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1999-06-08 14:02>daevid> from Dan Shoebridge <dis2@ukc.ac.uk>: > > On a completely unrelated note, what with ever

From:: >daevid <" <5-ht@eudoramail.com>
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Date:: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 09:02:46 -0500
Subject:: Re: (idm) jungle/d&b mc's

quoted 6 lines from Dan Shoebridge <dis2@ukc.ac.uk>:

> from Dan Shoebridge <dis2@ukc.ac.uk>: > > On a completely unrelated note, what with everyone talking about > piloerection recently, has anyone noticed the opposite feeling, where a > song is so bad it makes you cringe, grit your teeth and feel cold all > over?

yeah. any d'n'b track that still uses that damn Amen break. and Sparklehorse (who?) headlining for Mercury Rev at the Metro (Chicago) last week. daevid. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I get away with it because I can."

1999-06-08 19:15ChairCrusherOn Tue, 8 Jun 1999, >daevid< wrote: > > > from Dan Shoebridge <dis2@ukc.ac.uk>: > > > > On

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Date:: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:15:43 -0500 (CDT)
Subject:: Re: (idm) jungle/d&b mc's
Reply to:: Re: (idm) jungle/d&b mc's

On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, >daevid< wrote:

quoted 10 lines from Dan Shoebridge <dis2@ukc.ac.uk>:

> > > from Dan Shoebridge <dis2@ukc.ac.uk>: > > > > On a completely unrelated note, what with everyone talking about > > piloerection recently, has anyone noticed the opposite feeling, where a > > song is so bad it makes you cringe, grit your teeth and feel cold all > > over? > > yeah. any d'n'b track that still uses that damn Amen break. >

Errr... who has released an amen track in the last year? Sometimes after an hr of 2 step i'm ready for some amen break action. Maybe it's well played out, but in my opinion, there's no more hectic beat out there.

1999-06-09 00:53Andrew Hime> > On a completely unrelated note, what with everyone talking about > > piloerection rece

From:: Andrew Hime <hime@kali.wf.net>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 19:53:00 -0500 (CDT)
Subject:: (idm) sparklehorse
Reply to:: Re: (idm) jungle/d&b mc's

quoted 9 lines On a completely unrelated note, what with everyone talking about

> > On a completely unrelated note, what with everyone talking about > > piloerection recently, has anyone noticed the opposite feeling, where a > > song is so bad it makes you cringe, grit your teeth and feel cold all > > over? > > yeah. any d'n'b track that still uses that damn Amen break. > > and Sparklehorse (who?) headlining for Mercury Rev at the > Metro (Chicago) last week.

Heh, ask if.then.else. :) Sparklehorse are a basic pop group with a country tinge, I think they're excellent because they write songs like "Some Day I Will Treat You Good". "Pig" and "Sick of Goodbyes" on the new album are good. Still, I can see how people who even like pop music wouldn't like what they do.

1999-06-08 19:38Tom MillarI hate those songs with minor 9th chords in 'em. Actually anything in a minor key just mak

From:: Tom Millar <tmillar@utkux.utcc.utk.edu>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 15:38:44 -0400
Subject:: (idm) Re: tired of amen breaks, etc.

I hate those songs with minor 9th chords in 'em. Actually anything in a minor key just makes me sick. It's so played out, man. And 4/4 time signatures. And snare/clap hits on beats 2 and 4. And reso filters... bandpass filters on techstep basslines... the 303... the 808... anything by roland actually... and fuzz-click-pop noises... and DR packaging... minimalism... all that shit. Hate it. </sarcasm> Some things are used a lot because they _work_. I for one fully support the Amen break- If sample libraries were like bars, it would be the draft beer. Tom

1999-06-08 19:57danielI recently had a similar disucssion with someone on music. Something I think a lot of us f

From:: daniel <daniel@eliteware.com>
To:: Tom Millar <tmillar@utkux.utcc.utk.edu>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:57:18 -0500 (CDT)
Subject:: Re: (idm) Re: tired of amen breaks, etc.
Reply to:: (idm) Re: tired of amen breaks, etc.

I recently had a similar disucssion with someone on music. Something I think a lot of us forget, is that music does not always have to break or push barriers. There is no need to always reinvent the wheel. Sometimes all you need to do is to put your spin on that wheel. I have heard clever uses of the amen break (S,H&W come to mind). And other times music can just be created to be fun. That is not to say pushing barriers is not important. I think there has to be a balance. But, when someone is always looking for the next messed sound they are going to miss out on a world full of good music. One thing I have tried to do with my label is to push in both directions. That is focus on both experimental and non experimental (IE established techniques etc..) music. -daniel Head Monkey Mad Monkey Records http://monkey.eliteware.com On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, Tom Millar wrote:

quoted 17 lines I hate those songs with minor 9th chords in 'em.

> I hate those songs with minor 9th chords in 'em. > Actually anything in a minor key just makes me sick. > It's so played out, man. And 4/4 time signatures. > And snare/clap hits on beats 2 and 4. > And reso filters... bandpass filters on techstep basslines... > the 303... the 808... anything by roland actually... > and fuzz-click-pop noises... and DR packaging... minimalism... all that > shit. Hate it. > > </sarcasm> > > Some things are used a lot because they _work_. I for one fully support > the Amen break- If sample libraries were like bars, it would be the > draft beer. > > Tom >

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