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1999-06-21 18:14Sebastien BeaulieuHi all, For those interested, I talked to David last Friday and here's the why of the "NO

From:: Sebastien Beaulieu <sbeaulieu@logisil.com>
To:: idm <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:14:22 -0400
Subject:: (idm) David Kristian vs. Use of Sampling

Hi all, For those interested, I talked to David last Friday and here's the why of the "NO SAMPLING ALLOWED" in the liner notes of "Beneath the Valley of the Modulars". This is there because his work has been sampled and used by others without permission, two guilty parties : - Jega on "Stainless Steel Drum" ( I'm pretty sure that's the track, anyway it's on SKA009 and the funniest thing was that the friend I was with had just bought it and had it with him, so David showed us the part in question ) - Jedi Knights, some track on "New School Science", David didn't say which one. Seb

1999-06-21 18:38Sebastien Beaulieu>> >> For those interested, I talked to David last Friday and here's the why >> >> of the

From:: Sebastien Beaulieu <sbeaulieu@logisil.com>
To:: r kidwell <KIDWELL@tessco.com>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:38:17 -0400
Subject:: Re: (idm) David Kristian vs. Use of Sampling

quoted 27 lines For those interested, I talked to David last Friday and here's the why

>> >> For those interested, I talked to David last Friday and here's the why >> >> of the "NO SAMPLING ALLOWED" in the liner notes of "Beneath >> >> the Valley of the Modulars". >> >> >> >> This is there because his work has been sampled and used by others >> >> without permission, two guilty parties : >> > >> >ah! so the context of the "no sampling allowed" >> >is *not* some kind of statement on his personal music making >> >ethics.. it was portrayed that way in somebody's >> >review last week, and that sparked the ill-fated >> >'beef with the use of samplers' threadlet. >> > >> As far as I know, he doesn't own a sampler, most, if not all of >> his sounds are generated through analog or digital equipment, >> I can't imagine how I would feel if I'd take a day to create a certain >> sound and have someone take 5 minutes to sample it... > >oh, i'm not disagreeing there. i'm >just saying the whole threadling was born >out of misreading the feeling behind that >statement. > >but anyway, what part of "stainless steel >drum" was it? > >

It's the kind of spacey sound, it goes something like : woooohooo--hooo--hooo, it's taken from DK's Clubfoot EP. Sorry, I'm not too good at translating sounds to word... Seb

1999-06-21 19:38r kidwell> It's the kind of spacey sound, it goes something > like : woooohooo--hooo--hooo, it's ta

From:: r kidwell <KIDWELL@tessco.com>
To:: Sebastien Beaulieu <sbeaulieu@logisil.com>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:38:45 -0500 (EST)
Subject:: Re: (idm) David Kristian vs. Use of Sampling
Reply to:: Re: (idm) David Kristian vs. Use of Sampling

quoted 4 lines It's the kind of spacey sound, it goes something

> It's the kind of spacey sound, it goes something > like : woooohooo--hooo--hooo, it's taken from DK's Clubfoot EP. > > Sorry, I'm not too good at translating sounds to word...

no, i think you did a fine job, i'm pretty sure i know exactly what part you mean. rjck.///___

1999-06-21 19:29r kidwell> >> For those interested, I talked to David last Friday and here's the why > >> of the "N

From:: r kidwell <KIDWELL@tessco.com>
To:: Sebastien Beaulieu <sbeaulieu@logisil.com>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Cc:: r kidwell <KIDWELL@tessco.com>
Date:: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:29:04 -0500 (EST)
Subject:: Re: (idm) David Kristian vs. Use of Sampling

quoted 17 lines For those interested, I talked to David last Friday and here's the why

> >> For those interested, I talked to David last Friday and here's the why > >> of the "NO SAMPLING ALLOWED" in the liner notes of "Beneath > >> the Valley of the Modulars". > >> > >> This is there because his work has been sampled and used by others > >> without permission, two guilty parties : > > > >ah! so the context of the "no sampling allowed" > >is *not* some kind of statement on his personal music making > >ethics.. it was portrayed that way in somebody's > >review last week, and that sparked the ill-fated > >'beef with the use of samplers' threadlet. > > > As far as I know, he doesn't own a sampler, most, if not all of > his sounds are generated through analog or digital equipment, > I can't imagine how I would feel if I'd take a day to create a certain > sound and have someone take 5 minutes to sample it...

oh, i'm not disagreeing there. i'm just saying the whole threadling was born out of misreading the feeling behind that statement. but anyway, what part of "stainless steel drum" was it? rjck.//___

Re: (idm) David Kristian vs. Use of Sampling