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1999-07-02 15:59david turgeon (idm) indier than you: cheap cd subscriptions?
└─ 1999-07-02 16:07DarylsD Re: (idm) indier than you: cheap cd subscriptions?
└─ 1999-07-02 17:11Andrew Hime Re: (idm) indier than you: cheap cd subscriptions?
1999-07-02 17:02david turgeon Re: (idm) indier than you: cheap cd subscriptions?
1999-07-02 17:32david turgeon Re: (idm) indier than you: cheap cd subscriptions?
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1999-07-02 15:59david turgeonit seems to me perhaps a bit perverted that the listmember cd that got all the talk lately
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it seems to me perhaps a bit perverted that the listmember cd that got all the talk lately is the one we all got for free (the kumquat one, of course!) not that it's a bad thing, but then i see this other fellow (delusions of reference) who wishes to sell his cd for $5, shipping included, which is an extremely _fair_ price but i think -- who is going to order one? let me throw this idea in the air & see if i get any responses, but: if you paid, say, $40 for a "subscription" to receive such very indie cds every month or so (say, a total of 5-6 or so) directly to your mailbox, wouldn't that be more interesting than sending the same money to 6 different places & see what you get? not sure how this could work or who could implement this (not me!) but i'm thinking that it could be an easy way to get records out to a steady public. it is beneficial to the artist (they know exactly how much to press & won't lose money in the process) as well as to the audience (only one check to send or even one credit card operation). i know i've been contemplating getting the $100 deal from vinyl communications though $100 is quite a thing to shell out of your pocket. however, underscore for one has a similar deal for their shift-minus series & it makes them _very cheap_. so i'm just wondering. is this thing appealing? do people go for that? the subscription thing makes sense in my mind, but having heard virtually no talk on this list about it, i'm wondering whether it's only a good idea waiting for people to catch on it or just a hopeless pipe dream. knowing how good the listmembers' output has been lately, however, i'm thinking that perhaps someone should look into that. & more importantly, the scene _needs_ support. putting good music out is only getting halfway there. you guys have to be hyped into actually buying it -- rather than the latest autechre or squarepusher ep which you're going to hate anyhow. :) la la... sorry for going on such tangents. it's tangent day today. -- david turgeon at http://www.notype.com
1999-07-02 16:07DarylsDOn Fri, 2 Jul 1999, david turgeon wrote: > it seems to me perhaps a bit perverted that the
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On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, david turgeon wrote:
quoted 7 lines it seems to me perhaps a bit perverted that the listmember cd that got> it seems to me perhaps a bit perverted that the listmember cd that got > all the talk lately is the one we all got for free (the kumquat one, of > course!) not that it's a bad thing, but then i see this other fellow > (delusions of reference) who wishes to sell his cd for $5, shipping > included, which is an extremely _fair_ price but i think -- who is going > to order one? >
Well, It wouldn't bother me if NOBODY ordered one, I just thought I'd put it out there because of all the talk about listmember made music. I am an amatuer, which means I make music because I love it and for no other reason. If I can post this and have a few people like it, then thats good too... the rest of your ppost sounded very difficult logistically speaking. It seems like mp3.com has this covered anyway. You can weed out what you may like and what you won't by listening to a few mp3's. daryl delusions of reference www.david.huffman.com
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1999-07-02 17:11Andrew Hime> > it seems to me perhaps a bit perverted that the listmember cd that got > > all the tal
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quoted 16 lines it seems to me perhaps a bit perverted that the listmember cd that got> > it seems to me perhaps a bit perverted that the listmember cd that got > > all the talk lately is the one we all got for free (the kumquat one, of > > course!) not that it's a bad thing, but then i see this other fellow > > (delusions of reference) who wishes to sell his cd for $5, shipping > > included, which is an extremely _fair_ price but i think -- who is going > > to order one? > > Well, It wouldn't bother me if NOBODY ordered one, I just thought I'd put > it out there because of all the talk about listmember made music. I am an > amatuer, which means I make music because I love it and for no other > reason. If I can post this and have a few people like it, then thats good > too... > > the rest of your ppost sounded very difficult logistically speaking. It > seems like mp3.com has this covered anyway. You can weed out what you may > like and what you won't by listening to a few mp3's.
Call me a Luddite, but I'm not exactly thrilled by the prospect of MP3s destroying the music industry and making everyone except Alanis Morrissette and Tori Amos broke. My opinion is artists deserve to get paid for what they do, since it is work.
1999-07-02 17:02david turgeon> Well, It wouldn't bother me if NOBODY ordered one, I just thought I'd put > it out there
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quoted 5 lines Well, It wouldn't bother me if NOBODY ordered one, I just thought I'd put> Well, It wouldn't bother me if NOBODY ordered one, I just thought I'd put > it out there because of all the talk about listmember made music. I am an > amatuer, which means I make music because I love it and for no other > reason. If I can post this and have a few people like it, then thats good > too...
well -- i was using your post as an example, really.
quoted 3 lines the rest of your ppost sounded very difficult logistically speaking. It> the rest of your ppost sounded very difficult logistically speaking. It > seems like mp3.com has this covered anyway. You can weed out what you may > like and what you won't by listening to a few mp3's.
but what about the people who don't want to be on mp3.com (or even have mp3s out, for that matter)? that's mostly who i had in mind. -- david turgeon at http://www.notype.com
1999-07-02 17:32david turgeon> Call me a Luddite, but I'm not exactly thrilled by the prospect of MP3s > destroying the
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quoted 6 lines Call me a Luddite, but I'm not exactly thrilled by the prospect of MP3s> Call me a Luddite, but I'm not exactly thrilled by the prospect of MP3s > destroying the music industry and making everyone except Alanis > Morrissette and Tori Amos broke. > > My opinion is artists deserve to get paid for what they do, since it is > work.
it should probably be obvious that i'm on the pro-mp3 side of the fence (get on no type if you need proof) but i have to agree that a certain amount of weeding out must be done. a healthy dose of free mp3 releases is good, but it isn't the final solution. paying for downloadable mp3s seems like a sensible solution to me, but here again, the problem lies more in shelling a certain amount from your pocket (or credit card) for _every song_ (or maybe every album). but then, the subscription idea could save the day here too, so you could buy "credits" which would allow you to download x songs. it would likely be cheaper for the customer, & bring more money to the label (& by extension, hopefully, the artist). but i don't see a problem with releasing free mp3s here & there. it's a safe move, doesn't make you lose (or make) money, & it gets a minimal amount of talk going. as for mp3 killing the music industry -- i think if anything, it makes some realize how ultimately easy it is to make & release music -- & if anything, it helps destroying the mythical godhoodness of the industry, its permanent "can do no wrong" attitude, & the almost unconscious idea that someone who isn't signed must not be worth hearing (this would be akin to the common thinking that if the press doesn't talk about something, it's probably false or inexistant.) i guess we just have to be responsible. <laughs> -- david turgeon at http://www.notype.com