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1999-01-14 00:52Clay PigI was just listening to Jega's Spectrum and was wondering if Jega would have to give credi

From:: Clay Pig <claypig@nfdc.net>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 19:52:51 -0500
Subject:: (idm) Jega Matador release . . .

I was just listening to Jega's Spectrum and was wondering if Jega would have to give credit to Dave Brubeck for the obvious "Take Five" sample played throughout track 4 ("Red Mullet"). I just figured Matador might run into legal trouble considering they're a bigger label than Planet u, and it may get noticed. -Steve np: electric sheep - locust lunch 12" [it didn't strike me at first, but i really dig this record. It's nice to hear a healthy departure from the Fakesch/Funkstorung sound which is beginning to bore me. -- ~~Steve Collins~~ "Sometimes, dreams are wiser than waking." -Black Elk http://www.nfdc.net/home/claypig

1999-01-14 16:44Kent WilliamsOn Wed, 13 Jan 1999, Clay Pig wrote: > I was just listening to Jega's Spectrum and was won

From:: Kent Williams <kent@avalon.net>
To:: Clay Pig <claypig@nfdc.net>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:44:55 -0600 (CST)
Subject:: Re: (idm) Jega Matador release . . .
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On Wed, 13 Jan 1999, Clay Pig wrote:

quoted 6 lines I was just listening to Jega's Spectrum and was wondering if Jega would

> I was just listening to Jega's Spectrum and was wondering if Jega would > have to give credit to Dave Brubeck for the obvious "Take Five" sample > played throughout track 4 ("Red Mullet"). I just figured Matador might > run into legal trouble considering they're a bigger label than Planet u, > and it may get noticed. >

Which is the obvious Take 5 sample? The drumming? I grew up listening to the Dave Brubeck record (my mom's copy of 'Take 5' is powdery grey on that track). I guess I can hear that the drums themselves sound like the drum solo from take five, but a) the piece is in 4 and b) the drumming is totally rearranged and reprogrammed. The history of sample piracy suggests that people are not very likely to pursue people who lift small parts of drum loops or break. Otherwise about a thousand people would have been sued by James Brown and Clyde Stubblefield for "funky drummer", or by whatever remains of the Winstons over the "amen brother" break, or Incredible Bongo Band over "apache."

1999-01-14 01:41Jason McCollumClay Pig wrote: > I was just listening to Jega's Spectrum and was wondering if Jega would

From:: Jason McCollum <jm45675@swt.edu>
To:: Clay Pig <claypig@nfdc.net>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 19:41:29 -0600
Subject:: Re: (idm) Jega Matador release . . .

Clay Pig wrote:

quoted 5 lines I was just listening to Jega's Spectrum and was wondering if Jega would

Its quite possible that permission was granted and there may be no legal problems. Here are a few of things I have noticed that would most certainly go against the grain: The Funkenstort 12" by Funkstorung: On the backside, it clearly shows the Apple logo which is a registered trademark by Apple. A track from the Spacepimp 12" on Clear has a sample of the "Axl Foley Theme" from "Beverly Hills Cop" which was wriiten by Jan Hammer. The "Type Zero" 12" on Planet µ: Anime / Robotech / Gundam figure on the cover. perhaps thats why it was limited to 750 copies of the fear that it might make its way to Japan. On Endlessnessism: The track remixed by Funki Porcini... contains that Apple / Macintosh start-up tone. Wagon Christ - Tally Ho! The first track contains piano samples from United Airlines. Some of the above maybe border line. Who really knows??? I can understand, give credit where credit is due... but if you can get away with it. Fine by me. Yeah, I'm bored. -- Jason McCollum jm45675@swt.edu

1999-01-15 11:06Andrew Hime> On Endlessnessism: The track remixed by Funki Porcini... contains that > Apple / Macinto

From:: Andrew Hime <hime@kali.wf.net>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 05:06:05 -0600 (CST)
Subject:: Re: (idm) Jega Matador release . . .
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quoted 2 lines On Endlessnessism: The track remixed by Funki Porcini... contains that

> On Endlessnessism: The track remixed by Funki Porcini... contains that > Apple / Macintosh start-up tone.

cf "Reboot" by 1.8.7 on _Quality Rolls_ Then again, there's "Fuck You Today", featuring the Windows startup tone (thanks, Brian Eno!) on Fluoroscopic Kid's new release. He works in technical support. He hates that sound. He's entitled. :)

quoted 4 lines Some of the above maybe border line. Who really knows??? I can

> Some of the above maybe border line. Who really knows??? I can > understand, give credit where credit is due... but if you can get away with > it. Fine by me. > Yeah, I'm bored.

There's another big big big sample on _Honkeytronica_ that gets played with and twisted (in a fun way, too). I'm not all that worried since an ultra-limited tape release doesn't seem like a money maker for the lawsuit hungry, you know? Andrew Hime Sonic Therapy self-aggrandizer http://www.sonictherapy.com For the subtlety impaired: buy something! "You have the subtlety of a flying mallet." - Dieter

1999-01-15 16:22Irene McCOn 15 Jan 99, Andrew Hime wrote re: Re: (idm) Jega Matador release . . : > featuring the W

From:: Irene McC <substar@iafrica.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 18:22:48 +0200
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On 15 Jan 99, Andrew Hime wrote re: Re: (idm) Jega Matador release . . :

quoted 1 line featuring the Windows startup tone (thanks, Brian Eno!)

> featuring the Windows startup tone (thanks, Brian Eno!)

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