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I received "Strange Cargo" this week, which is out on reprint and was dramatically surprised. I haven't had much of a taste for Orbit's stuff. Bassomatic was cool, but not all around fabulous, and Guerilla has more misses than hits for me. BUT THIS!! "Strange Cargo" has instrumentation of Stewart Copelandian proportions. Recorded in 1987, it seems to be free of all dance cliches and instead just rips the walls down with sound. Has anyone purchases "Water From a Vine Leaf" or whatever his last single was? Is there anything else along the "Strange Cargo" lines?

I picked up Strange Cargo III by William Orbit, and I consider it one of my best CD purchases of the year. There doesn't seem to be much discussion of Mr. Orbit on this list, nor uk-dance or alt.rave. Does anyone else have Strange Cargo III? Is this considered i.d.m.? How does SCI and SCII compare to SCIII? It really is a great album, y'all should look for it in your friendly neighborhood music store. ----- Bob Weisend rweisend@oboe.aix.calpoly.edu

quoted 5 lines I picked up Strange Cargo III by William Orbit, and I consider it one of my

> I picked up Strange Cargo III by William Orbit, and I consider it one of my > best CD purchases of the year. There doesn't seem to be much discussion > of Mr. Orbit on this list, nor uk-dance or alt.rave. Does anyone else > have Strange Cargo III? Is this considered i.d.m.? How does SCI and SCII > compare to SCIII?

Around the inception of IDM, there was a lively discussion regarding Strange Cargo I. I concur with your review of SCIII. Definitely one of my favorites for this year. I wish the vid would come out NTSC.

In article <9401202248.AA42638@tuba.aix.calpoly.edu>, <rweisend@tuba.aix.calpoly.edu> wrote:

quoted 5 lines I picked up Strange Cargo III by William Orbit, and I consider it one of my

>I picked up Strange Cargo III by William Orbit, and I consider it one of my >best CD purchases of the year. There doesn't seem to be much discussion >of Mr. Orbit on this list, nor uk-dance or alt.rave. Does anyone else >have Strange Cargo III? Is this considered i.d.m.? How does SCI and SCII >compare to SCIII?

There have been occasional outbreaks of Mr Orbit on UK-Dance - reviews of the Water From A Vine Leaf single and Strange Cargo III have appeared along with a couple of other comments. SC I and II are in much the same vein as III, though with more of a tendancy towards MOR in places - they appeared on IRS's 'new age' label. :-( There are some good tracks on both though, with probably I being the better. You can hear ideas he later developed in Bassomatic and a couple of the tracks were big amongst Balearic DJs at the time. III is funkier and Water From a Vine Leaf is one of my favourites from last year - particularly From: ??? Date: ??? Subject: ??? Status:

That was definatley one of the best albums last year. I think William Orbit is a genius.

William Orbit started off as a programer. As you said,he done programming on the US album. He done a lot of work with Peter Gabriel and many other people.

Tai Nguyen writes:

quoted 3 lines i've heard a lot of people having orgasms over Willy Orbit but

> i've heard a lot of people having orgasms over Willy Orbit but >since i've never heard any of his stuff (actually i probably have but not >realized it), could someone describe his style to me? comparisons to other

"Well, here I am, a 53 year old sound engineer with more money than the king of Dubai. A former record producer for Belinda Carlisle. What now? Oh, I know. I'll make one of those Enigma records. Trance ambient jungle, or whatever it's called. A couple of chords on the synthesizer will do. Yeah man, really getting into that Andreas Vollenweider feeling. And maybe I'll put some ethnic samples in, I've heard that's what cool people do. Shirley, would you put the kettle on! I'll be in the basement making an ambient record this afternoon!" Yowsah. William Orbit.

quoted 1 line maybe i should stick to the mindless hardcore that i know better...

> maybe i should stick to the mindless hardcore that i know better...

A much wiser choice. - chris@minsk.docs.uu.se

Chris: He did produce several records for Belinda Carlisle, though. ;-) ======== I'd shag her :)

Well, it looks like "Water From A Vine Leaf" is climbing the American charts. Not that I don't get sick whenever that happens to a track that is almost a year old.

To those still interested in knowing more about Sir William, check out URB Magazine's issue #35. (Bless their little...) No discography but some to let you know more about the man and his music. Reynold (Still doin' the check-up from the neck up)

has anyone heard his new one, with all of the covers (gorecki's third symphony comes to mind)? i haven't, so please allay my fear that the walter/wendy carlos school of 'classical electronics' may return with a new, ugly vigor. yours, niall. ps the sales link below should work. if it doesn't, i dunno... home cd-recording is killing the auction industry. please stop the insanity! --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites.

from rich burly if 4/18/00 2:50 PM then zombiefodder@yahoo.com

quoted 4 lines has anyone heard his new one, with all of the covers (gorecki's third symphony

> has anyone heard his new one, with all of the covers (gorecki's third symphony > comes to mind)? > i haven't, so please allay my fear that the walter/wendy carlos school of > 'classical electronics' may return with a new, ugly vigor.

I was just listening to it all night! I really like it, though Will Orbit is somewhat limp compared to Wendy Carlos, his arrangements are infact quite pretty... I'd certainly recommend it, it's at least good for washing the squarepusher out of your ears! Very mellow and subdued. -Gropo 209.6.182.146 http://www.gropo.com MP3 RadioCast: http://216.32.166.75:8774 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

it was sumed up perfectly in a review I saw, something to the effect of... "why would anyone want to turn John Cage into something that sounds like a soundtrack for a Lifetime Network movie about cancer" I actually don't mind some of William Orbit's early stuff, but thank you I'll stick to listening to Cage.... I mean c'mon if Yanni had done this it wouldn't be so exciting, but because it's something done by someone relativly hip in the pop world all of a sudden it's revolutinary composer type hype. Jeff

quoted 26 lines from rich burly if 4/18/00 2:50 PM then zombiefodder@yahoo.com

>from rich burly if 4/18/00 2:50 PM then zombiefodder@yahoo.com > >> has anyone heard his new one, with all of the covers (gorecki's third >symphony >> comes to mind)? >> i haven't, so please allay my fear that the walter/wendy carlos school of >> 'classical electronics' may return with a new, ugly vigor. > >I was just listening to it all night! I really like it, though Will Orbit >is somewhat limp compared to Wendy Carlos, his arrangements are infact quite >pretty... > >I'd certainly recommend it, it's at least good for washing the squarepusher >out of your ears! Very mellow and subdued. > > >-Gropo > >209.6.182.146 > >http://www.gropo.com > >MP3 RadioCast: http://216.32.166.75:8774 > > >

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I think his latest LP sucks ... Just my opinion (I used to like all his earlier stuff). Ben http://www.wsound.com

Here's a reply to the message "Re: [idm] William Orbit" written on Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:33:55 -0400 (EDT):

quoted 3 lines I agree. Doesn't he do a goa trance version of Odazio for strings? That

>I agree. Doesn't he do a goa trance version of Odazio for strings? That >right there implies his album definitely sucks. Just my opinion (I >used to like earlier stuff also).

How early are you talking here? I thought his Strange Cargo stuff was mediocre at best, but his Bassomatic stuff was fucking tops. -- Mark Stevens http://www.headspin.clara.net/ http://pressx.cjb.net/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

I was sent a Czech newspaper article about this... Vladimír Vlašak warbled on about Orbit's antecedents for a couple of paragraphs (Rick Wakeman!), then this: 'Orbit, real name William Wainright, didn't want to take classical pieces apart, destroy them with unnatural sounds or turn them into some kind of avant garde creations. On the album Pieces in a Modern Style, Orbit's approach is in fact very conservative and delicate - especially in view of the possibilities open to him through modern technology ... Orbit used classical strings for the 10 minute Adagio for Strings by Samuel Barber, which was issued as a single at the end of last year to fit with the Christmas mood and as a trailer for the album. The music engenders the feeling of a space filled with an elevating and all-embracing mood which strengthens progressively into a sense almost of longing, which could almost be kitsch-like, but is kept from sentimentality by Orbit's skilful handling.' Rubbish. I heard the trancy 'Adagio for Strings' on Radio 1... Barber is rotating in his grave fast enough to power a generator. It was extremely competent trance, yes, but bombastically inappropriate to the original. The contrast between energetic synths and elegiac strings is just too much, and worryingly populist at that. Now, a minimal version in the same vein as SAWII CD2 track2... that would be good. Anyone want to do one? Actually, I admit I haven't heard the album, so this might be unfair; but if this is what he chooses as his example... James Roberts www.listen.to/isds 'Like a toaster each month we hand him over' --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

LISTEN.... if you guys don't stop knocking the new Bill Orbit album I'm gonna give all you ninnies SUCH A PINCH! aww... whatsamadda? no BeAtZ!? well tough POO! This music is *NOT* Rotted One Note! -Gropo 209.6.182.146 http://www.gropo.com MP3 RadioCast: http://216.32.166.75:8774 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Goa-trance version of "Adagio for Strings". Nothing more needs to be said. On Fri, 21 Apr 2000, Gropo Vectormonkey wrote:

quoted 29 lines LISTEN....

> LISTEN.... > > if you guys don't stop knocking the new Bill Orbit album I'm gonna give all > you ninnies SUCH A PINCH! > > aww... whatsamadda? no BeAtZ!? > > well tough POO! > > This music is *NOT* Rotted One Note! > > > -Gropo > > 209.6.182.146 > > http://www.gropo.com > > MP3 RadioCast: http://216.32.166.75:8774 > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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"The trancy 'Adagio for Strings' on Radio 1" is the Ferry Corsten Remix, take that in note. The video also featured this remix, not the original Orbit creation. ----- Original Message ----- From: "ISDS" <isds@robertsyork.freeserve.co.uk> To: "ELM List" <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2000 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [idm] William Orbit

quoted 36 lines I was sent a Czech newspaper article about this... Vladimír Vla?ak warbled

> I was sent a Czech newspaper article about this... Vladimír Vla?ak warbled > on about Orbit's antecedents for a couple of paragraphs (Rick Wakeman!), > then this: > > 'Orbit, real name William Wainright, didn't want to take classical pieces > apart, destroy them with unnatural sounds or turn them into some kind of > avant garde creations. On the album Pieces in a Modern Style, Orbit's > approach is in fact very conservative and delicate - especially in view of > the possibilities open to him through modern technology ... Orbit used > classical strings for the 10 minute Adagio for Strings by Samuel Barber, > which was issued as a single at the end of last year to fit with the > Christmas mood and as a trailer for the album. The music engenders the > feeling of a space filled with an elevating and all-embracing mood which > strengthens progressively into a sense almost of longing, which could almost > be kitsch-like, but is kept from sentimentality by Orbit's skilful > handling.' > > Rubbish. I heard the trancy 'Adagio for Strings' on Radio 1... Barber is > rotating in his grave fast enough to power a generator. It was extremely > competent trance, yes, but bombastically inappropriate to the original. The > contrast between energetic synths and elegiac strings is just too much, and > worryingly populist at that. Now, a minimal version in the same vein as > SAWII CD2 track2... that would be good. Anyone want to do one? > > Actually, I admit I haven't heard the album, so this might be unfair; but if > this is what he chooses as his example... > > James Roberts > www.listen.to/isds > 'Like a toaster each month we hand him over' > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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My god, please PAY ATTENTION. "Goa-trance version of 'Adagio for Strings'" = The FERRY CORSTEN Remix. It IS NOT the original Orbit creation. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Adamczyk" <maa5@acsu.buffalo.edu> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2000 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [idm] William Orbit

quoted 40 lines Goa-trance version of "Adagio for Strings". Nothing more needs to be said.

> > Goa-trance version of "Adagio for Strings". Nothing more needs to be said. > > On Fri, 21 Apr 2000, Gropo Vectormonkey wrote: > > > LISTEN.... > > > > if you guys don't stop knocking the new Bill Orbit album I'm gonna give all > > you ninnies SUCH A PINCH! > > > > aww... whatsamadda? no BeAtZ!? > > > > well tough POO! > > > > This music is *NOT* Rotted One Note! > > > > > > -Gropo > > > > 209.6.182.146 > > > > http://www.gropo.com > > > > MP3 RadioCast: http://216.32.166.75:8774 > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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from Mattias Viklund if 4/21/00 4:53 PM then matte.viklund@telia.com

quoted 2 lines My god, please PAY ATTENTION. "Goa-trance version of 'Adagio for Strings'&q

> My god, please PAY ATTENTION. "Goa-trance version of 'Adagio for Strings'" = > The FERRY CORSTEN Remix. It IS NOT the original Orbit creation.

O.K. .... have you HEARD the rest of the album? I don't really CARE who produced what... The Vivaldi number kicks my ass! -Gropo 209.6.182.146 http://www.gropo.com MP3 RadioCast: http://216.32.166.75:8774 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org