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1999-05-07 22:13Gareth Metford (idm) drum & bass etc.
└─ 1999-05-07 22:25Nate Harrison \[Toshok Laboratories\] Re: (idm) drum & bass etc.
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1999-05-07 22:13Gareth MetfordSorry if this thread has evaporated by now...I keep forgetting that you can't just hit 're
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Fri, 7 May 1999 23:13:58 +0100
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(idm) drum & bass etc.
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Sorry if this thread has evaporated by now...I keep forgetting that you can't just hit 'reply' with this list...
quoted 3 lines the 12" yr referring to is by Collapsed Lung, and i do beleive it was> the 12" yr referring to is by Collapsed Lung, and i do beleive it was > released in late 97. The female vocals are actually by Blinda Butcher of > My Bloody Valentine...
Cheers to Doug and Mr. E for the info on this one. Bilinda Butcher - fuck! No wonder it's good.
quoted 5 lines I haven't seen anyone mention Bark Psychosis, a serious oversight IMO.>I haven't seen anyone mention Bark Psychosis, a serious oversight IMO. >I've been caning Hex for the past month or so. It's nothing like the >Boymerang stuff at all - it's the record that prompted Simon Reynolds >to coin the term "post-rock." Brilliant stuff, highly recomended >particularly to fans of late Talk Talk.
I second that. As well as Hex, if you ever see a copy of the 'Independency' compilation CD or the 'Scum' 12", snap it up. 'Scum' is a 20-minute long epic that certainly fits the term 'post-rock', and wipes out Tortoise's over-hyped 'Djed' anyday. A very important record in my adolescence that one!
quoted 2 lines why do junglists tend to be such genre purists, much to the>why do junglists tend to be such genre purists, much to the >full-album-listener's chagrin?
The point with jungle is sustained intensity. Just like most other dance-based musics, it's effectively a meta-music, functioning most effectively on the level of the mix rather than the individual track. Also, as Reynolds has repeatedly pointed out, jungle is as much about commitment to a particular lifestyle as it is about music. This isn't necessarily a weakness - it's a sense of commitment, of *meaningfulness* that makes 'scene' d&b infinitely stronger than the dabblings of dilettantes (eg Underworld on 'Second Toughest', any number of fuzak types from '95-'96, now forgotten). Those jungle artists who *have* successfully used their albums to diversify into areas like hip hop and electro are those whose music already bore substantial traces of those sounds, and hence were able to maintain a sense of continuity over the length of the album - T Power is the obvious example here.
quoted 3 lines Thanks for warning me away from his album, i've been considering it ever>Thanks for warning me away from his album, i've been considering it ever >since i heard his great remix of the Goldie/KRS-One song "Digital", which >you failed to mention.
The 'Digital' remix is basically a pretty transparent rewrite of his 'Technology' mix, though it's still good. Despite what other people have been saying about 'Balance of the Force', I still think it's useless. All the good tracks (eg 'Still', the one based on the Sufi remix) are old ones which had previously been released elsewhere, either under the Boymerang name or as remixes. The other 60% of the album is basically piss-weak Bukem impersonations. Of course, if you haven't got 'Still' it's worth getting just for that track alone. Gareth -- Gareth Metford (Nonlinear) Nonlinear website: http://www.qubit.demon.co.uk/nonlinear Listen to the new Nonlinear single, 'Angles' / 'Against the Funk' at: http://www.mp3.com/nonlinear (MP3) http://www.qubit.demon.co.uk/nonlinear/downloads.html (RealAudio)
1999-05-07 22:25Nate Harrison \[Toshok Laboratories\]>"The other 60% of the album is basically piss-weak Bukem >impersonations." IMHO I disagre
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Re: (idm) drum & bass etc.
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quoted 2 lines "The other 60% of the album is basically piss-weak Bukem>"The other 60% of the album is basically piss-weak Bukem >impersonations."
IMHO I disagree....the Sutton material is so much more developed then any LTJ stuff...LTJ material always maintains a certain degree of 'clubbishness', while I feel Balance is much more a listening disc...sure you have the long winded strings and simple riffs with lots of delay and reverb, but for the similarities end there...LTJ writes tracks, Boyemrang writes songs...but then again what a boring list if we all always felt the same about music... peace Nate