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Re: (idm) define "minimalist"

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1999-08-01 06:46emosissy (idm) define "minimalist"
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1999-08-01 07:59Bobby Tribble Re: (idm) define "minimalist"
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1999-08-01 06:46emosissyHow would you guys define the term "minimalist"?? I've heard many describe certain idm tra
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How would you guys define the term "minimalist"?? I've heard many describe certain idm tracks as "minimalist". I have my own take on what it means... what's yours? Does it apply to other genres? Can mainstream, radio-friendly music be minimalist? ---- emosissy "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye." (Antoine de Saint Exupery)
1999-08-01 19:05solenoid" . . . . . . , . . . . , . " Solenoid
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" . . . . . . , . . . . , . " Solenoid
1999-08-01 07:59Bobby TribbleAt 11:46 PM 7/31/99 -0700, you wrote: >How would you guys define the term "minimalist"?? I
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At 11:46 PM 7/31/99 -0700, you wrote:
quoted 2 lines How would you guys define the term "minimalist"?? I've heard many describe>How would you guys define the term "minimalist"?? I've heard many describe >certain idm tracks as "minimalist". I have my own take on what it means...
Most songs have many layers of sound that overlap. Most songs vary only words, and repeat these layers over and over exactly the same. Good songs vary each layer of sound over the course of the song. That is, the rhythm may change or the harmony between the different layers might change, or one of the layers of sound may fade out to give way to another one. Sometimes this is barely noticable unless you listen for it, and can discern a background sound going on in the background of a more noticable layer. Anyway, minimalist music to me only has one or a few layers of sound. It puts a lot more strain on the overall composition and sonic qualities of the song, since there's only those few layers to listen to. I think a good minimalist song stands well on its own but would also be a solid base to a "regular" song. PS, all that aside, I just listen to music and either like it or don't. I really don't like academic discussions of artwork, but hey, someone asked... =) - Bobby
1999-08-01 12:43TheevilD@aol.comMinimalist music (to my mind) attempts to achieve the maximm possible effect, often to be
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Minimalist music (to my mind) attempts to achieve the maximm possible effect, often to be as beautiful as possible, using the minimum of material. Nothing is wasted. Simple repeated patterns often feature, and there is a tendancy to go on for half an hour. This can definitely apply to other genres. There are minimalist composers (LaMonte Young and so on). Juan Atkins and his Detroit friends are minimal, since they try to achieve as much energy as possible using relatively little rhythmic or melodic variation. Klute and Springheel Jack are often minimalist d n b. In rock, Suicide used simple programmed beats and repetitive synths along with a bloke shouting to express incredible anger, while the Ramones arguably got impossible amounts of energy out of three chords and nothing remotely technical. Probably the best for minimalism is the wacky world of post rock: Mogwai's Mogwai Fear Satan is a heart wrenchingly beautiful twenty minutes consisting of a repeated three chord drone. In fact, anyone with cash to spare could do worse than check out their Kicking a Dead Pig remix album, since its great. Jorkens 'They, too, are Zen Masters, and are both shit hot at karate.' ...Mark Manning
1999-08-01 18:59emosissy> Probably the best for minimalism is the wacky world of post rock: Mogwai's > Mogwai Fear
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quoted 2 lines Probably the best for minimalism is the wacky world of post rock: Mogwai's> Probably the best for minimalism is the wacky world of post rock: Mogwai's > Mogwai Fear Satan is a heart wrenchingly beautiful twenty minutes
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quoted 1 line of a repeated three chord drone. In fact, anyone with cash to spare could> of a repeated three chord drone. In fact, anyone with cash to spare could
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quoted 1 line worse than check out their Kicking a Dead Pig remix album, since its> worse than check out their Kicking a Dead Pig remix album, since its
great.
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Hey thanks for the info. That's funny, I just heard Mogwai for the first time yesterday and I thought they were incredible. I borrowed a disc from my friend. If anyone else out there is into guitar music, check out Mogwai... think of it as "igm" ...intelligent guitar music!!
1999-08-02 02:30Warp YourselfI can only describe what I consider minimalist by the specific artists. In my opinion, che
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I can only describe what I consider minimalist by the specific artists. In my opinion, check out Chain Reaction artists, especially Vainqueur. Panasonic, Pole, Richie Hawtin and my favorite for the moment, Thomas Brinkman. "Hard" German stuff. By the way, Spring Heel Jack isn't minimalist. They just suck. But I'm trolling now- David
quoted 35 lines From: TheevilD@aol.com>From: TheevilD@aol.com >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: (idm) define "minimalist" >Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 08:43:23 EDT > >Minimalist music (to my mind) attempts to achieve the maximm possible >effect, >often to be as beautiful as possible, using the minimum of material. >Nothing >is wasted. Simple repeated patterns often feature, and there is a tendancy >to >go on for half an hour. >This can definitely apply to other genres. There are minimalist composers >(LaMonte Young and so on). Juan Atkins and his Detroit friends are minimal, >since they try to achieve as much energy as possible using relatively >little >rhythmic or melodic variation. Klute and Springheel Jack are often >minimalist >d n b. >In rock, Suicide used simple programmed beats and repetitive synths along >with a bloke shouting to express incredible anger, while the Ramones >arguably >got impossible amounts of energy out of three chords and nothing remotely >technical. >Probably the best for minimalism is the wacky world of post rock: Mogwai's >Mogwai Fear Satan is a heart wrenchingly beautiful twenty minutes >consisting >of a repeated three chord drone. In fact, anyone with cash to spare could >do >worse than check out their Kicking a Dead Pig remix album, since its great. > >Jorkens > >'They, too, are Zen Masters, and are both shit hot at karate.' ...Mark >Manning
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