydon king behing Grain (also on FatCat). And if you see the old studio where he did all of it i'm sure you will impressed. BTW, No conection w/ Weatherall.

quoted 2 lines didn't she used to work at their record

>didn't she used to work at their record >store?

Afaik, no, Andrea had never worked in the shop. She was a customer and is just friends with Alex and Dave. cheers, G ______________________________________________________ DJ Guilherme Menegon Sao Paulo, Brasil email:<tekkno3@hotmail.com> !Experimental! ______________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com