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quoted 20 lines Got my first Forced Exposure Order Through Today...

> Got my first Forced Exposure Order Through Today... > Great CDs, only took 1.5 weeks, and cheap... > > except UK customs slapped an extra 7.68UKP (£12.48) on top. > So my total came to $60.. .approximately 36UKP > thats 12UKP or $20 a CD... which is better than 15UKP or $24 i > would have paid in a shop such as Rough Trade. > > So who else has been stung by this? I had heard they didnt normally Tax > anything 3 CDs or under. The Postman asked me if i had ordered it over > the Internet, they are cracking down heavily on it apparently. Does > anyone know how it is calculated?? We should swap statistics :-) Maybe > ill just order 2 next time... But I already have 6 items in my FE > basket! > > Oh.. and will it effect my MDOS ordering (Austria)? Or is it only > non-Euro? > > Steve >

On Tue, 23 Feb 1999, Steve Taylor wrote:

quoted 3 lines Got my first Forced Exposure Order Through Today...

> > Got my first Forced Exposure Order Through Today... > > Great CDs, only took 1.5 weeks, and cheap... > > except UK customs slapped an extra 7.68UKP (?12.48) on top.

First, a question... I thought UKP and that little symbol next to the 12 (sorry, it's not on my keyboard) referred to the same thing. But you've got two different values listed there. What's the story? Just curious. Anyhoo... I often have the same problem with stuff coming into Canada from the US. So I suggest that you do what I do for future orders you place with out-of-country businesses: request them to mark the package as promotional material and declare it to have no value, or at least a low value like a dollar a disc. Some places won't do this, but most smaller businesses (like s://kimo and probably FE) will. Greg

i think the pound sign was sposed to be a dollar sign.... jus a little test.... £ $ £ $ (pound dollar pound dollar) Greg Clow wrote:

quoted 20 lines On Tue, 23 Feb 1999, Steve Taylor wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Feb 1999, Steve Taylor wrote: > > > > Got my first Forced Exposure Order Through Today... > > > Great CDs, only took 1.5 weeks, and cheap... > > > except UK customs slapped an extra 7.68UKP (£12.48) on top. > > First, a question... I thought UKP and that little symbol next to the 12 > (sorry, it's not on my keyboard) referred to the same thing. But you've > got two different values listed there. What's the story? Just curious. > > Anyhoo... I often have the same problem with stuff coming into Canada from > the US. So I suggest that you do what I do for future orders you place with > out-of-country businesses: request them to mark the package as promotional > material and declare it to have no value, or at least a low value like a > dollar a disc. > > Some places won't do this, but most smaller businesses (like s://kimo and > probably FE) will. > > Greg

OK this is how C&E (Customs and Excise) work out their charges (more or less anyway) They take the order total value (including the shipping costs) add the relevant duty (3% for CD's I think) and then add VAT 17.5% If the order is marked "Gift" and is less that 36UKP in value then it is exempt from these charges If it is not a gift but is less that 18UKP in value it is also exempt. So I guess you could somehow claim it was a gift and you may get away with it and get a refund! I have recently heard that they have amended these rules so that no internet order is exempt from charges - how they tell whether something was ordered over the internet I don't know Tim Steve Taylor wrote:

quoted 21 lines Got my first Forced Exposure Order Through Today...

> > > Got my first Forced Exposure Order Through Today... > > Great CDs, only took 1.5 weeks, and cheap... > > > > except UK customs slapped an extra 7.68UKP (#12.48) on top. > > So my total came to $60.. .approximately 36UKP > > thats 12UKP or $20 a CD... which is better than 15UKP or $24 i > > would have paid in a shop such as Rough Trade. > > > > So who else has been stung by this? I had heard they didnt normally Tax > > anything 3 CDs or under. The Postman asked me if i had ordered it over > > the Internet, they are cracking down heavily on it apparently. Does > > anyone know how it is calculated?? We should swap statistics :-) Maybe > > ill just order 2 next time... But I already have 6 items in my FE > > basket! > > > > Oh.. and will it effect my MDOS ordering (Austria)? Or is it only > > non-Euro? > > > > Steve > >

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quoted 20 lines OK this is how C&E (Customs and Excise) work out their charges

> OK this is how C&E (Customs and Excise) work out their charges > (more or less anyway) > > They take the order total value (including the shipping costs) > add the relevant duty (3% for CD's I think) and then > add VAT 17.5% > > If the order is marked "Gift" and is less that 36UKP in value then it is > exempt from these charges > If it is not a gift but is less that 18UKP in value it is also exempt. > > So I guess you could somehow claim it was a gift and you may get away > with it and get a refund! > > I have recently heard that they have amended these rules so that no > internet order is exempt from charges - how they tell whether something > was ordered over the internet I don't know > > >

It could be the fact that the CD's were all shrinkwrapped, and the Box had a Forced Exposure Stamp on. And I guess they are used to seeing packages from CDNOW etc. But then FE marked the value as $15 which is about 10 UKP, so charges shouldnt apply, i could contest this, but i doubt its worth it (plus there is only a customs Postal address, no phone or email). Actually there wasnt even an invoice with the CD's, that was sent seperately. Steve

tricky one that... when we at smallfish send stuff out, occasionally people do get taxed (tho' it seems pretty random)... we are in a double bind here...if we mark it as having no value (promotional etc) then if it gets damaged, we get no money back off the postie, but if you put the true value (ie what someone has paid) then people might get taxed at the other end... as the person who received it which would you go for? no, thinking about that it is pretty obvious...less money is probably better... it's amazing...US customs tax CDs at (i can't quite remember) 2.4cents per square meter!!! Now is that playable area, total area, box area??? nick _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com