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1999-02-22 15:08Marc 3 PoirierAphex Twin's "Window Licker" video came out today, right? Has anyone bought it? Does anyon
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Aphex Twin's "Window Licker" video came out today, right? Has anyone bought it? Does anyone know if it has been or will be released on video in the U.S.? Thanks, Marc Poirier
1999-02-22 15:23Greg ClowOn Mon, 22 Feb 1999, Marc 3 Poirier wrote: > Aphex Twin's "Window Licker" video came out t
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quoted 3 lines Aphex Twin's "Window Licker" video came out today, right? Has anyone> Aphex Twin's "Window Licker" video came out today, right? Has anyone > bought it? Does anyone know if it has been or will be released on video in > the U.S.?
The commercial video release of Window Licker isn't coming out in the UK until April 5th. But last I'd heard, Sire was supposed to be releaseing it in the US tomorrow. Greg
1999-02-22 17:45DzrtMusic@aol.comIn a message dated 2/22/99 8:08:33 AM Mountain Standard Time, mpoirier@virtu.sar.usf.edu w
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In a message dated 2/22/99 8:08:33 AM Mountain Standard Time, mpoirier@virtu.sar.usf.edu writes:
quoted 3 lines Aphex Twin's "Window Licker" video came out today, right? Has anyone> Aphex Twin's "Window Licker" video came out today, right? Has anyone > bought it? Does anyone know if it has been or will be released on video in > the U.S.?
Is anyone taking this release seriously? I saw the real video of the Window Licker video,.. I sincerely hope that video was only a front to fool people into thinking the whole ep is going to be shit. Seems more like Aphex milking his fans for all their worth (economically fucking them up the ass) before he goes on his vacation from the music biz. Richard James's music has had a deep impact on many of us,.. sure he thinks he's being funny giving everyone the "I don't give a fuck about what you think" routine. Seems like simple immaturity and inconsideration to me.. There are many of you who will chear him on as he makes funny things happen with the umbrella. I reserve a special moment of disapointment just for those people. -allen
1999-02-22 19:17adroxy@telusplanet.net> Is anyone taking this release seriously? I saw the real video of the Window > Licker vid
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quoted 12 lines Is anyone taking this release seriously? I saw the real video of the Window> Is anyone taking this release seriously? I saw the real video of the Window > Licker video,.. I sincerely hope that video was only a front to fool people > into thinking the whole ep is going to be shit. Seems more like Aphex milking > his fans for all their worth (economically fucking them up the ass) before he > goes on his vacation from the music biz. Richard James's music has had a deep > impact on many of us,.. sure he thinks he's being funny giving everyone the "I > don't give a fuck about what you think" routine. Seems like simple immaturity > and inconsideration to me.. > > There are many of you who will chear him on as he makes funny things happen > with the umbrella. I reserve a special moment of disapointment just for those > people.
although i havent seen or heard the singel yet, i figure everything since i care because you do and donkey rhubarb have been a joshing bit of humour, still a good bit of substance to the music, its not all that seriuos taking a stab at itself, and thats exactly why i like it just as much as everything before_ will
1999-02-22 17:56Steve Taylor> > Aphex Twin's "Window Licker" video came out today, right? Has anyone > > bought it? Do
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quoted 2 lines Aphex Twin's "Window Licker" video came out today, right? Has anyone> > Aphex Twin's "Window Licker" video came out today, right? Has anyone > > bought it? Does anyone know if it has been or will be released on
video in
quoted 3 lines the U.S.?> > the U.S.? > > Is anyone taking this release seriously? I saw the real video of the
Window
quoted 1 line Licker video,.. I sincerely hope that video was only a front to fool> Licker video,.. I sincerely hope that video was only a front to fool
people
quoted 1 line into thinking the whole ep is going to be shit. Seems more like Aphex> into thinking the whole ep is going to be shit. Seems more like Aphex
milking
quoted 1 line his fans for all their worth (economically fucking them up the ass) before> his fans for all their worth (economically fucking them up the ass) before
he
quoted 1 line goes on his vacation from the music biz. Richard James's music has had a> goes on his vacation from the music biz. Richard James's music has had a
deep
quoted 1 line impact on many of us,.. sure he thinks he's being funny giving everyone> impact on many of us,.. sure he thinks he's being funny giving everyone
the "I
quoted 1 line don't give a fuck about what you think" routine. Seems like simple> don't give a fuck about what you think" routine. Seems like simple
immaturity
quoted 3 lines and inconsideration to me..> and inconsideration to me.. > > There are many of you who will chear him on as he makes funny things
happen
quoted 1 line with the umbrella. I reserve a special moment of disapointment just for> with the umbrella. I reserve a special moment of disapointment just for
those
quoted 1 line people.> people.
Are you a tense person? Remember: 'it's just music' 'its entertainment' 'Richard D. James is not omnipotent' Let us know when you get your first Stomach Ulcer. Steve
1999-02-22 17:57DzrtMusic@aol.comWhat? I am one of the most chilled persons I know. Just because I take music a little more
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What? I am one of the most chilled persons I know. Just because I take music a little more to heart than you do doesn't mean you have to go accusing me of being ulcer-prone. sheesh! -allen
quoted 14 lines Are you a tense person?> > Are you a tense person? > > Remember: > > 'it's just music' > > 'its entertainment' > > 'Richard D. James is not omnipotent' > > Let us know when you get your first Stomach Ulcer. > > Steve
1999-02-22 18:08Will Samuels--DzrtMusic@aol.com wrote: > > Is anyone taking this release seriously? I saw the > real v
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quoted 2 lines Is anyone taking this release seriously? I saw the > real video of> > Is anyone taking this release seriously? I saw the > real video of
the Window Licker video,.. I sincerely > hope that video was only a front to fool people into > thinking the whole ep is going to be shit. Seems > more like Aphex milking his fans for all their worth > (economically fucking them up the ass) before he
quoted 1 line goes on his vacation from the music biz. Richard > James's music> goes on his vacation from the music biz. Richard > James's music
has had a deep impact on many of us,.. > sure he thinks he's being funny giving everyone the > "I don't give a fuck about what you think" routine. > Seems like simple immaturity and inconsideration to > me.. I agree. The quality of his music has gone down big time. All his older stuff is great and most of it still sounds fresh. The HAB eps were ok, not nearly as good as i would have hoped...but interesting. the Milkman song is pretty weak. That whole Come to Daddy ep was pretty weak. I mean sure it amusing that he did something like that. But it gets old quick. I prefer the video over the actual song. The only track that I really like is IZ-US a 2 minute track on that CD. That's the only reason I might ever pull that cd out. Rephlex as a label just puts out silly crap for the most part.
quoted 1 line There are many of you who will cheer him on as he > makes funny> There are many of you who will cheer him on as he > makes funny
things happen with the umbrella. I > reserve a special moment of disapointment just for > those people. I certainly don't get excited when I hear about new releases by him anymore. He went from being one of my favorite artists to someone I am only sort of interested in...just to see if he will snap out of his streak of silly shit and hopefully start doing meaningful music again. There are too many really awesome electronic artists out there now to really even care about Aphex Twin (if he continues to do just ok quality stuff). From a guy that was all talk in the beginning of his career, about how he could put out a 100 lps a year. You would think he could put out at least one good album a year and all the silly shit he wants to do also. If he is retiring (which I don't think he is). It's probably for the best. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
1999-02-23 01:03solenoidOn Mon, 22 Feb 1999, Will Samuels wrote: > > I certainly don't get excited when I hear abo
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quoted 8 lines I certainly don't get excited when I hear about new releases by him> > I certainly don't get excited when I hear about new releases by him > anymore. He went from being one of my favorite artists to someone I am > only sort of interested in...just to see if he will snap out of his > streak of silly shit and hopefully start doing meaningful music again. > > There are too many really awesome electronic artists out there now to > really even care about Aphex Twin
I agree with the above opinions as well. Last thing he did that moved me much was "On". Solenoid
1999-02-23 13:29laermOn Mon, 22 Feb 1999, Will Samuels wrote: > That whole Come to Daddy ep was pretty weak. I
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On Mon, 22 Feb 1999, Will Samuels wrote:
quoted 5 lines That whole Come to Daddy ep was pretty weak. I mean sure it amusing> That whole Come to Daddy ep was pretty weak. I mean sure it amusing > that he did something like that. But it gets old quick. I prefer the > video over the actual song. The only track that I really like is IZ-US > a 2 minute track on that CD. That's the only reason I might ever pull > that cd out.
i liked "flim", too, but the rest was patoot.
quoted 1 line Rephlex as a label just puts out silly crap for the most part.> Rephlex as a label just puts out silly crap for the most part.
hey, somebody agrees with me! i am getting extremely tired with all of the horribly lame-assed melodies and tired tired fungle beats. mike p was a really good artist until he got aphex-ified. :P rephlex, all i'm buying is bochum welt. * #### a disturbance in a system. #### laerm. @voicenet.com ##:# Denn die einen sind im Dunkeln/Und die andern sind im Licht Und man sieht die im Lichte/Die im Dunkeln sieht man nicht icq: 5562209
1999-02-22 18:18DzrtMusic@aol.comYes, but now it's nothing BUT aphex being humorous, before it was just him, and his work,.
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Yes, but now it's nothing BUT aphex being humorous, before it was just him, and his work,.. Donkey Rhubarb, yeah maybe.. but even that track is good compared to this shit he pumps out today. As far as I'm concerned Come to Daddy was garbage, more acurately, skillful garbage.. but nonetheless, garbage. (for the most part at least, I think iz-us is a cool track, funny little man is cool.. and bucepholus has some nice bits,.. but all in all the album was obviously not taken seriously in the least by rdj which I believe is bullshit.) One could argue that he never took any of his work seriously, my advice to those people is to stop listening to what comes out of his mouth and simply just pay attention to what his music has to say. '...I care beacuse you do' was a very powerful album. You have to consider the difference between humor that is part of an album as a whole and humor that is purely the purpose of the album. There's a really HUGE difference. -allen
quoted 7 lines although i havent seen or heard the singel yet, i figure> > although i havent seen or heard the singel yet, i figure > everything since i care because you do and donkey rhubarb have > been a joshing bit of humour, still a good bit of substance to the > music, its not all that seriuos taking a stab at itself, and thats > exactly why i like it just as much as everything before_ will >
1999-02-22 21:12clint nixon[ on Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:18:39 EST,] [ DzrtMusic@aol.com wrote.] : Yes, but now it's nothi
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[ on Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:18:39 EST,] [ DzrtMusic@aol.com wrote.] : Yes, but now it's nothing BUT aphex being humorous, before it was just him, : and his work,.. but isn't humor an artistic expression? whats wrong with his "funny" + "i don't cares" as an expression. personally i dig it, IMO. i loved the RDJ material and the CTDaddy material (but not the title track), and have grown to like ICBYDo, but almost everything pre 94 i can't seem to take an ear to. even the baby ford track is just a bit to repetitive for me. : Donkey Rhubarb, yeah maybe.. but even that track is good : compared to this shit he pumps out today. As far as I'm concerned Come to : Daddy was garbage, more acurately, skillful garbage.. but nonetheless, : garbage. (for the most part at least, I think iz-us is a cool track, funny : little man is cool.. and bucepholus has some nice bits,.. but all in all the : album was obviously not taken seriously in the least by rdj which I believe is : bullshit.) One could argue that he never took any of his work seriously, my : advice to those people is to stop listening to what comes out of his mouth and : simply just pay attention to what his music has to say. gosh now this sounds like a post i read when AE's LP5 came out. somebody turned the album into this Life and Death struggle, when its just music and you either listen and dislike or like to listen. exactly, so what about the video shite that goes along with it (and i usually get a few good head nods out of them.)? and actually i've had that window licker track since it was going around months ago as an MP3, and i thought it was pretty good back then. it definately sounded APHEX. : '...I care beacuse you do' was a very powerful album. You have to consider the : difference between humor that is part of an album as a whole and humor that is : purely the purpose of the album. There's a really HUGE difference. i have grown to Like ICBYDo, but i feel just the opposite, as im sure quite a few others do (and don't), that the newer stuff is a bit more random and extreme and dark/light and (yees) humourous. i like smiling and having images swirl through my head as i listen to a song. so what thee hell if an artist isn't all serious and careful? then listen to WSD releases. :) heh. its all in good. --- other people : > although i havent seen or heard the singel yet, i figure : > everything since i care because you do and donkey rhubarb have : > been a joshing bit of humour, still a good bit of substance to the : > music, its not all that seriuos taking a stab at itself, and thats : > exactly why i like it just as much as everything before_ will well i saw the .ram file and the feed quality was fairly crap, and thus i was a little dissapointed in what i saw. i figured if he went as far as he did he might as well have taken it to the max and made a full fledge Porn Music Vid. havn't seen to many of those before. heh. and the song sounds like something that could possibly land radio airplay, but won't. very hip-hop in an aphex sort of way.
1999-02-22 18:35DzrtMusic@aol.com> I agree. The quality of his music has gone down big time. All his > older stuff is great
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quoted 4 lines I agree. The quality of his music has gone down big time. All his> I agree. The quality of his music has gone down big time. All his > older stuff is great and most of it still sounds fresh. The HAB eps > were ok, not nearly as good as i would have hoped...but interesting. > the Milkman song is pretty weak.
I really liked HAB1, I liked it alot actually, but I admit it is not for everybody. HAB2 is just 2 songs,.. they're pretty cool tracks, but they are very different from HAB1. He only did that milkman song because somebody told him he could never do lyrics even if he wanted to.. not that said reason will ever be a good reason to do a song.
quoted 1 line Rephlex as a label just puts out silly crap for the most part.> Rephlex as a label just puts out silly crap for the most part.
Definately a reflection of richard and grant's sense of humor..
quoted 2 lines There are too many really awesome electronic artists out there now to> There are too many really awesome electronic artists out there now to > really even care about Aphex Twin (if he continues to do just ok
Very true, it's funny how at one time many people revered ol' aphex to be the top of the hill of "idm"... at the time a term which was used only on this list.
quoted 2 lines If he is retiring (which I don't think he is). It's probably for the> If he is retiring (which I don't think he is). It's probably for the > best.
Probably. Lots of people on this list are very worried about who's on top of the knowedge pile and who's the most jaded. It's a common unspoken rule between idm'ers that whoever is the most jaded obviously must have the most experience and therefore must be the most cool. Hence many people avoid talking about aphex because of that fierce "been there, done that" attitude. -allen
1999-02-22 18:53Will Samuels--DzrtMusic@aol.com wrote: >> If he is retiring (which I don't think he is). >> It's proba
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quoted 1 line If he is retiring (which I don't think he is). >> It's probably>> If he is retiring (which I don't think he is). >> It's probably
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quoted 4 lines Probably.> > Probably. > > Lots of people on this list are very worried about > who's on top
of the knowedge pile and who's the most > jaded. It's a common unspoken rule between idm'ers > that whoever is the most jaded obviously must have > the most experience and therefore must be the most > cool. I read enough interviews on him from 91-94. I just don't care to learn anymore about him. It's kind of sad if people STILL try and learn all there is to know about him. Who the fuck cares anymore?
quoted 1 line Hence many people avoid talking about aphex because >of that fierce>Hence many people avoid talking about aphex because >of that fierce
"been there, done that" attitude. I normally would not respond to a Aphex thread because for the most part I really am not that interested in talking about him. I just happened to in this case because I am slightly interested in checking out the Windowlicker video because i like what Chris Cunningham did for Come to Daddy and Autechre's video. But I totally agreed with what you were saying so i did post. I rather talk about people like Optical than Aphex Twin. At least he is still pushing boundaries versus silliness _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
1999-02-22 18:59Rodney PerkinsWhatever, man. I got into Aphex Twin from the "Richard D. James" album and as I scoured th
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Whatever, man. I got into Aphex Twin from the "Richard D. James" album and as I scoured through the back catalog in search of similar sounds, I was sorely disappointed. Analogue Bubblebath? S.A.W.? Cool but I could care less if I ever heard 'em again. Who will be the next smarty techno godfather to be torn down by the IDM mafia? Paradinas, Jeffs, or Jenkinson? The gunsights are all on you so you better make records that sound exactly the same as your first demos or you are done for. There is a :-) buried somewhere in this message.
quoted 16 lines Is anyone taking this release seriously? I saw the real video of the Window> > Is anyone taking this release seriously? I saw the real video of the Window > Licker video,.. I sincerely hope that video was only a front to fool people > into thinking the whole ep is going to be shit. Seems more like Aphex milking > his fans for all their worth (economically fucking them up the ass) before he > goes on his vacation from the music biz. Richard James's music has had a deep > impact on many of us,.. sure he thinks he's being funny giving everyone the "I > don't give a fuck about what you think" routine. Seems like simple immaturity > and inconsideration to me.. > > There are many of you who will chear him on as he makes funny things happen > with the umbrella. I reserve a special moment of disapointment just for those > people. > > -allen >
1999-02-22 20:39aliI agree that aphex's music is less serious than it used to be, but this is not necessarily
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I agree that aphex's music is less serious than it used to be, but this is not necessarily a bad thing. Obviously RDJ has learned to take himself less seriously over the years. Or maybe, like you said, he never did take himself seriously but did not make this plain in his music until now. Obviously RDJ is making a statement. He is saying that music is just something to give you pleasure, and that it doesn't have to make sense or be meaningful to do that. Everyone bitching about RDJ should loosen up, then give a listen to Ween's "God Ween Satan - the Oneness". It's funny as hell and gives off the exact same vibes that I see RDJ giving off nowadays. It has that exact same philosophy. About the music quality going down... I liked RDJ album, Come to Daddy had some gems on there... though the first song sucks, and I don't know about the Window Licker EP, though I dig the song itself. So I agree that the quality has gone down somewhat, compared to older stuff... But if the music quality has gone down, it is _not_ because of the humor. A song can be meaningless/silly and still quite good. -ali ---DzrtMusic@aol.com wrote:
quoted 2 lines Yes, but now it's nothing BUT aphex being humorous, before it was> > Yes, but now it's nothing BUT aphex being humorous, before it was
just him,
quoted 1 line and his work,.. Donkey Rhubarb, yeah maybe.. but even that track is> and his work,.. Donkey Rhubarb, yeah maybe.. but even that track is
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quoted 1 line compared to this shit he pumps out today. As far as I'm concerned> compared to this shit he pumps out today. As far as I'm concerned
Come to
quoted 2 lines Daddy was garbage, more acurately, skillful garbage.. but nonetheless,> Daddy was garbage, more acurately, skillful garbage.. but nonetheless, > garbage. (for the most part at least, I think iz-us is a cool track,
funny
quoted 1 line little man is cool.. and bucepholus has some nice bits,.. but all in> little man is cool.. and bucepholus has some nice bits,.. but all in
all the
quoted 1 line album was obviously not taken seriously in the least by rdj which I> album was obviously not taken seriously in the least by rdj which I
believe is
quoted 1 line bullshit.) One could argue that he never took any of his work> bullshit.) One could argue that he never took any of his work
seriously, my
quoted 1 line advice to those people is to stop listening to what comes out of his> advice to those people is to stop listening to what comes out of his
mouth and
quoted 3 lines simply just pay attention to what his music has to say.> simply just pay attention to what his music has to say. > > '...I care beacuse you do' was a very powerful album. You have to
consider the
quoted 1 line difference between humor that is part of an album as a whole and> difference between humor that is part of an album as a whole and
humor that is
quoted 9 lines purely the purpose of the album. There's a really HUGE difference.> purely the purpose of the album. There's a really HUGE difference. > > -allen > > > > > although i havent seen or heard the singel yet, i figure > > everything since i care because you do and donkey rhubarb have > > been a joshing bit of humour, still a good bit of substance to the > > music, its not all that seriuos taking a stab at itself, and
thats
quoted 3 lines exactly why i like it just as much as everything before_ will> > exactly why i like it just as much as everything before_ will > > >
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1999-02-22 22:13adroxy@telusplanet.net> Everyone bitching about RDJ should loosen up, then give a listen to > Ween's "God Ween S
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quoted 4 lines Everyone bitching about RDJ should loosen up, then give a listen to> Everyone bitching about RDJ should loosen up, then give a listen to > Ween's "God Ween Satan - the Oneness". It's funny as hell and gives > off the exact same vibes that I see RDJ giving off nowadays. It has > that exact same philosophy.
and pure guava, the pod, pure guava has some of the craziest electronic/ really noisy bits "all he wanted to do was look at the pumpkins" my friend used to think ween were down syndrome fellows making music, which makes me say daniel johnson when he was in the asylum and he did those ranting acoustic guitar songs, king missile jad fair ween are admittedly the best at it, they can get away with more than rdj ever could_ will
1999-02-23 07:33Will Samuels--clint nixon <control@mcsi.net> wrote: > > [ on Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:18:39 EST,] > [ DzrtM
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quoted 5 lines [ on Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:18:39 EST,]> > [ on Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:18:39 EST,] > [ DzrtMusic@aol.com wrote.] > > : Yes, but now it's nothing BUT aphex being humorous, before it was
just him,
quoted 3 lines : and his work,..> : and his work,.. > > but isn't humor an artistic expression?
I suppose it could be...
quoted 1 line whats wrong with his "funny" + "i don't cares" as an > express> whats wrong with his "funny" + "i don't cares" as an > expression.
personally i dig it, IMO. Well I would say for me it's longeveity. I prefer to buy stuff that i know i will like for a long time. Alot of "funny + I don't care" music is funny for a little while and but then the joke wears thin. And it also kind of depends on who it is. For instance, Dopplereffekt is kind of silly. But that is the only way i know their music to be. Aphex Twin on the other hand, has just put out some really brilliant stuff. Music that I think I will love 15 years from now. Just knowing that he can do great tracks, and just putting out blah stuff is rather disappointing. I highly doubt I would want to listen to alot of his most recent efforts consistently for the next 5 years. More than likely it's going to collect dust.
quoted 1 line i loved the RDJ material and the CTDaddy material > (but not the> i loved the RDJ material and the CTDaddy material > (but not the
title track), and have grown to like > ICBYDo, but almost everything pre 94 i can't seem to
quoted 1 line take an ear to. even the baby ford track is just a > bit to> take an ear to. even the baby ford track is just a > bit to
repetitive for me. Well I started listening to him in '91 and I love all the older stuff and have substantial lesser views of his more recent stuff. {Note: i cut a bunch of stuff that didn't seem relevant to my post..sorry if this confuses anyone}
quoted 1 line gosh now this sounds like a post i read when AE's > LP5 came out.> gosh now this sounds like a post i read when AE's > LP5 came out.
somebody turned the album into this > Life and Death struggle, when its just music and you > either listen and dislike or like to listen. I am always pleased with Autechre. For someone to make a "struggle" as you put it is ridiculous. I wouldn't even call my feelings even close to a struggle, I just place alot less emphasis on Aphex than i did in the past. He is no longer someone I anticipate exceptional music from. Plus as I mentioned in an earlier posts there are more than enough quality electronic artists out there.
quoted 1 line exactly, so what about the video shite that goes > along with it> exactly, so what about the video shite that goes > along with it
(and i usually get a few good head > nods out of them.)? and actually i've had that > window licker track since it was going around months > ago as an MP3, and i thought it was pretty good back > then. it definately sounded APHEX. I'm more interested in seeing the video, then hearing the music. I haven't heard Window Licker yet, I'll just wait to see the video
quoted 4 lines i have grown to Like ICBYDo, but i feel just the> i have grown to Like ICBYDo, but i feel just the > opposite, as im sure quite a few others do (and > don't), that the newer stuff is a bit more random > and extreme and dark/light and (yees) humourous.
For me there was no growing to like it. I immediately like it. I think he has alway had some pretty varied releases.
quoted 2 lines i like smiling and having images swirl through my> i like smiling and having images swirl through my > head as i listen to a song. so what thee hell if an artist isn't
all serious and careful? then listen to
quoted 1 line WSD releases. :)> WSD releases. :)
i like music that takes you places mentally. music that takes you on some kind of journey. What images are you talking about? The Videos? I think you have a sense of humor and still make really good music. He has the sense of humor (or maybe part of it is from Chris Cunningham), but i disagree that the music is really good. It doesn't have a long shelf life in my book. Cheers
quoted 5 lines heh. its all in good.> heh. its all in good. > > --- other people > > : > although i havent seen or heard the singel yet, i
figure
quoted 2 lines : > everything since i care because you do and donkey rhubarb have> : > everything since i care because you do and donkey rhubarb have > : > been a joshing bit of humour, still a good bit of substance to
the
quoted 1 line : > music, its not all that seriuos taking a stab at itself, and> : > music, its not all that seriuos taking a stab at itself, and
thats
quoted 3 lines : > exactly why i like it just as much as everything before_ will> : > exactly why i like it just as much as everything before_ will > > well i saw the .ram file and the feed quality was fairly crap, and
thus
quoted 1 line i was a little dissapointed in what i saw. i figured if he went as> i was a little dissapointed in what i saw. i figured if he went as
far
quoted 7 lines as he did he might as well have taken it to the max and made a full> as he did he might as well have taken it to the max and made a full > fledge Porn Music Vid. havn't seen to many of those before. heh. > > and the song sounds like something that could possibly land radio > airplay, but won't. very hip-hop in an aphex sort of way. > >
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1999-02-23 09:25Steve TaylorHey if youre gonna insult me, bring it on in the Intelligent Dancing arena. You Po-faced a
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Hey if youre gonna insult me, bring it on in the Intelligent Dancing arena. You Po-faced anally retentive gimps. Piece.
quoted 46 lines -----Original Message-----> -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Taylor > Sent: Monday, February 22, 1999 5:57 PM > To: 'idm@hyperreal.org' > Subject: Re: (idm) Aphex Twin- "Window Licker" > > > > Aphex Twin's "Window Licker" video came out today, right? Has anyone > > > bought it? Does anyone know if it has been or will be released on > video in > > > the U.S.? > > > > Is anyone taking this release seriously? I saw the real video of the > Window > > Licker video,.. I sincerely hope that video was only a front to fool > people > > into thinking the whole ep is going to be shit. Seems more like Aphex > milking > > his fans for all their worth (economically fucking them up the ass) > before he > > goes on his vacation from the music biz. Richard James's music has had a > deep > > impact on many of us,.. sure he thinks he's being funny giving everyone > the "I > > don't give a fuck about what you think" routine. Seems like simple > immaturity > > and inconsideration to me.. > > > > There are many of you who will chear him on as he makes funny things > happen > > with the umbrella. I reserve a special moment of disapointment just for > those > > people. > > Are you a tense person? > > Remember: > > 'it's just music' > > 'its entertainment' > > 'Richard D. James is not omnipotent' > > Let us know when you get your first Stomach Ulcer. > > Steve
1999-02-23 12:00martin wood> sure he thinks he's being funny giving everyone the "I > don't give a fuck about what yo
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quoted 3 lines sure he thinks he's being funny giving everyone the "I> sure he thinks he's being funny giving everyone the "I > don't give a fuck about what you think" routine. Seems like simple immaturity > and inconsideration to me..
inconsideration for who? you? im sure he doesnt write music to please anyone else but himself.... no other justification is required.... before i knew any better, i occasionally thought....will people like this track or that track?....and then quickly realised it was a bullshit path to follow...i write music to express myself....the perceptions of others are irrelevant...if someone does like my music...then thats cool, but its an added bonus, not the purpose.
1999-02-23 19:37Will Samuels--laerm <laerm@voicenet.com> wrote: > > On Mon, 22 Feb 1999, Will Samuels wrote: > > > Tha
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--laerm <laerm@voicenet.com> wrote:
quoted 6 lines On Mon, 22 Feb 1999, Will Samuels wrote:> > On Mon, 22 Feb 1999, Will Samuels wrote: > > > That whole Come to Daddy ep was pretty weak. I mean sure it amusing > > that he did something like that. But it gets old quick. I prefer the > > video over the actual song. The only track that I really like is
IZ-US
quoted 1 line a 2 minute track on that CD. That's the only reason I might ever> > a 2 minute track on that CD. That's the only reason I might ever
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quoted 7 lines that cd out.> > that cd out. > > i liked "flim", too, but the rest was patoot. > > > Rephlex as a label just puts out silly crap for the most part. > > hey, somebody agrees with me! i am getting extremely > tired with
all of the horribly lame-assed melodies > and tired tired fungle beats. mike p was a really > good artist until he got aphex-ified. :P rephlex, > all i'm buying is bochum welt. I totally agree with you! I might of spoken up sooner but if I see Aphex or Rephlex in the Subject I usually hit delete without even reading it. I don't usually read a subject if i have read too many posts about one topic. Cheers _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
1999-02-24 05:27DzrtMusic@aol.comIn a message dated 2/23/99 4:56:37 AM Mountain Standard Time, martin.wood@advent-comm.co.u
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In a message dated 2/23/99 4:56:37 AM Mountain Standard Time, martin.wood@advent-comm.co.uk writes:
quoted 3 lines im sure he doesnt write music to please anyone else but himself....> im sure he doesnt write music to please anyone else but himself.... > > no other justification is required....
cept in this case he's not giving us any sort of serious expression of himself besides being a goof off, therefore we're getting ripped of by buying aphex's fooling around. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY! Aphex is just messing around, he's not being serious, we KNOW what he can do, that's why I expect so much more of him. The scale is different for each artist. ~Allen
1999-02-24 15:14ChairCrusherI hesitate to jump to Richard James' defense on this list. 1. Because fundamentally he ESP
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I hesitate to jump to Richard James' defense on this list. 1. Because fundamentally he ESPECIALLY doesn't care what a group of Internet mailing list dweebs with too much time on their hands think. 2. I am not and don't want to be seen as an Aphex Twin sycophant. But: There is a long tradition of music that both has intrinsic musical value and has the aspect of a piss-take: Bach's Coffee Cantata, Brahms' Academic Overture, Eric Satie, Charles Ives' two-colliding-marching-bands music, Sir Edward Elgar's Facade, etc. Aphex Twin music is occasionally brilliant, sometimes sloppy, a bit messy, and reflects a gnomish sense of humor that is either engaging or annoying. But whether or not you listen isn't really an issue to him, so if you don't like it, buy something else. He'll be judged with the rest of us, long after he's gone. And I don't think that he's "just messing around." Or rather, perhaps just messing around is something he hopes to raise to the level of an art form. Even some of the old tracks, that everyone who hates him now still likes, can be construed to be just messing around. If I can see any message to his music it would be "hey lighten up, enjoy life, take the piss out of pompous wankers, and isn't it amazing that a tosser from Cornwall can grow up to live in a bank vault in London." kent williams -- kent@avalon.net
1999-02-24 23:02DzrtMusic@aol.comIn a message dated 2/24/99 8:14:41 AM Mountain Standard Time, kent@avalon.net writes: > I
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In a message dated 2/24/99 8:14:41 AM Mountain Standard Time, kent@avalon.net writes:
quoted 29 lines I hesitate to jump to Richard James' defense on this list. 1. Because> I hesitate to jump to Richard James' defense on this list. 1. Because > fundamentally he ESPECIALLY doesn't care what a group of Internet mailing > list dweebs with too much time on their hands think. 2. I am not and don't > want to be seen as an Aphex Twin sycophant. > > But: > > There is a long tradition of music that both has intrinsic musical value > and has the aspect of a piss-take: Bach's Coffee Cantata, Brahms' > Academic Overture, Eric Satie, Charles Ives' two-colliding-marching-bands > music, Sir Edward Elgar's Facade, etc. > > Aphex Twin music is occasionally brilliant, sometimes sloppy, a bit > messy, and reflects a gnomish sense of humor that is either engaging > or annoying. But whether or not you listen isn't really an issue to him, > so if you don't like it, buy something else. He'll be judged with > the rest of us, long after he's gone. > > And I don't think that he's "just messing around." Or rather, perhaps > just messing around is something he hopes to raise to the level of an > art form. Even some of the old tracks, that everyone who hates him now > still likes, can be construed to be just messing around. > > If I can see any message to his music it would be "hey lighten up, > enjoy life, take the piss out of pompous wankers, and isn't it amazing > that a tosser from Cornwall can grow up to live in a bank vault in London." > > kent williams -- kent@avalon.net >
hmm, yes.. all I really meant was that he isn't giving as much to his music as he used to. ~allen
1999-02-24 23:14eric hill>all I really meant was that he isn't giving as much to his music as he used >to. each new
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quoted 2 lines all I really meant was that he isn't giving as much to his music as he used>all I really meant was that he isn't giving as much to his music as he used >to.
each new release is like a one-line response to everything else out there. eric