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Re: (idm) music wanting to be free

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1999-08-06 16:23Re: (idm) music wanting to be free
1999-08-06 16:29david turgeon Re: (idm) music wanting to be free
1999-08-06 16:37Tenfly Re: (idm) music wanting to be free
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1999-08-06 16:23BigKumquat@aol.com<< Hmmm...do you mean because of digital distributuion? With all the major labels working
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<< Hmmm...do you mean because of digital distributuion? With all the major labels working out "secure" formats for downloadable music, I can't imagine free music happening any time soon. Curious if your friend knows some secret development I haven't heard...>> Well, of course my friend's comment was somewhat wry, but I do believe that there is something to it. Yes, he was referring to digital distribution. I'm not sure that the "secure" format thing can work out. As long as the major labels continue to release music on CD, folks will be able to take that music and turn it into digital files which can be sent/downloaded/uploaded on the web. Sure, the lawyers will try to fight this, but I believe that the sheer vastness and chaotic nature of the internet cannot be thwarted. Even if the CD's have some sort of copy protection feature to prevent digital transfer, an analog copy of a CD track will still sound pretty good. It seems pretty clear that the music industry power structure established in the 20th century will be dismantled in the 21st, as the means of production, distribution and promotion are delivered into the hands of the people thanks to information technology developments. I for one will be partying in the streets as we burn David Geffen in effigy. Brimming with insurrectional rhetoric, Fred Church bigkumquat@aol.com http://www.thelocus.com/kumquat (free music here)
1999-08-06 16:29david turgeon> It seems pretty clear that the music industry power structure established in the 20th ce
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quoted 1 line It seems pretty clear that the music industry power structure established in the 20th cent> It seems pretty clear that the music industry power structure established in the 20th century will be dismantled in the 21st, as the means of production, distribution and promotion are delivered into the hands of the people thanks to information technology developments. I for one will be partying in the streets as we burn David Geffen in effigy.
one of my favorite cd covers is the sonic youth 'goo demos' cd which has a badly xeroxed picture of 'cher's first boyfriend after sonny, david geffen'. scary & hilarious all at once. but not very idm. (oh well.) -- david
1999-08-06 16:37TenflyI'll have to agree with you there Fred. When you're on such mediums as the internet, your
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I'll have to agree with you there Fred. When you're on such mediums as the internet, your basically in a free world. There are laws that consist in the real world, but very rarely do they ever get enforced on the world on "the net". The net is full of free speach which can be a good thing and also a bad thing. So if the music industry and the lawyers decide they want the stop of the distribution of mp3s, I guess the only thing we can do it laugh. Its like the great CCS stopping audio warez. They will try, but you cant stop things that will always go on. You cant stop someone from opening a personal ftp, and distributing mp3s. They can shut his page down, but what happens after that? 5 more sites come up with the same thing. I think the music industry should grasp the internet and use it as a valuable marketing tool, which it can be. Think of that move Blair Witch Project, more than half of its marketing was spent on the web site which has been online for two years now. Anyway, just some things to babble... Tenfly BigKumquat@aol.com wrote:
quoted 14 lines << Hmmm...do you mean because of digital distributuion? With all the major labels wo> > << Hmmm...do you mean because of digital distributuion? With all the major labels working out "secure" formats for downloadable music, I can't imagine free music > happening any time soon. Curious if your friend knows some secret development I haven't heard...>> > > Well, of course my friend's comment was somewhat wry, but I do believe that there is something to it. Yes, he was referring to digital distribution. > > I'm not sure that the "secure" format thing can work out. As long as the major labels continue to release music on CD, folks will be able to take that music and turn it into digital files which can be sent/downloaded/uploaded on the web. Sure, the lawyers will try to fight this, but I believe that the sheer vastness and chaotic nature of the internet cannot be thwarted. Even if the CD's have some sort of copy protection feature to prevent digital transfer, an analog copy of a CD track will still sound pretty good. > > It seems pretty clear that the music industry power structure established in the 20th century will be dismantled in the 21st, as the means of production, distribution and promotion are delivered into the hands of the people thanks to information technology developments. I for one will be partying in the streets as we burn David Geffen in effigy. > > Brimming with insurrectional rhetoric, > Fred Church > bigkumquat@aol.com > http://www.thelocus.com/kumquat (free music here)