quoted 5 lines From: szalemandre <octorock@doubtful.com>
>From: szalemandre <octorock@doubtful.com>
>Subject: Re: (idm) Autechre "clones"
>
>i generally feel that if you're not doing something new with music, if
>you're not speaking with your own voice, or not at the very least
taking
quoted 1 line an existing 'sound' and pushing it, don't speak at all.
>an existing 'sound' and pushing it, don't speak at all.
No, this is why IMO IDM suffers as a genre. If the expectation is to
continually experiment each time, you end up with what we've got at the
moment - lots of 'experimental' stuff but nothing actually musical,
nothing with a relevance or interest in whats gone before. Leaving aside
the 'intelligent' tag, I.D.M. also has 'dance' and 'music' as part of
its make-up but in order to purely experiment, these tags tend to get
played around with (atonal noises and skipping fucked-up beats). This is
no bad thing (no music should be written purely to fit a genre) but get
rid of them totally and you end up with a different kind of music (ie.
ambient, or kind of installation music - Staalplaat (sp?), Mille
Plateaux etc).
Why, say, techno is so strong is exactly because there is a familiarity
in the scene - someone produces a track that blows up, someone else will
take this and push it in a different area etc. Yeah it can be slow at
times and get caught in ruts of unoriginality (Mills clones) but it
pulls through because someone somewhere has a love of the sound and
manages to tweak it slightly to create something fresh.
I find my interest in IDM (as in what is discussed on this list) waning
daily because if anything is possible and the onus is on pure
experimentation, theres no cohesiveness, thers no scene. But when music
(IDM or whatever) works within boundries yet manages to overcome them in
some way thats when it gets interesting. Doing interesting stuff in a
genre (techno, hip-hop, whatever) is much more exciting to me than
experimenting for experimentations sake.
Its like knowing your perceived limits and getting round them in some
way - like kids using four channel trackers to create stunning music.
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