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1999-04-12 21:32Rjyan C Kidwell RE: (idm) reynolds vs reynolds
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1999-04-12 21:32Rjyan C Kidwell>Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:35:02 EDT >From: BigKumquat@aol.com >Subject: (idm) reynolds ve
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quoted 8 lines Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:35:02 EDT>Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:35:02 EDT >From: BigKumquat@aol.com >Subject: (idm) reynolds versus reynolds > ><<How does the use or abuse of various narcotics or psychoactives equate >with sticking it to the Man?>> > >When you have suburban kids with money to burn spending thirty dollars
on
quoted 1 line bogus ecstasy pills, it bolsters the coffers of the underclass (drug>bogus ecstasy pills, it bolsters the coffers of the underclass (drug
dealers,
quoted 1 line riff-raff, street hustlers) and provides funding for the Revolution.>riff-raff, street hustlers) and provides funding for the Revolution.
hope this doesn't come off as reactionary, cuz i'm just as down with a economic revolution around here as the next guy, but i think this belief is a ridiculous attempt to justify a hedonistic lifestyle via some political fantasy. i mean, come on, first of all, how many poor people are getting addicted to various drugs, staying poor because they have to feed their habit or (and maybe this is worse) are using them as a substitute for productive thought or activity? i would have to say the sheer number of the underclass that get sacrificed in this supposed "subversion" of the rich is reason enough to throw out this philosophy. but secondly, by selling these kids drugs, you're only reinforcing their paralytic lifestyle... they're using their free time to turn their free will over to some chemicals, they're being purely hedonistic. if you enable this, you're reinforcing the same type of philosophy of inertia that keeps these kids from attempting to do anything about changing anything about their cushy lives, much less changing anything about the society that keepst he lives cushy. and thirdly, is it morally acceptable to subjugate others (in this case to recreational drugs) in an attempt to bolster yourself? isn't that why we have an economic problem with such a large gap between the rich and the poor in the first place? it's one thing to do drugs, it's another thing entirely to say that your drug use is a revolutionary political statement. how can you stand up for what you believe in if you can't stand up? ,rj../ ___,"www.gl.umbc.edu/~nworth1 ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
1999-04-13 02:17MoonlightBest summary of this point of view i've seen is the Ninjatune online market description of
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Best summary of this point of view i've seen is the Ninjatune online market description of thier rolling papers (ignore the ninjaspeak). An excerpt: "Dope-smoking -like music - is a tool, that can be used at times to aid the Path of the True Ninja - however, tools can be abused and misused...." http://www.ninjatune.net/ninja/wearz/skinz.html At 05:32 PM 4/12/99 -0400, you wrote:
quoted 3 lines reinforcing>reinforcing >their paralytic lifestyle... they're using their free time to turn their >free will over to some chemicals, they're being purely hedonistic.
quoted 2 lines it's one thing to do drugs, it's another thing entirely to say that>it's one thing to do drugs, it's another thing entirely to say that >your drug use is a revolutionary political statement.
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