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1999-04-22 13:56Rodney Perkins Re: (idm) randomized thoughts on idm, 'pi' and hollywood
1999-04-22 14:06martin wood Re: (idm) randomized thoughts on idm, 'pi' and hollywood
└─ 1999-04-22 15:02Jeff Pitrman Re: (idm) randomized thoughts on idm, 'pi' and hollywood
1999-04-23 00:20Jonathan Takagi (idm) Gummo
1999-04-23 07:45Mikebee RE: (idm) Gummo
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1999-04-22 13:56Rodney PerkinsMy two favorites soundtrack artists are Goblin and Bernard Hermann. Can't envision "Suspir
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My two favorites soundtrack artists are Goblin and Bernard Hermann. Can't envision "Suspiria," "Psycho," "North by Northwest" or "Taxi Driver" without those pumping, slashing scores. I would say the first two flicks are the best examples. I love Ennio Morricone but after the spaghetti westerns, his stuff seriously lagged. Exorcist II had some fun stuff but it kind of sounded like a bad Goblin rip-off.
quoted 30 lines Apparently none of these people learned from the genius that happens when>> >> Apparently none of these people learned from the genius that happens when >> one person is allowed to score a movie...best example in my book as the >> ultimate music complimenting film and vice versa would have to be all the >> Sergio Leone / Ennio Morricone projects. Let's face it, close ups of >> Eastwood / Van Cleef eyes and sweating foreheads for 5 minutes is only >> made exciting by how awesome Morricones score was. Come to think of it, I >> bet those soundtracks sold extremely well. There is a lesson here someone >> in Hollywood is ignoring. > > second best example: isaac hayes' score for shaft, which did quite well > and was quite influential as an album in its own right. > > third best example: wendy carlos' score for "a clockwork orange", a film > which scores bonus points for incorporating pop songs (though not in the > hollywood product placement manner) along with its score. > > jeff is right. the lesson is being ignored, and the more recent ones of > "reality bites" and "pulp fiction" (collections of unrelated songs selling > big) are being slavishly followed in the assembly of soundtracks now. i > think there's a bit of a movement back towards thoughtful interaction > with film...john mcentire's recent score for reach the rock, some other > stuff i'm forgetting. > > basically, it's gonna take one of "us" to make it as a filmmaker first! > > rob > (who would give his first born child to get amon tobin to score his film) > >
1999-04-22 14:06martin woodhas anyone out there seen gummo?...i thought the soundtrack to that was brilliant....even
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martin wood
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Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:06:03 +0100
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Re: (idm) randomized thoughts on idm, 'pi' and hollywood
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has anyone out there seen gummo?...i thought the soundtrack to that was brilliant....even though its more of a collection of tracks by various artists...it very well done...(i thought the film was superb as well...)....maybe its the death metal tracks that do it for me...but some really good noisy bits...the whole thing sort of reminds me of a sebadoh album in film... Rodney Perkins wrote:
quoted 39 lines My two favorites soundtrack artists are Goblin and Bernard Hermann. Can't> My two favorites soundtrack artists are Goblin and Bernard Hermann. Can't > envision "Suspiria," "Psycho," "North by Northwest" or "Taxi Driver" without > those pumping, slashing scores. I would say the first two flicks are the > best examples. > > I love Ennio Morricone but after the spaghetti westerns, his stuff seriously > lagged. Exorcist II had some fun stuff but it kind of sounded like a bad > Goblin rip-off. > > >> > >> Apparently none of these people learned from the genius that happens when > >> one person is allowed to score a movie...best example in my book as the > >> ultimate music complimenting film and vice versa would have to be all the > >> Sergio Leone / Ennio Morricone projects. Let's face it, close ups of > >> Eastwood / Van Cleef eyes and sweating foreheads for 5 minutes is only > >> made exciting by how awesome Morricones score was. Come to think of it, I > >> bet those soundtracks sold extremely well. There is a lesson here someone > >> in Hollywood is ignoring. > > > > second best example: isaac hayes' score for shaft, which did quite well > > and was quite influential as an album in its own right. > > > > third best example: wendy carlos' score for "a clockwork orange", a film > > which scores bonus points for incorporating pop songs (though not in the > > hollywood product placement manner) along with its score. > > > > jeff is right. the lesson is being ignored, and the more recent ones of > > "reality bites" and "pulp fiction" (collections of unrelated songs selling > > big) are being slavishly followed in the assembly of soundtracks now. i > > think there's a bit of a movement back towards thoughtful interaction > > with film...john mcentire's recent score for reach the rock, some other > > stuff i'm forgetting. > > > > basically, it's gonna take one of "us" to make it as a filmmaker first! > > > > rob > > (who would give his first born child to get amon tobin to score his film) > > > >
1999-04-22 15:02Jeff PitrmanAt 03:06 PM 4/22/99 +0100, martin wood wrote: >has anyone out there seen gummo?...i though
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martin wood , talking in circles
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Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:02:53 -0700
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Re: (idm) randomized thoughts on idm, 'pi' and hollywood
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At 03:06 PM 4/22/99 +0100, martin wood wrote:
quoted 4 lines has anyone out there seen gummo?...i thought the soundtrack to that was>has anyone out there seen gummo?...i thought the soundtrack to that was >brilliant....even though its more of a collection of tracks by various >artists...it very well done...(i thought the film was superb as >well...)....maybe its the death metal tracks that do it for me...but some
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quoted 2 lines good noisy bits...the whole thing sort of reminds me of a sebadoh album in>good noisy bits...the whole thing sort of reminds me of a sebadoh album in >film...
Gummo is the *shiznit*, definitely everyone should see it. The music is indeed an example of soundtrack working with the movie, though I wish they had picked different tracks to play during the movie. That one Bethlehem (ecch) track got played three times (when they break into the kid's grandma's house, when the kid is breaking glass to kill cats, and when they're whipping the dead cat), and the Nifelheim and Bathory et al. tracks weren't really featured. oh well. The soundtrack is easily gettable, incidentally, if anyone out there wants it. Even cdnow has it. My favorite part was the little bit with the film clips of the guy talking about serving satan, the old skool 16th (?) century drawing of satan, and that guy carving the word 'SLAYER' into his arm. Too too too funny. But I guess this has nothing to do with IDM. Forget the wendy carlos, who's the Motorhead of IDM? ;) J6e6f6f ---- "According to the law of primogeniture this moon-cheese is mine. The UN? Ha! I spit on the UN!" [Pokey the Penguin] 5678>> http://www.pobox.com/~jpitrman/
1999-04-23 00:20Jonathan Takagimartin wood wrote: > > has anyone out there seen gummo?... "Gummo" is a good example to gi
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Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:20:23 -0700
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martin wood wrote:
quoted 2 lines has anyone out there seen gummo?...> > has anyone out there seen gummo?...
"Gummo" is a good example to give anyone who thinks that Hollywood won't do anything daring or unconventional anymore. If everyone involved with that film kept their job, I'd say Hollywood is a pretty okay place. Harmony Korine is one of the new American members (along with Paul Morrisey) of Dogma95, and his new film will be called "Julien", again with Chloë Sevigny. It is a Dogma95-compliant film. When I saw Korine at Telluride, he was talking of a new brand of "mistakist" cinema, which consists of giving everyone cameras and letting them film whatever they want, while he pieces it together in the editing room. Seeing him raise his fist as anarchy broke out in a discussion with Oliver Stone, Paul Schrader and John Sayles is still a high point in my memory. Jonathan ps the part with Slayer being carved into the arm comes direct from a Slayer video, I don't think Korine filmed it. pps there is another Scandinavian movement, this time pertaining to techno, called Dogma99. Its future seems less certain.
1999-04-23 07:45Mikebeeyou forgot to mention korine's raging rock habit ps if i wanted to watch gummo i'd have mo
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Mikebee
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idm@hyperreal.org
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Fri, 23 Apr 1999 00:45:24 -0700
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you forgot to mention korine's raging rock habit ps if i wanted to watch gummo i'd have moved back home...shall we move to something more on-topic-like? mb
1999-04-23 16:06MuUuAaAaHh@aol.comsorry to ask this...but could whoever sent the original Gummo post please send it to me as
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Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:06:47 EDT
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sorry to ask this...but could whoever sent the original Gummo post please send it to me as somehow i missed it the first time around....??? believe it or not, harmony korine lived for a while in nashville, tennessee and a lot of things that happened in kids actually did happen there...(the skateboard fight...and a few other things) and one of the scenes was filmed in my friends apartment down there... ive heard that Gummo was also based on the happenings around Xenia, OH after the big tornado hit there.... considering the fact that i lived in memphis for such a long time and now i live in cincinnati parttime when im not in school, it makes me wonder...because it's so close to home and you only like to pretend those things happen in places like new york or la.... sorry about the non-related post but i mostly just want the previous post.... thank you lauryn