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1999-05-26 21:32Tomas Jirku Re: (idm) kool kieth and the current state of hiphop
├─ 1999-05-26 23:01Maer Ben-Yisrael (idm) french rap (was ...koolkeith)
│ └─ 1999-05-27 02:59Blag Re: (idm) french rap (was ...koolkeith)
└─ 1999-05-27 06:01Sam Frank Re: (idm) kool kieth and the current state of hiphop
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1999-05-26 21:32Tomas Jirku>Lexus thug mainstream. For one thing, you need to check your local >scene -- >nearly ever
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quoted 4 lines Lexus thug mainstream. For one thing, you need to check your local >scene -->Lexus thug mainstream. For one thing, you need to check your local >scene -- >nearly everywhere has some locals struggling to make a splash, and in >my >opinion Hip Hop is like beer -- there's no substitute for drinking a >local >brew while it's fresh; fuck the packaging.
ya, maybe i don't have to check the local scene. i'm stuck with Choclair, Kaos, Kardinal Offishall (sp?), etc.. weak, weak shit.
quoted 3 lines Check, if you're interested:>Check, if you're interested: >Dr. Dooom -- Kool Keith reinvents himself again with a funny, profane >The Roots -- The Roots ALWAYS deliver, straight up. ?uestlove's live
both were discussed in the original message in this thread. as for the dr.dooom: i'd hate to have to suffer through an intrumental version. as far as i can tell, it's over in england that the hiphop sounds the freshest (by both definitions). as for their neighbours the french, unfortuantely i can't get past how silly rapping sounds en français. tomas
1999-05-26 23:01Maer Ben-Yisrael> freshest (by both definitions). as for their neighbours the french, > unfortuantely i ca
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quoted 2 lines freshest (by both definitions). as for their neighbours the french,> freshest (by both definitions). as for their neighbours the french, > unfortuantely i can't get past how silly rapping sounds en fran?ais.
I caught this weird french gansta-rap music video/movie thing on the International channel a few weeks ago. I don't know what it was called or how to get ahold of it. I was supprised how well the rhythm of the french rap fit with what was basically standard hip-hop beats. Of course, I haven't the faintest idea of what they were rapping about, but hell... I kinda dug it. -Ma'er...
1999-05-27 02:59BlagLa Cliqua are pretty dope (and don't sound like beret-wearing tossers) but I've only heard
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La Cliqua are pretty dope (and don't sound like beret-wearing tossers) but I've only heard one song (which is on the import edition of the 'La Haine' soundtrack) and I've never been able to find anything else :/ It sounds pretty hardcore, but I have no idea what it's about (probably shopping for berets with Bill Laswell, or something) .Bil. IAMaCOPIER
1999-05-27 06:01Sam Frank> as far as i can tell, it's over in england that the hiphop sounds the > freshest (by bot
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Thu, 27 May 1999 02:01:36 -0400 (EDT)
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quoted 4 lines as far as i can tell, it's over in england that the hiphop sounds the> as far as i can tell, it's over in england that the hiphop sounds the > freshest (by both definitions). as for their neighbours the french, > unfortuantely i can't get past how silly rapping sounds en fran?ais. >
I'm really curious about something. How prevalent is hip-hop, American or otherwise, in England's various pop music outlets (MTV, radio, concerts, etc)? In America it's become the pop music that dominates all others, except among a certain cross-section of teenagers who like their teenybopper pop. But it's certainly more popular than most crappy alt-rock. IMO that's a great thing, because no matter how bad pop hip-hop gets, at least you can dance to it, whereas with 3rd Eye Blind, there's no recourse except hiding in a corner. I ask because it seems like British hip-hop will never get to be amazing unless it acquires a mass popularity there. I mean, an artist here or there, sure. But the reason for US hip-hop's continual self- renewal is that it has so many fans, and thus so many creators. Same way with techno in the UK--our scene will never be great until techno becomes the music of choice from cradle to grave for a large percentage of Americans. It's a matter of exposure, I'd think. Submersion in a certain genre leads to a deeper understanding of the genre's possibilities, and a greater mastery of its vocabulary. So what Brit rappers are genuinely good, and not just novelty items? Lewis parker... Who else? Sam PS--if I sent you a copy of my paper, I'd appreciate any response/comments. Criticize the fuck out of it if you want, but I'd like to know what youi thought, even if only briefly.
1999-05-27 05:23..:¨· .¨·:: .·:.>as for their neighbours the french, > unfortuantely i can't get past how silly >rapping s
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quoted 2 lines as for their neighbours the french,>as for their neighbours the french, > unfortuantely i can't get past how silly >rapping sounds en français.
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