Kurt
yes, it does get a bit lame and sappy
too bad when so much of Bukem's work has been great
I really started to worry a few years ago when I saw one CD claiming
the strong "jazz" influence from the presence of the sax player form
the Average White Band! Albert Ayler would jump back into the river!
I never wanted to listen to the kind of jazz Bukem and many others
are emulating back in the 70s - it just never had the power to hold
me that the first generation fusion or the avant garde did
DJ Cam knows his Coltrane and ColdCut seem to know just about
everything but I would love to see more useof Coltrane and Dolphy's
intense riffs and extended solo clips, let alone Art Ensemble and
SunRa; Mingus could be so fantastic if you want forceful streams of
sound
and what about McLaughlin or Larry Young!
James Hardway does use some real jazz elements in a d&b setting
Red Snapper can also be very tasty
and in a different vein when I think of Tortoise i often remember the
large Coltrane poster they had/have in their studio
Mitch
quoted 29 lines "John Bush" wrote:
>"John Bush" wrote:
>
>>[...]there's definitely a pattern in
>>Britain regarding the lusher side of drum'n'bass. It started in the
>>mid-'70s with jazz-funk-lite and fusion -- i.e. Roy Ayers, Lonnie Liston
>>Smith, etc. -- which was huge in Britain, then cycled through rare-groove in
>>the '80s, and acid jazz in the '80s and '90s. I'm sure quite a few
>>junglists listened to (or were indirectly exposed to) fusion, quiet storm,
>>and the breezier side of jazz while they were growing up...
>
>that kind of explains a few things that had been perplexing me.
>recently I'd been scratching my head over the new LTJ Bukem 'Journey
>Inwards' because so much of it sounds like jazz-funk-lite. And I'd
>been straining to get with the vibe, all the while thinking,
>"but...who...likes...lite...jazz?" (answer: boring people, usually.)
>
>perhaps I'll get my retro-fetish-irony-filter cued to the right
>setting after awhile.
>
>Anyway, somebody had spoken of 'lush melodies' but I wonder if in
>fact any drum and bass has lush melodies. I've heard lush harmonic
>textures, maybe some evocative chord changes, but few melodies to
>speak of beyond some little riffs.
>
>kurt
>
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