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quoted 1 line i also really dug the Freeform (one of the only Freeform tracks i

> i also really dug the Freeform (one of the only Freeform tracks i

like) heheh, you mustn't have heard much freeform then, eh? =) supporting single unifying opinion movement, cgib == _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

At 02:28 PM 3/11/99 -0800, §të¶ÌñTîmÉ" Lester wrote:

quoted 8 lines heheh, you mustn't have heard much freeform then, eh? =)

>>heheh, you mustn't have heard much freeform then, eh? =) > >actually i have Glob, Elastic Speakers, Pattern Tub, Skampler, MASK 1 and >Alt. Freq. 2&3, >so i've heard quite a few of them. i like "Fyonk" and "Refane" the best >out of everything i've >heard that he's done. just not into his stuff much. Pattern Tub is pretty >nice though.

you really need to get a hold of the EP on skam (or a dub of it). 'Siamese Telebox' is sooo sweeeet. My favorite freeform track, fav Skam track (well up there with the Hellinterface/Abrhams thing), maybe even one of my fav IDM tracks ever. <Why wasn't it on the skampler?!?!!!> And for the record, I don't see why so many people are playa hatin' on Freeform anyway, while his stuff (aside from 'siamese telebox') isn't particularly outstanding, it's on par with (or better than) most of the stuff that's hip with the IDM crowd nowadays anyway. I'd much rather listen to 'glob' than say.. Marco Passarani. At least Simon's trying to do something a bit different, not just a rehash of the SOIDMS (Same ol idm shit) just my 2sense,, mlt.

At 11:27 PM 3/11/99 -0500, you wrote:

quoted 22 lines At 02:28 PM 3/11/99 -0800, §të¶ÌñTîmÉ" Lester wrote:

>At 02:28 PM 3/11/99 -0800, §të¶ÌñTîmÉ" Lester wrote: > >>>heheh, you mustn't have heard much freeform then, eh? =) >> >>actually i have Glob, Elastic Speakers, Pattern Tub, Skampler, MASK 1 and >>Alt. Freq. 2&3, >>so i've heard quite a few of them. i like "Fyonk" and "Refane" the best >>out of everything i've >>heard that he's done. just not into his stuff much. Pattern Tub is pretty >>nice though. > >you really need to get a hold of the EP on skam (or a dub of it). 'Siamese >Telebox' is sooo sweeeet. My favorite freeform track, fav Skam track (well >up there with the Hellinterface/Abrhams thing), maybe even one of my fav >IDM tracks ever. <Why wasn't it on the skampler?!?!!!> And for the record, >I don't see why so many people are playa hatin' on Freeform anyway, while >his stuff (aside from 'siamese telebox') isn't particularly outstanding, >it's on par with (or better than) most of the stuff that's hip with the IDM >crowd nowadays anyway. I'd much rather listen to 'glob' than say.. Marco >Passarani. At least Simon's trying to do something a bit different, not >just a rehash of the SOIDMS (Same ol idm shit) >

I urge everyone, Freeform fans and haters alike, to check out his new Freeform cd on the Sprawl label called "Me Shape." This new one is a compilation of sorts culling twelve tracks recorded between 95 and 97 for live Freeform performances. The every track on this album is a nice mix of complex rhythms (ala Elastic Speakers, Prowl, Palavalamp and Glob) and sublime sample-laiden melodies (ala Heterarchy and Pattern Tub). So fans of the new and old Freeform style should enjoy this one. Highly recommended! -->-Lance--- mclance@nacs.net lance@inaudible.com p.o. box 450715 westlake, ohio 44145 united states

On Thu, 11 Mar 1999 23:27:16 -0500 mlt <multsanta@sprynet.com> writes:

quoted 1 line you really need to get a hold of the EP on skam (or a dub of it).

>you really need to get a hold of the EP on skam (or a dub of it).

'Siamese

quoted 1 line Telebox' is sooo sweeeet. My favorite freeform track, fav Skam track

>Telebox' is sooo sweeeet. My favorite freeform track, fav Skam track

(well

quoted 2 lines up there with the Hellinterface/Abrhams thing), maybe even one of my fav

>up there with the Hellinterface/Abrhams thing), maybe even one of my fav >IDM tracks ever. <Why wasn't it on the skampler?!?!!!>

in my reply to CG, i had mentioned that i would be really interested in getting the Free EP. for one because it was a Skam, and for another because the insert was a picture of Sailor Mercury! Mercury-Bubbles...Blast!!!!!// ???Ы ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

quoted 7 lines while his stuff (aside from 'siamese telebox') isn't

> while his stuff (aside from 'siamese telebox') isn't > particularly outstanding, it's on par with (or better than) > most of the stuff that's hip with the IDM > crowd nowadays anyway. I'd much rather listen to 'glob' > than say.. Marco Passarani. At least Simon's trying to do > something a bit different, not just a rehash of the > SOIDMS (Same ol idm shit)

that's the thing.. that's why it's being slagged, because it's not rehashing the same ol shite. it's not abstract noise collage shit, it doesn't fit in with the techno lovers; perhaps slagged the same reason the new style of squarepusher is being slagged. leaving comfortable boundaries. yes even abstract noise collage is comfortable boundaries to many. maybe one day freeform will be sought after once people start copying his unique style.. heheh. == _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

i am positively perplexed by the omission of heterarchy. eric

oh and you also have to be looking for a sort of groovy, grimey, humorous feeling quite the opposite from cool, chilled, analog washes with chords that you would expect his stuff is just odd i guess == _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

c g wrote:

quoted 7 lines that's the thing.. that's why it's being slagged, because it's not

> that's the thing.. that's why it's being slagged, because it's not > rehashing the same ol shite. it's not abstract noise collage shit, it > doesn't fit in with the techno lovers; perhaps slagged the same reason > the new style of squarepusher is being slagged. leaving comfortable > boundaries. yes even abstract noise collage is comfortable boundaries > to many. maybe one day freeform will be sought after once people start > copying his unique style.. heheh.

So, if I dislike freeform, it's all about politics and musical conservatism? I don't think so. I just don't enjoy what he does that much. Nor do I enjoy SP's new direction, but once again, it's a matter of taste, not politics and "comfort zones." I'm sure you must be one of the most revolutionary music listeners out there, but don't be making blanket statements about ulterior motives at people who don't have any. I appreciate that which complements my imagination, and freeform doesn't. Simple as that. Tom

quoted 3 lines of Simon Pyke's Freeform project, but I've also begrudgingly agreed with

>> of Simon Pyke's Freeform project, but I've also begrudgingly agreed with >> those who criticized the often obvious Autechre influence." (Greg Clow) > which freeform-release sounds like Autechre? i think i've never heard it.

altho i've noticed greg is one of few people i usually agree with, i'm going to have to say that here he is wrong. none of the freeform albums sound like autechre. freeform is in his own world with music.. thank god and buddha statues that someone is. you'll find 156x more musicians making more autechre-drenched music in structure and sound use but without the funk and creativity. but maybe it sounds sort of nice. simon probably picked up some things from autechre, but he has another style. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org