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RE: (idm) Is it live...? (was: gender)

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1999-02-16 07:49Shane Cantwell Re: (idm) Is it live...? (was: gender)
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1999-02-20 01:33Shane Cantwell Re: (idm) Is it live...? (was: gender)
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1999-02-16 07:49Shane CantwellWhat, these artists need to project what's on their monitor just to make sure you don't fe
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Shane Cantwell
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Ironic Dance Music
Date:
Tue, 16 Feb 1999 00:49:36 -0700
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Re: (idm) Is it live...? (was: gender)
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What, these artists need to project what's on their monitor just to make sure you don't feel ripped off? I might be bringing a bit too much from the rave mentality, but is a live performance just to hear your favorite performer fuck up trying to recreate what they did in the studio, or is it to share the experience of hearing their work with a bunch of people who share your tastes in an interesting setting with (usually) a much much louder sound system than you have at home? Why does it matter whether that was actually Richard D James here in Denver, and whether he was actually DOING anything while he was laying behind his laptop while those three guys in big fluffy costumes bounced around? The crowd was loving it, I was laughing my ass off at how he was thumbing his nose to everybody, and the music itself was really cool. Damn, I got sucked in, too. --Phrenetic "Life is composed of exquisite moments and the rest is shadows of them." -T.E. Hulme ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris.Hilker <cspot@hyperreal.org> To: Ironic Dance Music <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 12:32 AM Subject: Re: (idm) gender
quoted 9 lines tangent: why do people get so hung up on laptop performances?>>tangent: why do people get so hung up on laptop performances? > >Because they're so easy to fake (see James, Richard). > >C. > >-- >Chris.Hilker (cspot@hyperreal.org) >
1999-02-19 05:50Eric Frans} From: Shane Cantwell } Sent: Monday, February 15, 1999 11:50 PM } } What, these artists
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Eric Frans
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It's Dot Music
Date:
Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:50:44 -0800
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RE: (idm) Is it live...? (was: gender)
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} From: Shane Cantwell } Sent: Monday, February 15, 1999 11:50 PM } } What, these artists need to project what's on their monitor just to make } sure you don't feel ripped off? I might be bringing a bit too } much from the } rave mentality, but is a live performance just to hear your favorite } performer fuck up trying to recreate what they did in the studio, or is it } to share the experience of hearing their work with a bunch of people who } share your tastes in an interesting setting with (usually) a much much } louder sound system than you have at home? } Why does it matter whether that was actually Richard D James here } in Denver, } and whether he was actually DOING anything while he was laying behind his } laptop while those three guys in big fluffy costumes bounced around? The } crowd was loving it, I was laughing my ass off at how he was thumbing his } nose to everybody, and the music itself was really cool. } Damn, I got sucked in, too. } --Phrenetic to further that point, why should it matter if the artist is even present? fsol took this step with their isdn broadcasts. also, recently i've seen some raves listed that feature the typical djs and what-not, but some sections of the rave are listed as having live broadcasts (audio+video i'm assuming) from big name artists like grooverider, hawtin , etc. cheating? i guess it all depends on your desires when going out to see a "live" performance. one thing i know for sure is that as bandwidth and processing speed keeps increasing, this practice will become more common and the division line in this area will become even blurrier... __________________________________________ E r i c F r a n s :: efrans@earthlink.net cellular | si-{cut}.db | so-cal idm swope transmissions http://home.earthlink.net/~efrans on: pelican daughters - bliss [silent]
1999-02-20 01:33Shane CantwellThe one cool thing about Richie Hawtin actually being here in Denver was that I got to sha
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Shane Cantwell
To:
, It's Dot Music
Date:
Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:33:49 -0700
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Re: (idm) Is it live...? (was: gender)
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The one cool thing about Richie Hawtin actually being here in Denver was that I got to shake his hand and thank him for all he's produced. Other than that, the set could've been on a DAT or pumped in through a T1 for all I cared - it was excellent, brain-melting techno that lasted for 3 hours without /any/ noticeable glitches. However, I've heard from several people standing behind him (back"stage" was ridiculously packed) that he basically never stopped working the entire time... I've probably gone pretty far off-topic at this point, so I'll shut up about it. --Phrenetic "Life is composed of exquisite moments and the rest is shadows of them." -T.E. Hulme ----- Original Message ----- From: Eric Frans <efrans@earthlink.net> To: It's Dot Music <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 1999 10:50 PM Subject: RE: (idm) Is it live...? (was: gender)
quoted 8 lines } From: Shane Cantwell>} From: Shane Cantwell >} Sent: Monday, February 15, 1999 11:50 PM >} >} What, these artists need to project what's on their monitor just to make >} sure you don't feel ripped off? I might be bringing a bit too >} much from the >} rave mentality, but is a live performance just to hear your favorite >} performer fuck up trying to recreate what they did in the studio, or is
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quoted 28 lines } to share the experience of hearing their work with a bunch of people who>} to share the experience of hearing their work with a bunch of people who >} share your tastes in an interesting setting with (usually) a much much >} louder sound system than you have at home? >} Why does it matter whether that was actually Richard D James here >} in Denver, >} and whether he was actually DOING anything while he was laying behind his >} laptop while those three guys in big fluffy costumes bounced around? The >} crowd was loving it, I was laughing my ass off at how he was thumbing his >} nose to everybody, and the music itself was really cool. >} Damn, I got sucked in, too. >} --Phrenetic > >to further that point, why should it matter if the artist is even present? >fsol took this step with their isdn broadcasts. also, recently i've seen >some raves listed that feature the typical djs and what-not, but some >sections of the rave are listed as having live broadcasts (audio+video i'm >assuming) from big name artists like grooverider, hawtin , etc. cheating? i >guess it all depends on your desires when going out to see a "live" >performance. one thing i know for sure is that as bandwidth and processing >speed keeps increasing, this practice will become more common and the >division line in this area will become even blurrier... > >__________________________________________ >E r i c F r a n s :: efrans@earthlink.net > cellular | si-{cut}.db | so-cal idm > swope transmissions > http://home.earthlink.net/~efrans >on: pelican daughters - bliss [silent]