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1999-05-25 15:57Graham VoiceTalking about messed up record speeds I was tempted the other day by a very interesting it

From:: Graham Voice <Graham@4hml.com>
To:: 'martin wood' <martin.wood@advent-comm.co.uk>, talking in circles <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 25 May 1999 16:57:33 +0100
Subject:: RE: (idm) vinyl

Talking about messed up record speeds I was tempted the other day by a very interesting item. Basically someone had taken an old Beach Boys track (Good Vibrations if memory serves) and played it at 1 rpm on a specially adapted turntable. The resultant "noise" was then released as a CD album, sounding a bit like Pee Namlook no doubt. (Awaiting Anti-Fax flames as we speak) Question - The Two Lone Swordsmen mix of Ganger's Trilogy, 33 or 45? Graham

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> -----Original Message----- > From: martin wood [SMTP:martin.wood@advent-comm.co.uk] > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 4:55 PM > To: talking in circles > Subject: Re: (idm) vinyl > > definitely, music is subjective anyway....im looking forward to the > integration > of java into embedded systems, so that you can write your own > controller for > digital (and analogue as well, i spose) devices...being able to tweak > the > cd-players error correction algorithm has got to be a good thing... > sorry ....going off on one a bit.... > > david turgeon wrote: > > > > its a shame that record players dont all come with a 25 rpm mode > or > > > something, cos loads of stuff sounds much better slow...like > in-sync : the > > > calling....absolutely amazing at 33...(cheers graham) > > > > i've seen an old turntable that came with 16 rpm & (obviously) 78 > rpm > > switches, as well as the usual 33/45 combo. however, its sound is > > pretty damn crappy & the thing cannot really used for anything other > > than noise, so i don't know if there's specific models which can > still > > be used today. however, it makes some records sound quite > > outerworldish. an old womack & womack 45, for example, can sound > quite > > dark & menacing at 16 rpm. > > > > & as for 78, that's instant drum n bass or instant hardcore for ya. > > > > i'm beginning to think that no one should put the "right" bpm on > > abstract electronic records. it's always so subject to > interpretation. > > plus it's like having 2 records in one (or 4 if you have the 16/78 > > switch). > > > > -- > > david turgeon at http://www.notype.com

1999-05-25 16:18danielOn Tue, 25 May 1999, Graham Voice wrote: > > Talking about messed up record speeds I was t

From:: daniel <daniel@eliteware.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 25 May 1999 11:18:09 -0500 (CDT)
Subject:: RE: (idm) vinyl
Reply to:: RE: (idm) vinyl

On Tue, 25 May 1999, Graham Voice wrote:

quoted 7 lines Talking about messed up record speeds I was tempted the other day by a

> > Talking about messed up record speeds I was tempted the other day by a > very interesting item. Basically someone had taken an old Beach Boys > track (Good Vibrations if memory serves) and played it at 1 rpm on a > specially adapted turntable. The resultant "noise" was then released as > a CD album, sounding a bit like Pee Namlook no doubt. (Awaiting Anti-Fax > flames as we speak)

stock, hausen and walkmen did this. I beleive it was only released as a 7 inch single. It was done for a sound installation. I have been meaning to get this..

quoted 2 lines Question - The Two Lone Swordsmen mix of Ganger's Trilogy, 33 or 45?

> Question - The Two Lone Swordsmen mix of Ganger's Trilogy, 33 or 45? >

I think I play this at 45. Will have to check tonight.. -daniel Head Monkey Mad Monkey Records http://monkey.eliteware.com

1999-05-25 18:22Andrew Hime> > Talking about messed up record speeds I was tempted the other day by a > > very intere

From:: Andrew Hime <hime@kali.wf.net>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:22:03 -0500 (CDT)
Subject:: Re: (idm) vinyl
Reply to:: RE: (idm) vinyl

quoted 10 lines Talking about messed up record speeds I was tempted the other day by a

> > Talking about messed up record speeds I was tempted the other day by a > > very interesting item. Basically someone had taken an old Beach Boys > > track (Good Vibrations if memory serves) and played it at 1 rpm on a > > specially adapted turntable. The resultant "noise" was then released as > > a CD album, sounding a bit like Pee Namlook no doubt. (Awaiting Anti-Fax > > flames as we speak) > > stock, hausen and walkmen did this. I beleive it was only released as a 7 > inch single. It was done for a sound installation. I have been meaning > to get this..

I've heard it. Have a friend who has it, and he brought it over and we plunked it down. It's not recorded all that well or something, but it's not very interesting. I was really disappointed, since I had heard such good things about SH&W. However, I realize it's a concept piece so I can't judge them based on that. Packaging is really cool, though. Oh, and the B-side is at 2 rpm.

1999-05-25 19:07danielAndrew Hime wrote: > I've heard it. Have a friend who has it, and he brought it over and w

From:: daniel <daniel@eliteware.com>
To:: Andrew Hime <hime@kali.wf.net>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 25 May 1999 14:07:33 -0500 (CDT)
Subject:: SH&W recommendations (was Re: (idm) vinyl)
Reply to:: Re: (idm) vinyl

Andrew Hime wrote:

quoted 9 lines I've heard it. Have a friend who has it, and he brought it over and we

> I've heard it. Have a friend who has it, and he brought it over and we > plunked it down. It's not recorded all that well or something, but it's > not very interesting. I was really disappointed, since I had heard such > good things about SH&W. However, I realize it's a concept piece so I can't > judge them based on that. Packaging is really cool, though. > > Oh, and the B-side is at 2 rpm. > >

this is not how stock, hausen and walkman sound. Recommendations: SH&W-My Bag CD/LP SH&W-Empty Box 10 Inch Dummy Run - self titled CD* SH&W-brocoloi 7 inch SH&W-7 inch release on slut smalls with a killer anthony childs song on the flip side. *dummy run is either an alias for sh&w or parts of sh&w are involved. Either way it is great. what they do with the sampler is amazing. -daniel Head Monkey Mad Monkey Records http://monkey.eliteware.com

1999-05-25 18:47Lance @ InaudibleAt 11:18 AM 5/25/99 -0500, you wrote: > >> >> Talking about messed up record speeds I was

From:: Lance @ Inaudible <mclance@nacs.net>
To:: daniel <daniel@eliteware.com>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 25 May 1999 14:47:36 -0400
Subject:: RE: (idm) Good Vibrations 7"

At 11:18 AM 5/25/99 -0500, you wrote:

quoted 13 lines Talking about messed up record speeds I was tempted the other day by a

> >> >> Talking about messed up record speeds I was tempted the other day by a >> very interesting item. Basically someone had taken an old Beach Boys >> track (Good Vibrations if memory serves) and played it at 1 rpm on a >> specially adapted turntable. The resultant "noise" was then released as >> a CD album, sounding a bit like Pee Namlook no doubt. (Awaiting Anti-Fax >> flames as we speak) > >stock, hausen and walkmen did this. I beleive it was only released as a 7 >inch single. It was done for a sound installation. I have been meaning >to get this.. >

Actually it's "Good Vibrations at 1&2 rpms." I'm lucky enough to have this one but i had to pay a pretty penny for it. You cant imagine what playing a track at 1&2 rpms will do to a song. Instead of a poppy Beach Boys song, 1&2 rpms turns Good Vibrations into a dark rumbling glitchy soundscape that would normally be reserved artists/labels like ost, coil, lustmord, mego, dorobo, miau miau international and maybe vinyl communications. For me it's an impressive 7"... You can listen to it yourself in RA at: http://www.mdos.at/detail-bytitle.php3?pid=830 -->-Lance--- mclance@nacs.net lance@inaudible.com p.o. box 450715 westlake, ohio 44145 united states

RE: (idm) Good Vibrations 7"