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1999-06-08 21:10Moonlight (idm) Takemura "Scope"
└─ 1999-06-08 22:05Lance @ Inaudible© Re: (idm) Takemura "Scope"
1999-06-11 14:41Dave Segal Re: (idm) Takemura "Scope"
1999-06-11 20:01Lance @ Inaudible Re: (idm) Takemura "Scope"
1999-07-02 06:50Moonlight (idm) Takemura "Scope"
└─ 1999-07-02 07:40Hrvatski Re: (idm) Takemura/Hawtin.
└─ 1999-07-02 08:13Moonlight Re: (idm) Takemura/Hawtin.
└─ 1999-07-02 16:53eric hill (idm) takemura transition
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1999-06-08 21:10MoonlightHey, i pre-ordered the Thrill Jockey Takemura album "Scope" from CDnow, (leftover mblvd cr
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Hey, i pre-ordered the Thrill Jockey Takemura album "Scope" from CDnow, (leftover mblvd credits, free shipping), and it was supposed to be released today. Yet i just got a backorder notice from them. Does anyone know if it was released as expected or if it's been pushed back? Thanks. Adam. _________________________________ Adam Roesch / roesch@augsburg.edu Augsburg College / Minneapolis / MN / USA Visit my Fila Brazillia/Pork Recordings fan site: http://dogbert.augsburg.edu/~roesch/pork/ "Because success needs killing" TRICKY
1999-06-08 22:05Lance @ Inaudible©At 02:10 PM 6/8/99 -0700, you wrote: > >Hey, i pre-ordered the Thrill Jockey Takemura albu
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At 02:10 PM 6/8/99 -0700, you wrote:
quoted 6 lines Hey, i pre-ordered the Thrill Jockey Takemura album "Scope" from CDnow,> >Hey, i pre-ordered the Thrill Jockey Takemura album "Scope" from CDnow, >(leftover mblvd credits, free shipping), and it was supposed to be released >today. Yet i just got a backorder notice from them. Does anyone know if >it was released as expected or if it's been pushed back? Thanks. Adam. >
It's out. Picked my copy up from bent crayon today and it is amazing!!!! -->-Lance--- mclance@nacs.net lance@inaudible.com p.o. box 450715 westlake, ohio 44145 united states
1999-06-11 14:41Dave SegalI believe *Scope* is scheduled for release July 8. Dave Segal Managing Editor/Alternative
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I believe *Scope* is scheduled for release July 8. Dave Segal Managing Editor/Alternative Press Reviews/BPM/Reissue Redux/Origins Of Cool Secret Ions on WCSB Thursdays 9-11PM EST www.wcsb.org ----------
quoted 5 lines From: Moonlight <roesch@augsburg.edu>>From: Moonlight <roesch@augsburg.edu> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: (idm) Takemura "Scope" >Date: Tue, Jun 8, 1999, 5:10 PM >
quoted 8 lines Hey, i pre-ordered the Thrill Jockey Takemura album "Scope" from CDnow,>Hey, i pre-ordered the Thrill Jockey Takemura album "Scope" from CDnow, >(leftover mblvd credits, free shipping), and it was supposed to be released >today. Yet i just got a backorder notice from them. Does anyone know if >it was released as expected or if it's been pushed back? Thanks. Adam. > >_________________________________ >Adam Roesch / roesch@augsburg.edu >Augsburg College / Minneapolis / MN / USA
1999-06-11 20:01Lance @ InaudibleAt 10:41 AM 6/11/99 -0400, you wrote: > >I believe *Scope* is scheduled for release July 8
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At 10:41 AM 6/11/99 -0400, you wrote:
quoted 3 lines I believe *Scope* is scheduled for release July 8.> >I believe *Scope* is scheduled for release July 8. >
Scope is out now. Bent Crayon has had copies of it for sale since Tuesday. And i have to say that it is amazing! It sounds more like an Irdial, Mego, or Rastermusic record than a Thrill Jockey release... -->-Lance--- mclance@nacs.net lance@inaudible.com p.o. box 450715 westlake, ohio 44145 united states
1999-07-02 06:50Moonlight"Scope" finally came in the mail today from CDnow. (Warning: I dig this guy, so here are a
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"Scope" finally came in the mail today from CDnow. (Warning: I dig this guy, so here are a lot of random thoughts about this.) This is really interesting, (Read "Not sure if i like it, but pretty sure i'll listen a lot to try to figure this out"). I think i like "Funfair" more so far. That earlier Tom Millar review "NOBUKAZU TAKEMURA MAKES A RECORD -a play in fifteen minutes" was actually right on the money. Lots of it sounds like alternate mixes of "Funfair." Ex: "Icefall" off Scope vs. "The Cradle of the Light" off Funfair. Takemura's definitely gone a bit further in the Oval/skippy/clicky direction. I've also recently picked up the "Child's View Remix" album and "For Tomorrow" single, from back when he did "Krush"y-Acid Jazz/Hiphop. Wondering what his old fans think of this new stuff. I'm wondering if there's anything in between these two phases, like his remixes for United Future Org and Roni Size. "Kepler" sounds kindof like these, very glockenspiely. The "Child and Magic" album maybe? Listening more, there are a few Pole-ish static things in "On a Balloon" that i hadn't heard in any of Takemura's earlier stuff. And "Taw" is just wierd. Computer Farts turn into farty processed sqpshr "Rotted" bass, back to the first farts and then Into aphex-like sound deconstruction. And then more wierd shit. At least thats how i hear it. The Millar review makes sense again "It sounds like a fax machine. If fax machines could vomit" and "So what's this song about? Constipated robots?" _________________________________ Adam Roesch / roesch@augsburg.edu University of Idaho / Moscow / ID / USA Visit my Fila Brazillia/Pork Recordings fan site: http://dogbert.augsburg.edu/~roesch/pork/ "Because success needs killing" TRICKY
1999-07-02 07:40Hrvatski>"Scope" finally came in the mail today from CDnow. >This is really interesting, (Read "No
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quoted 5 lines "Scope" finally came in the mail today from CDnow.>"Scope" finally came in the mail today from CDnow. >This is really interesting, (Read "Not sure if i like it, but pretty sure >i'll listen a lot to try to figure this out"). I think i like "Funfair" >more so far. That earlier Tom Millar review "NOBUKAZU TAKEMURA MAKES A >RECORD -a play in fifteen minutes" was actually right on the money.
I think that should read, "NOBUKAZU TAKEMURA MAKES A RECORD in fifteen minutes" One thing that completely burns me on this whole Takemura thing is how no one seems to mention either "Child & Magic" or "Milano: Music for issey Miyake Men by Naoki Takizawa", both of which REEK of pure effort & straddle the whole Terry Riley/holy minimalism angle pretty unbelievably. "Child & Magic" is definitely one for the IDM set, those familiar child-like voices & melodies, but it also features some more out-side stuff like prepared piano bits, break-squiggle & drones, all in some sort of unbelievable fidelity. So what if these records cost more, THEY'RE AMAZING. 'Scope' sounds like (& rumours have it, IS) a contract filler. The whole transaction (albeit played out in m'mind) probably went something like: Bettina: John McEntire & Jim O'Rourke say you're good. They also told me that Oval and Mouse on Mars are good, and now I like both of them. Please give me an album. Takemura: OK (ruffles around old DAT's, ala Aphex), I've found it.
quoted 3 lines Lots of it sounds like alternate mixes of "Funfair.">Lots of it sounds like alternate mixes of "Funfair." >Ex: "Icefall" off Scope vs. "The Cradle of the Light" off Funfair. >Takemura's definitely gone a bit further in the Oval/skippy/clicky direction.
Case in point.
quoted 3 lines I've also recently picked up the "Child's View Remix" album and ">I've also recently picked up the "Child's View Remix" album and "For >Tomorrow" single, from back when he did "Krush"y-Acid Jazz/Hiphop. >Wondering what his old fans think of this new stuff.
His old stuff, like "Child's View", "Child's View Remix" and even the Audio Sports records (which feature, among others, Yamatsuka Eye from the Boredoms, and at least one mix by Otomo Yoshihide) are definitely rooted in the Mo'Wax downtempo school, IMHO they're all a bit standard (other than Audio Sports) & are completely unrelated to current activity.
quoted 3 lines I'm wondering if there's anything in between these two phases, like his>I'm wondering if there's anything in between these two phases, like his >remixes for United Future Org and Roni Size. "Kepler" sounds kindof like >these, very glockenspiely. The "Child and Magic" album maybe?
The Japanese version of Tortoise's 'TNT' comes with a bonus track, a 10-minute remix of "TNT". He also did a mix for Coldcut & for the Dylan Group.... PS- Just got back from seeing Richie Hawtin/Plastikman on Decks, FX & 909. Really inspiring show, it's kind of unbelievable that ANYTHING could be so well received by such a diverse group of folks (candy ravers, student types, hippies & old men/women, cage dancers, goths, regular club folk & intellectuals, all dancing (to some extent)). He had this amazing mixer (I think it was a JVC) with all of these built in DSP's (flange, pitch, delay, distortion, sharp EQ, filter, etc...), has anyone seen this model? I'd be curious to know more about it... Anyways, his exile to Canada is over, highly reccomend seeing him when he hits yr town... -Våt ____________________ Reckankreuzungsklankewerkzeuge PO BOX 382864. Cambridge, MA 02238 http://www.tiac.net/users/sheket/index.html
1999-07-02 08:13Moonlight>One thing that completely burns me on this whole Takemura thing is how no >one seems to m
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quoted 3 lines One thing that completely burns me on this whole Takemura thing is how no>One thing that completely burns me on this whole Takemura thing is how no >one seems to mention either "Child & Magic" or "Milano: Music for issey >Miyake Men by Naoki Takizawa"
Child & Magic: hadn't heard any opinions of it and didn't feel like dropping that much for a CD with no idea of how it sounds. Will take your recommendation and seek it out. Milano: I've never heard of this. Please explain and describe.
quoted 1 line So what if these records cost more, THEY'RE AMAZING.>So what if these records cost more, THEY'RE AMAZING.
...and are much harder to find.
quoted 1 line 'Scope' sounds like (& rumours have it, IS) a contract filler.>'Scope' sounds like (& rumours have it, IS) a contract filler.
Contract filler for his first release for a label? Not that i doubt you. Considering the sounds (Funfair reworked somewhat), seems like a likely enough story.
quoted 1 line the Audio Sports records>the Audio Sports records
I have "Era of Glittering Gas." What else is there? Is there a site with more info? (Old Takemura)
quoted 2 lines IMHO they're all a bit standard & are completely unrelated to current>IMHO they're all a bit standard & are completely unrelated to current >activity.
Well, it is the same guy, i was wondering if somewhere in the middle there was a transitional album, between the styles. And i dig his earlier stuff, but one's liking of one of his styles definitely does not that one will see any merit in the other style. (Man, too much math language.) np: Jurassic 5 "J5EP" _________________________________ Adam Roesch / roesch@augsburg.edu University of Idaho / Moscow / ID / USA Visit my Fila Brazillia/Pork Recordings fan site: http://dogbert.augsburg.edu/~roesch/pork/ "Because success needs killing" TRICKY
1999-07-02 16:53eric hill>(Old Takemura) >>IMHO they're all a bit standard & are completely unrelated to current >>
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quoted 6 lines (Old Takemura)>(Old Takemura) >>IMHO they're all a bit standard & are completely unrelated to current >>activity. > >Well, it is the same guy, i was wondering if somewhere in the middle there >was a transitional album, between the styles.
i'd always thought of him as plain trip hop until i heard his track on the "pacific state" compilation. after that, the coldcut remix is much closer to the scope/meteor sound, but quite a bit of time passed between those two points, between which probably has more illustrative material. eric