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Serious question: Is this just lame flame-bait from a random AOL account? Do you honestly believe that more than a handful of people outside of the list know who Autechre are or what IDM stands for? If we don't represent ourselves, who will? Kind regards, Alex

quoted 12 lines Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:37:49 EDT

>Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:37:49 EDT >From: Crtrdge003@aol.com >Subject: (idm) um.. ask yourself this > >Does the majority of the IDM list actually think that it's members make up >the bulk of people who buy the music of artists like Autechre? Does it (IDM) >actually think the opinions expressed here are a factor record labels should >take into consideration when releasing new material? Does IDM believe the >opinions expressed by it's revered listmembers are being attentively watched >and used as guidance by anyone but lower and more insecure list members? No >of course not, it's only about facts.. nothing else goes on around here... >really! sheeaah

Alex Reynolds / Biology IT Support SAS Computing University of Pennsylvania Philadelphia, PA 19104 V +1 215 573.2818 F +1 215 898.8780 http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~reynolda/

On Sat, 10 Jul 1999, Alex Reynolds wrote:

quoted 2 lines Do you honestly believe that more than a handful of people outside of the

> Do you honestly believe that more than a handful of people outside of the > list know who Autechre are or what IDM stands for?

Not sure on the latter, but I gotta say "well, yeah, I do!" to the former. The last time Autechre played Toronto, somewhere around 800 people showed up. Now granted, they were on a bill with Richie Hawtin, Theorem and other folks - but I don't doubt that well over half of the people there were somewhat familiar with their work. I *do*, however, doubt that there are over 400 people from Toronto subscribed to this mailing list. Greg

quoted 2 lines Do you honestly believe that more than a handful of people outside of the

> Do you honestly believe that more than a handful of people outside of the > list know who Autechre are or what IDM stands for?

from someone whose postings are usually quite well thought out and on the ball, the comment above is quite hard to take seriously, so excuse me if it was meant to be 'humorous' - but yes, autechre are known to more than a handful of people who don't read this list. i would call you hopelessly naive, but maybe your definition of a 'handful' differs from mine. after all, everything in america is bigger than over here! the mainstream press (in the uk at least) don't review autechre records for the benefit of a couple of hundred list members. as for what 'idm' stands for, well yes, i can't argue with that. it takes a peculiar breed of obsessive to be pompous enough to call a certain kind of music 'intelligent'. normal people call autechre 'electronic'. <waves>

On 11 Jul 99, little miss trinitron wrote re: RE: (idm) hm..:

quoted 3 lines it takes a peculiar breed of obsessive to be pompous enough to

> it takes a peculiar breed of obsessive to be pompous enough to > call a certain kind of music 'intelligent'. normal people call > autechre 'electronic'.

Ha ha {blush} Very true and very well put. I *do* stammer when called upon to explain "IDM" to uninitiates. I * ~ you can also mail me at <lime909@hotmail.com> "I shift the blame to the worm in the bottle" ~~ Wire

: Serious question: Is this just lame flame-bait from a random AOL account? : : Do you honestly believe that more than a handful of people outside of the : list know who Autechre are or what IDM stands for? : : If we don't represent ourselves, who will? um, isn't this list less/around 1000 members? i've met LOTS of people who have no idea what the idm list is (or even have a computer for that matter!) but love squarepusher, autechre and aphex. i highly doubt that nothing would be releasing this stuff in the US if it was mainly for the idm list. do you seriously believe that, like warp thinks that they are really just working with nothing as some favor to the idm? amoaba records alone had at least 100 copies of the first nothing squarepusher. i about pissed myself when i saw that many copies. no way that one store was carrying THAT many of a cd mostly for idm listmembers... there were listening stations for both squarepusher and autechre nothing releases at a store here even...

Alex Reynolds <reynolda@sas.upenn.edu> wrote:

quoted 2 lines Do you honestly believe that more than a handful of people outside of the

>Do you honestly believe that more than a handful of people outside of the >list know who Autechre are or what IDM stands for?

hmmm.. i think autechre would be reasonably popular even excluding people on this list.. i remember back in the mid '90s, muchmusic (a reasonably commercial music station in canada) used to run basscadet every few days, and when i saw autechre play a club here about a year ago, the place was filled near capacity with the more intellectual ravers, post-rockers, ambient heads, and aging industrial scenesters.. by being rather undefinable, they manage to penetrate a lot of different little markets.. they certainly aren't household names, but they aren't idle hobbyists pressing cd-rs either (not that there's anything wrong with that).. trent's past experiences have made him a savvy businessman at the very least, and wouldn't have signed them if he didn't think he could sell the music.. - jove --- "music, the greatest good that mortals know and all of heaven we have below." (harold adamson) drop modulation audio - http://members.tripod.com/drop_modulation __ ICQ# 26360618 "Example: Where can I find information about the hobby pyrotechnics?" (alta-vista)

quoted 26 lines Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 22:55:25 -0400

> Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 22:55:25 -0400 > From: Alex Reynolds <reynolda@sas.upenn.edu> > Subject: (idm) hm.. > > Serious question: Is this just lame flame-bait from a random AOL account? > > Do you honestly believe that more than a handful of people outside of the > list know who Autechre are or what IDM stands for? > > If we don't represent ourselves, who will? > > Kind regards, > Alex > > >Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:37:49 EDT > >From: Crtrdge003@aol.com > >Subject: (idm) um.. ask yourself this > > > >Does the majority of the IDM list actually think that it's members make up > >the bulk of people who buy the music of artists like Autechre? Does it (IDM) > >actually think the opinions expressed here are a factor record labels should > >take into consideration when releasing new material? Does IDM believe the > >opinions expressed by it's revered listmembers are being attentively watched > >and used as guidance by anyone but lower and more insecure list members? No > >of course not, it's only about facts.. nothing else goes on around here... > >really! sheeaah

Though this thread is getting old i have to add my own opinion. I'm only 16 years old, and I've been listening to IDM music for more or less 2 years, though i wasn't even aware of the term IDM up until maybe 8 months ago. I think there are a lot of people that listen to autechre, µ-ziq, and some of the more "mainstream" artists if you can call it that, that have no knowledge of idm. My knowledge of electro artists was incredibly stumped before i became aware of idm and its mailings lists. This is obviously,thanks to my computer, and hotline for downloading mp3s from servers. Even now, i still don't know who most of the artists are that are spoken of here, though i still enjoy reading the threads. But my point is, yes there are i'm sure a lot of people that listen to some of the stuff idm'ers listen to, though their library will definitely include things not associated with idm at all. for example 1 year ago, this is what i was usually listening to, which has changed very much over the last few months: Autechre Mouse on Mars Juno Reactor Underworld µ-Ziq Carl Craig System 7 Scala Massive Attack Stereolab Laika Kraftwerk MBM Komputer (I'm sure there's more, but this was a long time ago)... I'm not really sure how many of these artists anyone recognizes, but i'm sure you get the point. And that's my two cents. Btw: how old are most typical idm'ers on this list anyhow? I know i'm pretty young, being 16. - Sendirian Bennett Gross