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quoted 2 lines if you had to pick one song or two or three to play to them and

> > if you had to pick one song or two or three to play to them and > > say , this best sums up what i listen to, what would it be?

quoted 1 line I would get out my most demented house and hard techno tracks and some

>I would get out my most demented house and hard techno tracks and some

truly

quoted 2 lines spastic jungle shit and scare them away. That or some awful video-gamey

>spastic jungle shit and scare them away. That or some awful video-gamey >electro funk, which they could pass off as a novelty and then leave me

alone. you know, i'm so fucking sick of the negativity and elitism of some people around here -- the same stupid, macho, "harder-than-thou" bullshit that ruined so much punk and hardcore. you sound like a fucking frat boy. what, you think the poor deluded masses need to go through some kind of aural hazing at your hands? no wonder v/vm's tired-ass shock tactics still inspire so much awe around here. phil

On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Philip Sherburne wrote:

quoted 6 lines you know, i'm so fucking sick of the negativity and elitism of some people

> you know, i'm so fucking sick of the negativity and elitism of some people > around here -- the same stupid, macho, "harder-than-thou" bullshit that > ruined so much punk and hardcore. you sound like a fucking frat boy. what, > you think the poor deluded masses need to go through some kind of aural > hazing at your hands? no wonder v/vm's tired-ass shock tactics still > inspire so much awe around here.

i agree with you on the being annoyed by the "macho-harder than thou" view. but it almost seems that in your post you are not only taking a slam at those who have such an attitude, but at those who might enjoy the music you lump together with that attitude.. i happen to like vvm. i happen to love noise. and while a part of me REALLY enjoys getting a reaction from people by playing really harsh music (thats the gutter punk in me), the other half really enjoys finding music that might appeal to a specific person or group of people (thats the peace punk in me). really though, its not just the "harder than thou" attitude that gets tired around here.. but the "holier than thou" one as well. and im not saying you are that way (as i do not know you) -- but just voicing my opinions on some of the attitudes i see here quite often. chris.

On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, zimbo wrote:

quoted 8 lines On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Philip Sherburne wrote:

> On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Philip Sherburne wrote: > > > you know, i'm so fucking sick of the negativity and elitism of some people > > around here -- the same stupid, macho, "harder-than-thou" bullshit that > > ruined so much punk and hardcore. you sound like a fucking frat boy. > > really though, its not just the "harder than thou" attitude that gets > tired around here.. but the "holier than thou" one as well.

Oh, shut the hell up, geeks. You BOTH suck. Hell, EVERYONE on this list can suck my dick. Greg "crankier-than-thou" Clow PS (for the humour-challenged)... :-)