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(idm) Re: Mike Oldfield

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1999-06-24 19:47Richard Barnett (idm) Re: Mike Oldfield
1999-06-25 16:02Graham H Freeman (idm) Re: Mike Oldfield
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1999-06-24 19:47Richard Barnett"Graham H Freeman" <gths@mpx.com.au> wrote: > (Incidentally, Oldfield's _Tubular Bells 3_
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"Graham H Freeman" <gths@mpx.com.au> wrote:
quoted 7 lines (Incidentally, Oldfield's _Tubular Bells 3_ is really quite good, a> (Incidentally, Oldfield's _Tubular Bells 3_ is really quite good, a > lot better than the first two, once you get over the shock of the > "Moonlight Shadow" clone. I know, I know, but at least he doesn't put > great long post-modernist self-analysis rambles over his tunes. Well, > perhaps except for Amarok, which had that lady going on about > "endings being just beginnings". Maybe Mike Oldfield was taking the > piss out of DJ Shadow five years in advance. Hmm. I should stop now.)
I'm surprised to hear that about TB3, since TB2 was really scary. Amarok, though, is probably the best thing he's done for a long time, despite the voice at the end of the second side being slightly off-putting and a little bit too cryptic for its own good. It's clearly meant to be Margaret Thatcher, but I really can't work out why. Anyway, Middle of Nowhere is much much better than Oldfield's average quality level. -- Richard
1999-06-25 16:02Graham H Freeman> From: Richard Barnett <richard_barnett@iname.com> > Subject: (idm) Re: Mike Oldfield > >
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quoted 11 lines From: Richard Barnett <richard_barnett@iname.com>> From: Richard Barnett <richard_barnett@iname.com> > Subject: (idm) Re: Mike Oldfield > > (Incidentally, Oldfield's _Tubular Bells 3_ is really quite good, a lot > > better than the first two, once you get over the shock of the "Moonlight > > Shadow" clone. I know, I know, but at least he doesn't put great long > > post-modernist self-analysis rambles over his tunes. Well, perhaps > > except for Amarok, which had that lady going on about "endings being > > just beginnings". Maybe Mike Oldfield was taking the piss out of DJ > > Shadow five years in advance. Hmm. I should stop now.) > > I'm surprised to hear that about TB3, since TB2 was really scary.
Well, it's still a Mike Oldfield record (completely IDM-free zone, cheesy in parts and all that), but it's a good one for a change, though it lacks zip. I think he just did TB2 just to piss off Virgin, since he got sucked into a ten album contract with them to start off with, and had to do another three to get a better deal. And I think only hippies liked the original _Tubular Bells_. I suspect that it was popular in the same way as Roni Size's _New Forms_ was. I.e., it was cool to namedrop and say you had it even though you could only actually bear listening to it twice. _Hergest Ridge_ and _Ommadawn_ are good though.
quoted 8 lines Amarok, though, is probably the best thing he's done for a long time,> Amarok, though, is probably the best thing he's done for a long time, > despite the voice at the end of the second side being slightly > off-putting and a little bit too > cryptic for its own good. It's clearly meant to be Margaret Thatcher, but > I really can't work out why. > > Anyway, Middle of Nowhere is much much better than Oldfield's average > quality level.
Yes, you're fairly correct there. He didn't put much out worth listening to between 1983 and 1994 aside from _Amarok_, but that was probably a result of having to put out half-baked pop albums to work off the said contract. _Songs of Distant Earth_ is alright, the "Let There Be Light" single off it with the Hardfloor and *ahem* TB remixes is pretty good if you can find it. -- Graham Hubert Freeman. Graham the Happy Scum. WWGD. Your computer has been Alstoned. http://www.mpx.com.au/~gths mailto:gths@flat-earth.org ... Texas. What a hell of a place to die.