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As someone wrote... <<In the electronic/post-rock vein, I would recommend Matmos' The WestEP;>> I really think this is one of the best examples I've heard of incorporating post rock elements w/ electronics. there's a nice interaction between the live and programmed elements and its very very musical. The synthesis of these elements just doesnt happen on stuff like tortoise, godspeed, trans am, etc. Trans Am I think is a good example of what generally tries to pass as "post-rock": you basically get some moogs w/ the standard rock band backing and basically play rock songs with 'em. The drummer attempts to play beats that sound like programmed hip-hop drums (or '83 electro) and there's nothing too interesting going on. Conversly, I think something like the last Add N to X is a better example of what post rock should sound like (conceptually speaking... I think if anyone from that band heard their music described as post rock they'd throw a shit fit) There are lots of live drums (some played by the Stereolab drummer)and they come across as straight a lot of the time, but there's enough fidgeting to give it that nice "its been fucked w/ through technology" angle... yet another example for me is the weekend album by kreidler... step 1 - people play guitar. step 2 - people play people playing guitar on the sampler. this is post rock. ___________________________________________ FREE voicemail. Plus free email and fax...all in one place. SIGN UP NOW! http://www.onebox.com

quoted 3 lines Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 10:04:28 -0700

> Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 10:04:28 -0700 > From: "elk bot" <elkbot@onebox.com> > Subject: (idm) Re: oval and post-rock

quoted 1 line yet another example for me is the weekend album by kreidler... step 1 -

> yet another example for me is the weekend album by kreidler... step 1 -

people play guitar. step 2 - people play people playing guitar on the sampler. this is post rock. Yeah, this would be my idea of post-rock: that the music be fucked with multiple times by humans and machines, until the line between the two smears into fuzz. Someone should mention Soul Coughing: I'm not really aware of anyone who uses the sampler like a live instrument quite like Mark De Gli Antoni. Lukas

On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Lukas Bergstrom wrote:

quoted 3 lines Someone should mention Soul Coughing: I'm not really aware of anyone

> Someone should mention Soul Coughing: I'm not really aware of anyone > who uses the sampler like a live instrument quite like Mark De Gli > Antoni.

i think the reason people haven't mentioned soul coughing is because people tend to get turned off by doughty's voice. i know i can't stand, which is a shame, because they do do some fantastic things with samplers. * #### a disturbance in a system. #### laerm. @voicenet.com ##:# "i don't like much really, do i? but what i do like i love passionately." icq:5562209

On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, laerm wrote: } On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Lukas Bergstrom wrote: } } > Someone should mention Soul Coughing: I'm not really aware of anyone } > who uses the sampler like a live instrument quite like Mark De Gli } > Antoni. } } i think the reason people haven't mentioned soul coughing is because } people tend to get turned off by doughty's voice. i know i can't stand, } which is a shame, because they do do some fantastic things with samplers. Has anyone heard De Gli Antoni's solo album, Horse Tricks? I haven't, but if he sticks with the sampler stuff, it could be what all you Doughty-haters (I'm definitely not one of 'em) are looking for. sorta idm content: Has anybody attempted a translation of the track titles on Bogdan's Samurai Math Beats? I know there are numbers back there with what could be names, but I can't translate 'em. Jeremy np: Sparc 1 cooling fan 'cause somebody swiped my discman :(

quoted 2 lines Someone should mention Soul Coughing: I'm not really aware of anyone who

> Someone should mention Soul Coughing: I'm not really aware of anyone who > uses the sampler like a live instrument quite like Mark De Gli Antoni.

And so the thread comes full circle!

quoted 10 lines Subject: Re: (idm) Re: Mouse On Mars

> Subject: Re: (idm) Re: Mouse On Mars > Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 12:36:28 -0400 > From: William VanLoo <wdvanloo@sigma6.com> > > I'm sure all of you, even those (lance :) who buy tons of music every > month, get especially attached to certain albums. For me lately, it's been > these 3: > > Beth Orton - Central Reservation > Soul Coughing - El Oso > Oval - Systemisch

I think Soul Coughing's last album is just great. I love the way they've embrace drum-n-bass but put their own "rawk" spin on it. So what does Mark De Gli Antoni do with the sampler? How does he use it as a live instrument? I've yet to attend a SC live show. Thanks, Bill -- Sigma6 Interactive Media (a division of AppNet) / http://www.sigma6.com http://www.detroitpeoplemover.com