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1998-12-07 21:41John BushA friend of mine in Britain owed me some cash, so I told him to pick up a few UK-only rele

From:: John Bush <johnb@allmusic.com>
To:: IDM <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 16:41:02 -0500
Subject:: (idm) Grooverider 1?-CD

A friend of mine in Britain owed me some cash, so I told him to pick up a few UK-only releases and send 'em to me stateside, including the 2-CD version of Grooverider's Mysteries of Funk. When he sent it to me however, it turned out to be just a single disc -- definitely the UK edition, purchased right at an HMV on Oxford St. Is the 2-CD a limited-edition version or doesn't it exist at all? Can anyone clue me in? I'm just realizing now, that I got paid back the equivalent of $24 to be sent the same disc I could've picked up in the U.S. used for $8 -- doh! Another question: am I missing out with just the single CD? .John.

1998-12-08 16:27Chris BasfordIn message , John Bush <johnb@allmusic.com> writes : >A friend of mine in Britain owed me

From:: Chris Basford <Chris@g3vkm.demon.co.uk>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 16:27:52 +0000
Subject:: Re: (idm) Grooverider 1?-CD

In message , John Bush <johnb@allmusic.com> writes :

quoted 9 lines A friend of mine in Britain owed me some cash, so I told him to pick up a

>A friend of mine in Britain owed me some cash, so I told him to pick up a >few UK-only releases and send 'em to me stateside, including the 2-CD >version of Grooverider's Mysteries of Funk. When he sent it to me however, >it turned out to be just a single disc -- definitely the UK edition, >purchased right at an HMV on Oxford St. Is the 2-CD a limited-edition >version or doesn't it exist at all? Can anyone clue me in? I'm just >realizing now, that I got paid back the equivalent of $24 to be sent the >same disc I could've picked up in the U.S. used for $8 -- doh! Another >question: am I missing out with just the single CD?

There is definitely a 2 CD version, I'm fairly sure it's Limited though. Still fairly easy to find though, even in places like HMV. Excellent album as well, BTW. If it was purchased in Oxford Street, they of all HMV's MUST have had the double album. Obviously, with any album released as a double and then a single album you will be missing out, especially as the vast majority of the tracks on disc 2 are new ones and not remixes of disc 1 tracks :) Bye, PS : This is my first ever post to this list, so... erm... Hello :) Chris Basford E-mail : chris@g3vkm.demon.co.uk

1998-12-08 16:31Joanisse, Robert> The 2xcd version DOES exist....it was on Jay & Marie's list Sunday, but I mailed in my r

From:: Joanisse, Robert <Robert.Joanisse@microcell.ca>
To:: 'idm@hyperreal.org' <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 11:31:16 -0500
Subject:: Re: (idm) Grooverider 1?-CD

quoted 1 line The 2xcd version DOES exist....it was on Jay & Marie's list Sunday, but I

> The 2xcd version DOES exist....it was on Jay & Marie's list Sunday, but I

mailed in my response a bit late (I believe they had it for > 16$). The single one ain't too shabby, though! Why don't you drop Marie and email and see if they will scout you one down?

quoted 1 line Sell the single when you get it. Sorry I can't give you a definitive answer

> Sell the single when you get it. Sorry I can't give you a definitive answer

about what, exactly, composes the 2nd cd - but I'd grab it > on the strength of the 1st - my opinion, of course. The double cd only seems to have two exclusives, unless tracks have been truncated. Anyone know if this is the case? Here's the tracklist of each from cddb: GrooveRider / Mysteries of Funk CD 1: Cybernetic Jazz Rainbows of Colour On the Double Time & Space Where's Jack the Ripper Fly with me C Funk GrooveRider / Mysteries of Funk CD2: Starbase 23 *Time & Space (Heaven Mix) Rivers of Congo Imagination (Parts 1 & 2) 560 Imagination (part 3) *Stay with Me Rainbows of Colour (Heaven's Breath) Grooverider / Mysteries of Funk (1cd ed): Cybernetic Jazz Rainbows of Colour On the Double Time & Space Where's Jack the Ripper? Fly With Me C Funk Imagination (parts 1 & 2) Rivers of Congo Imagination (part 3) 560 Starbase23 Rainbows of Colour (Heaven's Breath)

1998-12-08 17:45John Bush> Is "Mysteries of Funk" actually any good? I like it quite a bit. Only one track, "Where'

From:: John Bush <johnb@allmusic.com>
To:: IDM <idm@hyperreal.org>, Joanisse, Robert <Robert.Joanisse@microcell.ca>
Date:: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 12:45:50 -0500
Subject:: Re: (idm) Grooverider 1?-CD

quoted 1 line Is "Mysteries of Funk" actually any good?

> Is "Mysteries of Funk" actually any good?

I like it quite a bit. Only one track, "Where's Jack the Ripper," really hits that Optical peak though. Of the rest, "Cybernetic Jazz" and "C Funk" are still excellent. I didn't really mind the vocals on "Prototype Years" (I'm not saying they stood out by any means), and there are a few tracks here with that same sort of housey, fusion-soaked sound -- two with female vocals, plus Cleveland Watkiss on another. The whole album compares to Adam F's "Colours" quite well -- though the breaks themselves are quite different, both albums go back and forth between quiet storm/fusion type backing and the really dark stuff. Of course, with the credits -- "All tracks written by Grooverider/Optical, all tracks produced by Grooverider/Optical" -- it makes you wonder who's doing what...

quoted 2 lines The double cd only seems to have two exclusives, unless

> The double cd only seems to have two exclusives, unless > tracks have been truncated.

If it helps anyone figure out possible differences between versions, below are the track times for my 1-CD British version. Several of the four-minute tracks could easily be edits... Grooverider / Mysteries of Funk (1-CD UK): Cybernetic Jazz (9:10) Rainbows of Colour (4:17) On the Double (4:01) Time & Space (7:11) Where's Jack the Ripper? (8:07) Fly With Me (1:56) C Funk (7:41) Imagination (parts 1 & 2) (8:25) Rivers of Congo (6:58) Imagination (part 3) (4:55) 560 (5:40) Starbase23 (8:27) Rainbows of Colour (Heaven's Breath) (0:17)

1998-12-08 17:54~$\({\[Endemic~Distortion\]}$\)~The 2xcd version DOES exist....it was on Jay & Marie's list Sunday, but I mailed in my res

From:: ~$\({\[Endemic~Distortion\]}$\)~ <jpklein@flash.net>
To:: John Bush <johnb@allmusic.com>, Ipso Dicto Mambo <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 09:54:26 -0800
Subject:: Re: (idm) Grooverider 1?-CD

The 2xcd version DOES exist....it was on Jay & Marie's list Sunday, but I mailed in my response a bit late (I believe they had it for 16$). The single one ain't too shabby, though! Why don't you drop Marie and email and see if they will scout you one down? Sell the single when you get it. Sorry I can't give you a definitive answer about what, exactly, composes the 2nd cd - but I'd grab it on the strength of the 1st - my opinion, of course. jeff John Bush wrote:

quoted 11 lines A friend of mine in Britain owed me some cash, so I told him to pick up a

> A friend of mine in Britain owed me some cash, so I told him to pick up a > few UK-only releases and send 'em to me stateside, including the 2-CD > version of Grooverider's Mysteries of Funk. When he sent it to me however, > it turned out to be just a single disc -- definitely the UK edition, > purchased right at an HMV on Oxford St. Is the 2-CD a limited-edition > version or doesn't it exist at all? Can anyone clue me in? I'm just > realizing now, that I got paid back the equivalent of $24 to be sent the > same disc I could've picked up in the U.S. used for $8 -- doh! Another > question: am I missing out with just the single CD? > > .John.

-- jeff ~Living in a world where Jesse("The Body") Ventura gets elected as a State Governor~ dancing/about/architecture "...with wandering steps and slow..." ICQ904008

1998-12-09 16:12Chris BasfordIn message , John Bush <johnb@allmusic.com> writes : >> Is "Mysteries of Funk" actually an

From:: Chris Basford <Chris@g3vkm.demon.co.uk>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 16:12:58 +0000
Subject:: Re: (idm) Grooverider 1?-CD

In message , John Bush <johnb@allmusic.com> writes :

quoted 4 lines Is "Mysteries of Funk" actually any good?

>> Is "Mysteries of Funk" actually any good? > >I like it quite a bit. Only one track, "Where's Jack the Ripper," really >hits that Optical peak though.

This is my favourite track as well. Quite a few people have been voicing concern about how much influence Optical had on the album though.

quoted 3 lines If it helps anyone figure out possible differences between versions, below

>If it helps anyone figure out possible differences between versions, below >are the track times for my 1-CD British version. Several of the >four-minute tracks could easily be edits...

Right, just to clarify this for you, here are the times on the 2 CD version :

quoted 3 lines Grooverider / Mysteries of Funk (1-CD UK):

>Grooverider / Mysteries of Funk (1-CD UK): > >Cybernetic Jazz (9:10)

12:18

quoted 1 line Rainbows of Colour (4:17)

>Rainbows of Colour (4:17)

8:22

quoted 1 line On the Double (4:01)

>On the Double (4:01)