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1999-06-15 13:53Graham H Freeman (idm) Sean and Rob Redux [long]
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1999-06-15 13:53Graham H FreemanOK, since the little controversy of Ae's kiss-off note to IDM-l a couple of days back, whi
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OK, since the little controversy of Ae's kiss-off note to IDM-l a couple of days back, which consisted the regurgiation of some pagefuls of hotwords and finishing off thus: " we tried to work out what we'd have to become to feel comfortable on this list. we decided not to go there. " I've decided to do a little analysis on the circumstances surrounding their departure. The penultimate posting from our pals lambasted some unwitting <mark@sonance.demon.co.uk> personage analysing their recent EP7 release and speculating on the future of Autechre, concluding " Like I said, I've no specific problem with 'ep7', but it does highlight a possible danger that Autechre could swiftly disappear up their own arse if they're not careful. " Obviously Ae weren't impressed by some punter forecasting their fate. " trying to predict the future is as pointless as this posting. relax and enjoy the present while you still can. sean. " Other <lota@pop3.demon.co.uk> postings (mainly from a s., presumably Sean) included the following: June 12 in response to the computer geekery and idm thread: " it would be interesting to find out how idm members use their computers. s. " June 7 on gamelan music: " check out all basf "world sound" cassette releases. they have relased shitloads of otherwise unheard gamelan stuff internationally and its really cheap. also contact universitas warmadewa in denpasar. much stuff there. s. " June 7 in response to <godpup@ix.netcom.com> spilging thus: " anyway, back to ae. same fucking sounds as the last album with the exact (well, pretty damn close at least..) digital signal processing. i think they must have, let's say 20-30 songs total, and have remixed, re-hacked, and re-released the same damn thing over the past five years. " , Mr. S replied " i was wondering which sounds were the same? can you be more specific? s. " I think Sean and Rob have a point. From their postings, it's quite apparent that they thought the IDM list was about music and sound. They made a couple of tentative attempts to enter the fray with seemingly appropriate responses about music making with computers and gamelans. It didn't take them long to realise that IDM was not in fact the list they thought it was, but rather the sort of list where members engage in endless cant and twaddle about record collection dicksizing, how very strongly---!!! some cats feel about Tom Jenkinson------, infinity and typing monkeys and how they relate to the inherent musicality of using samples, in particular the ubiquitous "Amen, Brother!" break, the sexual proclivities of Richard Dogbert James (that Salbutamol kid), how the name of track 2 on the Windowlicker single is a Weitzman expression referring to the track, whether Funkstörung are ripping off Fatboy Slim or not, the role of script kiddie unions in the dissemination of Japanese gabber, 'chiqs in IDM', whether mp3's represent good value for money, the relative merits of competing nightclubs in Perth, Scotland, killer apps for 8- tracks, Farmers Manual remixing Britney Spears, whether anyone gives a goats bollocks about demo/tracker groups that have sold out and gone mp3 only, the value of Lego Feet, the tDR issue of Emigré magazine, and Pamela Anderson's used breast implants as collectors items, whether The Orb were inspired by klezmer music, places to shop for IDM records in Austin, TX, whether or not to go to th@ Burning Man thing, whether the Wire is pure wank, the brand of the clock that Flavor Flav wears about his neck, whether having an introduced species of ruminant selectively grazing a patch of ground and then eating the ruminant is better than clearfelling that ground and growing introduced crops, the ethics of taping shortwave broadcasts of American fundamentalist Christian rant engines, whether Christina Ricci is thE sex avatar of the cosmos, whether Lemmy of Motörhead should grow his beard back, whether Bill Laswell makes shite dub or not, whether Jean-Michel Jarre is a brilliant artist and a credit to the French people, fascinating skin diseases used as names for IDM labels, how the apparent userfriendliness of Roland's groove gear soon turns to frustration as one realises how bloody difficult it is to produce something with a MC505 that doesn't sound like hackneyed acid house, where the coolest place in the universe is: Detroit or Sheffield, whether artists got paid for having their music used in Beetle commercials, "Cute" John Peel vs Richard "Kuddly" Kingsmill DJ showdowns, postmodernism applied to the role of disk jockey as interpreter of our hopes and dreams, potential soundtracks for a movie adaptation of "Neuromancer", "The Illuminatus Trilogy", or "The Little Engine That Could", if kicking a tin can down a gravel lane automatically constitutes a live performance of IDM, whether wearing adidas brings good karma, and of course, whether Jimi Hendrix be writing ambient music if he was alive, and if he was would he sound like Yanni or the Future Sound of Podunk, and of course the burning question we've all asked ourselves at one stage or another: what are they building in there? Sean and Rob know, and they're not telling us. Best to wait until they see fit to unveil the work. Which brings me back to the first statement I quoted. " we tried to work out what we'd have to become to feel comfortable on this list. we decided not to go there. " Let's face it, if they became active participants on this list, they would have to face the continual analysis and speculation on their lifes work. They might be willing to put up with the occasional exegesis of their product in magazine articles, where they would be able to explain their craft to the reporter in a more broadband manner. Even then, there would be some heartburn as the journalist wrote the story in his words, which would probably be further edited before publication. The meaning they tried to convey would be lost. Sure, they might've found this mailing list a suitable medium to explain themselves, being able to clear up misconceptions and bring up a different angle on their work, that of the creator. But I doubt it. Their initial missives were lost in the noise, being too minimal in their engagement of this audience. And if they chose to make their pronouncements more amplified, they would end up distorting the message, and consequently distort the reception to their music. In the pressure cooker environment of a public forum, one might imagine that they might be tempted into spending more time justifying how they sequence the "bleep"'s and "bloop"'s and "zzzzt-krkl"'s they have released, than they would spend in their ultrasecret laboratory cooking up strange and frightening new sounds like "bing". They would run the risk of turning into DJ Spooky. And as they became public figures, they would slowly find their soul being sucked away by the omnivorous intentions of the typical genredropping IDM geek. They would become stressed. They would start taking Prozac. They would start doing concept albums about the heady days of the Summer of Love. They would make lots of money. They would forget about the music. They would start trying to fly balloons to the Moon. They would asphyxiate and die. We would have killed them. It would be our fault. Autechre would become the Princess Diana of the music world. It is quite clear now why they pulled out. If the cost of their participation in this list was to corrupt the impact of their music on us, then it was better that they stay out of the fray and to just transmit, and to let us receive. Better to avoid the demystification of their unique form of expression. Better to not grow fat and entertain delusions of grandeur. Such are the hazards of audient/artiste interaction. We should be eternally grateful to them that they pissed off out of here, so we can listen to their music without prejudice. -- Graham H Freeman np: Steve Earle and the Del McCoury Band: The Mountain. -- Graham Hubert Freeman. Graham the Happy Scum. WWGD. Your computer has been Alstoned. http://www.mpx.com.au/~gths mailto:gths@flat-earth.org ... you will never know, how much i love you...
1999-06-17 23:28Mark StevensOn Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:53:48 +1000, you wrote: >OK, since the little controversy of Ae's k
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On Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:53:48 +1000, you wrote:
quoted 3 lines OK, since the little controversy of Ae's kiss-off note to IDM-l a>OK, since the little controversy of Ae's kiss-off note to IDM-l a >couple of days back, which consisted the regurgiation of some >pagefuls of hotwords and finishing off thus:
Of course, this is all very well, but it is based on the rather tentative assumption that [personal name] actually was Sean and Rob. -- Mark Stevens http://www.sonance.demon.co.uk/
1999-06-16 15:31Graham H FreemanOK, since the little controversy of Ae's kiss-off note to IDM-l a couple of days back, whi
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OK, since the little controversy of Ae's kiss-off note to IDM-l a couple of days back, which consisted the regurgiation of some pagefuls of hotwords and finishing off thus: " we tried to work out what we'd have to become to feel comfortable on this list. we decided not to go there. " I've decided to do a little analysis on the circumstances surrounding their departure. The penultimate posting from our pals lambasted some unwitting <mark@sonance.demon.co.uk> personage analysing their recent EP7 release and speculating on the future of Autechre, concluding " Like I said, I've no specific problem with 'ep7', but it does highlight a possible danger that Autechre could swiftly disappear up their own arse if they're not careful. " Obviously Ae weren't impressed by some punter forecasting their fate. " trying to predict the future is as pointless as this posting. relax and enjoy the present while you still can. sean. " Other <lota@pop3.demon.co.uk> postings (mainly from a s., presumably Sean) included the following: June 12 in response to the computer geekery and idm thread: " it would be interesting to find out how idm members use their computers. s. " June 7 on gamelan music: " check out all basf "world sound" cassette releases. they have relased shitloads of otherwise unheard gamelan stuff internationally and its really cheap. also contact universitas warmadewa in denpasar. much stuff there. s. " June 7 in response to <godpup@ix.netcom.com> spilging thus: " anyway, back to ae. same fucking sounds as the last album with the exact (well, pretty damn close at least..) digital signal processing. i think they must have, let's say 20-30 songs total, and have remixed, re-hacked, and re-released the same damn thing over the past five years. " , Mr. S replied " i was wondering which sounds were the same? can you be more specific? s. " I think Sean and Rob have a point. From their postings, it's quite apparent that they thought the IDM list was about music and sound. They made a couple of tentative attempts to enter the fray with seemingly appropriate responses about music making with computers and gamelans. It didn't take them long to realise that IDM was not in fact the list they thought it was, but rather the sort of list where members engage in endless cant and twaddle about record collection dicksizing, how very strongly---!!! some cats feel about Tom Jenkinson------, infinity and typing monkeys and how they relate to the inherent musicality of using samples, in particular the ubiquitous "Amen, Brother!" break, the sexual proclivities of Richard Dogbert James (that Salbutamol kid), how the name of track 2 on the Windowlicker single is a Weitzman expression referring to the track, whether Funkstörung are ripping off Fatboy Slim or not, the role of script kiddie unions in the dissemination of Japanese gabber, 'chiqs in IDM', whether mp3's represent good value for money, the relative merits of competing nightclubs in Perth, Scotland, killer apps for 8- tracks, Farmers Manual remixing Britney Spears, whether anyone gives a goats bollocks about demo/tracker groups that have sold out and gone mp3 only, the value of Lego Feet, the tDR issue of Emigré magazine, and Pamela Anderson's used breast implants as collectors items, whether The Orb were inspired by klezmer music, places to shop for IDM records in Austin, TX, whether or not to go to th@ Burning Man thing, whether the Wire is pure wank, the brand of the clock that Flavor Flav wears about his neck, whether having an introduced species of ruminant selectively grazing a patch of ground and then eating the ruminant is better than clearfelling that ground and growing introduced crops, the ethics of taping shortwave broadcasts of American fundamentalist Christian rant engines, whether Christina Ricci is thE sex avatar of the cosmos, whether Lemmy of Motörhead should grow his beard back, whether Bill Laswell makes shite dub or not, whether Jean-Michel Jarre is a brilliant artist and a credit to the French people, fascinating skin diseases used as names for IDM labels, how the apparent userfriendliness of Roland's groove gear soon turns to frustration as one realises how bloody difficult it is to produce something with a MC505 that doesn't sound like hackneyed acid house, where the coolest place in the universe is: Detroit or Sheffield, whether artists got paid for having their music used in Beetle commercials, "Cute" John Peel vs Richard "Kuddly" Kingsmill DJ showdowns, postmodernism applied to the role of disk jockey as interpreter of our hopes and dreams, potential soundtracks for a movie adaptation of "Neuromancer", "The Illuminatus Trilogy", or "The Little Engine That Could", if kicking a tin can down a gravel lane automatically constitutes a live performance of IDM, whether wearing adidas brings good karma, and of course, whether Jimi Hendrix be writing ambient music if he was alive, and if he was would he sound like Yanni or the Future Sound of Podunk, and of course the burning question we've all asked ourselves at one stage or another: what are they building in there? Sean and Rob know, and they're not telling us. Best to wait until they see fit to unveil the work. Which brings me back to the first statement I quoted. " we tried to work out what we'd have to become to feel comfortable on this list. we decided not to go there. " Let's face it, if they became active participants on this list, they would have to face the continual analysis and speculation on their lifes work. They might be willing to put up with the occasional exegesis of their product in magazine articles, where they would be able to explain their craft to the reporter in a more broadband manner. Even then, there would be some heartburn as the journalist wrote the story in his words, which would probably be further edited before publication. The meaning they tried to convey would be lost. Sure, they might've found this mailing list a suitable medium to explain themselves, being able to clear up misconceptions and bring up a different angle on their work, that of the creator. But I doubt it. Their initial missives were lost in the noise, being too minimal in their engagement of this audience. And if they chose to make their pronouncements more amplified, they would end up distorting the message, and consequently distort the reception to their music. In the pressure cooker environment of a public forum, one might imagine that they might be tempted into spending more time justifying how they sequence the "bleep"'s and "bloop"'s and "zzzzt-krkl"'s they have released, than they would spend in their ultrasecret laboratory cooking up strange and frightening new sounds like "bing". They would run the risk of turning into DJ Spooky. And as they became public figures, they would slowly find their soul being sucked away by the omnivorous intentions of the typical genredropping IDM geek. They would become stressed. They would start taking Prozac. They would start doing concept albums about the heady days of the Summer of Love. They would make lots of money. They would forget about the music. They would start trying to fly balloons to the Moon. They would asphyxiate and die. We would have killed them. It would be our fault. Autechre would become the Princess Diana of the music world. It is quite clear now why they pulled out. If the cost of their participation in this list was to corrupt the impact of their music on us, then it was better that they stay out of the fray and to just transmit, and to let us receive. Better to avoid the demystification of their unique form of expression. Better to not grow fat and entertain delusions of grandeur. Such are the hazards of audient/artiste interaction. We should be eternally grateful to them that they pissed off out of here, so we can listen to their music without prejudice. -- Graham H Freeman np: Steve Earle and the Del McCoury Band: The Mountain. -- Graham Hubert Freeman. Graham the Happy Scum. WWGD. Your computer has been Alstoned. http://www.mpx.com.au/~gths mailto:gths@flat-earth.org ... oh. i thought this was like Knight Rider.
1999-06-16 16:10Ernesto Ikerd>It is quite clear now why they pulled out. If the cost of their >participation in this li
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quoted 7 lines It is quite clear now why they pulled out. If the cost of their>It is quite clear now why they pulled out. If the cost of their >participation in this list was to corrupt the impact of their music >on us, then it was better that they stay out of the fray and to just >transmit, and to let us receive. Better to avoid the demystification of >their unique form of expression. Better to not grow fat and entertain >delusions of grandeur. Such are the hazards of audient/artiste >interaction.
I dont know about all this last part, but youre right, there are some stupid threads. It is a public mailing list for dog's sake, and sometimes there will be members that seriously discuss the impact of music and sound, but then theres always gonna be guy that posts about staining his underwear. Ae had a new album coming out, naturally they want that incognito "guy-on-the-street" take on their latest work - so they subbed to IDM. I personally I love almost all of Ae's work, and Ill listen to EP7 at least 20 more times before I decide to write it off (it always takes a few goes to sink in), but I do agree that they at least 'seem' to be losing touch with what their fans want. Even here at IDM where people drool over the most inaccessible noise core, pour-a-can-of-Coke-on-the-808-and-record-it bits of audio torcher, no one is really warming up to their new baby. Maybe their so popular that the 'art crowd' they hang with has taken them to that other level where us mortals simply cannot artistically follow. Im not critisizing ANY artist who stays true to their feelings and writes whatever and however they see fit, regardless of whether the fans go for it.. That artist creates music for their own reasons and pleasing people shouldnt have to be in that equation........... -BUT- Dont get pissed off if the masses dont swallow it.... my 20 pesos ernie Ernesto Ikerd, (817) 763-4795 Company Graphics, Dept 17, MZ-1156 Lockheed Martin Tactical Aircraft Systems Fort Worth, Texas
1999-06-16 16:18Tom Millar> It is quite clear now why they pulled out. If the cost of their > participation in this
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quoted 12 lines It is quite clear now why they pulled out. If the cost of their> It is quite clear now why they pulled out. If the cost of their > participation in this list was to corrupt the impact of their music > on us, then it was better that they stay out of the fray and to just > transmit, and to let us receive. Better to avoid the demystification of > their unique form of expression. Better to not grow fat and entertain > delusions of grandeur. Such are the hazards of audient/artiste > interaction. > > We should be eternally grateful to them that they pissed off out of > here, so we can listen to their music without prejudice. > > -- Graham H Freeman
Yeah, every time I listen to Kid606 I think "Man this wanker's only like 19 years old and never sez anything on the IDM list except stuff about Cristina Ricci who I think has eyes that are too far apart, this music sucks" And when I listen to the one Blitter vs. Hrvatski track I have, I think "Man this dude went to Berklee and shit but all he can talk about is the Amen, plus all his record reviews are pretentious and end with a phrase or adjective that I guess he thinks is going to pull the whole mess together but completely fails, this bassline is wack" And when I listen to my own tracks I think "Man this fucker thinks he's some kind of Devil's Advocate with his anti-sampler stance and his cack reviews of dumbass domestic albums, he doesn't even own a turntable or a synth that has knobs on it, this shit sounds like Surgeon minus about ten billion quality points" Whatever. Becoming a public figure (if you want to call joining IDMl becoming a public figure I'll go along, but just this once) doesn't hurt your music unless you as a human being are a genuine shithead. I thoroughly love the fact that I can get on here and rant and rave with some of the best in the genre. I can go and read Våt's spanky FE reviews or dig on Kid's BOOSHBOOSHFBOOSHDOOSH beats and revel in the general humanness of the artist at the same time I revel in their art. We're real people, not paragons of electronic beat virtue or some shit. You can demystify the artist without demystifying the art, and you can certainly grow fat and wallow in delusions of grandeur just sitting by yourself and never talking to anyone. Anyway, I think they missed out on a great opportunity. I'm sure if they had worked out a good explanation they probably could've gotten me to go out and buy that fourth album of theirs (maybe even the peel sessions!) Tom
1999-06-16 17:32Bill, WrightIf they have any sense of humor at all, AE wrote this post by Mr. Freeman. >We should be e
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If they have any sense of humor at all, AE wrote this post by Mr. Freeman.
quoted 2 lines We should be eternally grateful to them that they pissed off out of>We should be eternally grateful to them that they pissed off out of >here, so we can listen to their music without prejudice.
bill wright wwright@clemson.edu <http://hubcap.clemson.edu/~wwright>
1999-06-16 23:55Richard Barnett"Graham H Freeman" <gths@mpx.com.au> wrote: > Let's face it, if they became active partici
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"Graham H Freeman" <gths@mpx.com.au> wrote:
quoted 3 lines Let's face it, if they became active participants on this list, they would> Let's face it, if they became active participants on this list, they would > have to face the continual analysis and speculation on their lifes work. > [deleted]
Another issue is that the fan-base on this list would constitute a significant inertial or retrograde force: "Can you do another album like Amber?" and similar questions would probably be common. (This is something Brian Eno stated when invited to join a mailing list devoted to his work.)
quoted 7 lines Sure, they might've found this mailing list a suitable medium to> Sure, they might've found this mailing list a suitable medium to > explain themselves, being able to clear up misconceptions and bring > up a different angle on their work, that of the creator. But I doubt it. > Their initial missives were lost in the noise, being too minimal in their > engagement of this audience. And if they chose to make their > pronouncements more amplified, they would end up distorting the message, > and consequently distort the reception to their music.
I'm not sure I agree. Autechre don't strike me as being inclined to casually justify or explain their work in a forum such as this -- though I admit I'm basing this on feelings garnered from their interviews and textually-impoverished sleevenotes. However, their initial postings were tentative, didn't generate any conversation threads, and were pretty anonymous. Of course, if they'd burst onto the list and said "We're Autechre: worship/criticise/ignore/bankroll us" then strange things would have occurred, but there are or have been active artists on this list (most notably Black Dog related) who have presumably survived this ordeal -- and most people understand the "message" implicit in an unanswered email. I must admit to scepticism over whether the posters were actually Autechre (has there been any real evidence?), and it seems to me strange that they'd lurk fairly quietly before leaving in public disgust over what seemed a rather minor matter. Perhaps they were expecting a different level of content on the list, but then wouldn't that be rather naive? As their own interviews demonstrate, talking about music is difficult: most of the traffic on this list which I find useful consists of pointers to things I guess I might like; I'd love the time to start creating my own music and discussing the detail on some list, but as it is I just lurk most of the tiume. Ernesto Ikerd <IkerdEA@lmtas.lmco.com> wrote:
quoted 2 lines It is quite clear now why they pulled out. If the cost of their> >It is quite clear now why they pulled out. If the cost of their > [deleted]
quoted 9 lines I personally I love almost all of Ae's work, and Ill listen to EP7 at> I personally I love almost all of Ae's work, and Ill listen to EP7 at > least 20 more times before I decide to write it off (it always takes a > few goes to sink in), but I do agree that they at least 'seem' to be > losing touch with what their fans want. Even here at IDM where people > drool over the most inaccessible noise core, > pour-a-can-of-Coke-on-the-808-and-record-it bits of audio torcher, no one > is really warming up to their new baby. Maybe their so popular that the > 'art crowd' they hang with has taken them to that other level where us > mortals simply cannot artistically follow.
"Losing touch with what their fans want"? Did we want "Chiastic Slide" before it was released? I don't think I could have conceived of it! Except in the very general sense ("Give us cool new music that'll impress/ estrange my friends"), I'm not sure we should be given what we _want_ -- see my comment on inertia above -- unless we're happy to stagnate in the same manner as Tangerine Dream have in the 90s (and maybe even that comparison is a little cruel: perhaps The Lighthouse Family are a better example?). Should an artist be in touch with what the fans want? I'd imagine it's hard for an artist to satisfy what he/she wants, so as soon as 1 or more fans are involved it's almost certain that someone won't be satisfied. Admittedly, LP5 and EP7 have been received rather differently on this list to Tri Repetae and even Chiastic Slide (which I think is in many ways less accessible than LP5, in particular its mutating rhythms), but I'm not convinced that this says anything about future directions or potential fan-satisfaction. Personally, I love EP7. Autechre have made giant strides between releases before; I guess they'll do it again. -- Richard
1999-06-17 00:23Will SamuelsAutechre has always exceed my expectations in the past and always push the boundaries a li
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Autechre has always exceed my expectations in the past and always push the boundaries a little more. I have to admit I wasn't as impressed with this most recent release, but I think it will grow on me. And it's an Ep. I think it's kind of funny that RDJ does an LP that's about 30 minutes long. And Autechre does an ep that 60 minutes long (pointless chuckle i know) Unlike alot of other IDM artists they seem to be continually exploring new directions. If they put out something occasionally that doesn't blow me away, that's fine...because I am confident they will in the future. They have been pushing the envelope more than any other artists I have heard. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com