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quoted 6 lines One question--has a bizarre rapper like Kool Keith ever had beats that

>One question--has a bizarre rapper like Kool Keith ever had beats that >adequately deal with his rapping style? The production on the Dr Octagon >album was great, but it seemed of a slightly diffreent mindset than >Keith's rapping, and that's why so many people seemed to like the beats, >but not his raps. I'd love to see him rap over completely freeform >arrangements--lyrical determinism, if you will.

the only example i can think of is Sir Menelik's "Space Cadillac," featuring Kool Keith. That's not really a case of "lyrical determinism," but it does showcase a pretty radically different style of production than the Dr. Octagon stuff. p

The new Kool Keith album "Black Elvis/Lost in Space" is reportedly produced by him, though it does sound similar to Dr. Octagon -- maybe a bit more electro and less hip-hop. And dig the track titles: Supergalactic Lover, I'm Seein' Robots, Keith Turbo, Rockets on the Battlefield. Here's some quotes from an interview... "I'm the opposite guy who's gonna make it happen. I'll make red go with purple." -- Kool Keith Kool Keith says he decided to "kill" Dr. Octagon after "the whole circumference of the project became a nightmare," but an equally significant explanation was his need to move on. "I'm against the norm," he says. "I get off on being different." For Black Elvis, Kool Keith had even more creative control than on his previous recordings. "All the other albums -- the Dr. Octagon thing, the Kool Keith solo joint and even the Ultramagnetics -- were just other people's things that I rapped on," he had said previously, referring to the producers who laid down the beats for those albums -- the Automator, Kut Masta Kurt and Ced Gee. "This [new album] is all me. I did the drum programming, a little keyboards, almost everything. It's all Black Elvis." .John.

On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Moonlight wrote:

quoted 6 lines the only example i can think of is Sir Menelik's "Space Cadillac," featurin

> >the only example i can think of is Sir Menelik's "Space Cadillac," featuring > >Kool Keith. > > Any connection to "Object Unknown" by DJ Spooky feat. Sir Menelik and Kool > Keith? In that song, Menelik talks a lot about his space cadillac. > Is this like a different version?

Sir Menelik is basically awful and uncreative. All he ever seems to rap about is his fucking space cadillac. He's not a poor man's Kool keith--he's a broke Kool Keith.