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Re: (idm) Underworld - Mayan Theater LA

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1998-11-24 12:39Will Samuels (idm) Underworld - Mayan Theater LA
1998-11-24 22:38Steven Center Re: (idm) Underworld - Mayan Theater LA
1998-11-25 01:08Will Samuels (idm) Underworld - Mayan Theater LA
└─ 1998-11-25 01:12Michael Upton Re: (idm) Underworld - Mayan Theater LA
1998-11-25 01:09Will Samuels (idm) Underworld - Mayan Theater LA
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1998-11-24 12:39Will SamuelsI know Underworld's not exactly IDM, but I am sure there are plenty of people that have so
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Will Samuels
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Johnny Birkebine , Steve Brown , I DM , Ben Gill
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Tue, 24 Nov 1998 04:39:11 -0800 (PST)
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(idm) Underworld - Mayan Theater LA
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I know Underworld's not exactly IDM, but I am sure there are plenty of people that have some interest in them still. At the last minute I got a free ticket and decided to go. When I saw them at Organic 96, I thought they were really really good. At that show they played all their best songs and it was non- energy. This time around they played alot of their new material which is really BORING. I think they think as long as you have a pounding 909, a weak typical techno bassline and some vocal ramblings than you got yourself a tune! This stuff was so pointless and mediocre. I doubt their new album will be good. One of the tracks almost sounded like Nitzer Ebb the way Karl Hyde sang it. The lyrics were horrible... one song kept saying "push it push it" over and over and I think there was a song that kept saying exercise or something like that. They sound really uninspired and lacking good ideas for material. Speaking of their old tunes. They played alot of their classics: Cowgirl, Rez, Rowla, Cherry Pie, Pearls Girl, Long Train (I think that's the name), Born Slippy, Nuxx. Some of these songs were done well and alot of them were pretty blah or just not as good as they should be. When I saw them in 96 all of their tunes sounded good. This time around it was quite a different story. This was a truly disappointing night. I was bored with most of there set. I highly doubt I will ever go see them again. And I especially doubt I will like anything off their new release (which I think is slated for march). It's too bad that they have gone down hill because I found there last cd to be pretty good. The friend I went with thought they were pretty weak as well. I think he was surprised at how bad alot of there tracks were. Meat Beat Manifesto are playing tonight. At least with them I know I'll get a good show! _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
1998-11-24 22:38Steven Centerfirst, let me echo Will's statement that this is not exactly IDM. i'm sorry if it's not th
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Steven Center
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Will Samuels , that silly blip blip music
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Tue, 24 Nov 1998 14:38:18 -0800
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Re: (idm) Underworld - Mayan Theater LA
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first, let me echo Will's statement that this is not exactly IDM. i'm sorry if it's not that intelligent, but you try to convince the crowd i saw last night that it wasn't dance music. Will Samuels wrote:
quoted 1 line At the last minute I got a free ticket and decided to go.> At the last minute I got a free ticket and decided to go.
i too came upon a free ticket at around 8:00 p.m. and decided to go. sounds like there were a lot of free tickets floating around. like Will, i like a lot of the underworld material, and that last album still puts me in a good mood sometimes. 'born slippy' is one of my favorite 12"s of all time. i also dug their performance at organic 96. last night had its ups and downs, though. the classics have never sounded better, with some great changes to 'born slippy/nuxx' and 'cowgirl'. there is little doubt in my mind that they do indeed mess around with their music quite a bit live, since you can watch the two blokes up on the stage with their entire mixing board messing stuff up the whole time. they even had some technical difficulties more than once during the show, but for all i know that could have been the dat machine queuing. that singer guy has got to go, though. all i could think of the whole night was the singer from everclear crossed with the fella from that band 'live', both of whom i would love to smack around a bit. the new material was indeed quite uninspired and less than intelligent, nothing new at all. one of them was nothing more than yet another take on the acid techno thing. very average overall. i would have been very disappointed if i had paid to see the show, but i can't get too mad when the show is free. i did get to dance a bit, which is always welcome on a monday night. i have to add that the sound was very crisp and clear and the visuals were very well done. the mayan is a cool place to see a show. it's not cramped small, but it is far from immense. that's all. stv mrlumpy@peachfuzz.net (i just got to teach my new e-mail program's spellcheck a new word: techno)
1998-11-25 01:08Will Samuels--"Daniel M." <danielm@tcelectronic.com> wrote: >> This stuff was so pointless and mediocr
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Will Samuels
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danielm@tcelectronic.com
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I DM
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Tue, 24 Nov 1998 17:08:44 -0800 (PST)
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(idm) Underworld - Mayan Theater LA
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--"Daniel M." <danielm@tcelectronic.com> wrote:
quoted 1 line This stuff was so pointless and mediocre. I doubt >> their new>> This stuff was so pointless and mediocre. I doubt >> their new
album will be good.
quoted 1 line What I've heard so far has been quite good. I think > that a lot of> What I've heard so far has been quite good. I think > that a lot of
the subtle "complexities" that you may > hear in their recordings don't translate well live, > if they're even played at all. No it was just crap! They did a much better job translating their songs live in 96. Did you think the song from the Batman sdtk - Moaner was good? I thought it was terrible. At first I thought it was some crap they just decided to throw to the label to make a quick buck. After hearing alot of their new songs last night and how mediocre they were I think they were serious about that Moaner tune. The beats were weak, the basslines sucked and the vocals sucked on the new material.
quoted 1 line Their focus live seems to be more on the > 4-to-the-floor thing,> Their focus live seems to be more on the > 4-to-the-floor thing,
for the energy I suppose. Oh yeah obviously. It was still pretty weak though.
quoted 1 line There is a fair bit of improv in the mixing/track > muting live> There is a fair bit of improv in the mixing/track > muting live
and as with any improv situation, it can > be hit or miss musically. They pulled it off splendidly in 96, this time around they were pretty blah.
quoted 1 line Long Train (I think that's the name)> >Long Train (I think that's the name)
quoted 1 line Dark Train, perhaps.> Dark Train, perhaps.
No it's not that song. It was in Trainspotting but not on the soundtrack...think the heroin withdrawal scene with the baby on the ceiling. It was also on a single. I think it was called Long Train. At least I didn't pay to see them. Can't wait for MEat Beat in a few hours. Cheers _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
1998-11-25 01:12Michael UptonOn Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Will Samuels wrote: | > >Long Train (I think that's the name) | | > D
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Michael Upton
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I'm indulgent - nice castle
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Wed, 25 Nov 1998 14:12:22 +1300 (NZDT)
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Re: (idm) Underworld - Mayan Theater LA
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On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Will Samuels wrote: | > >Long Train (I think that's the name) | | > Dark Train, perhaps. | | No it's not that song. It was in Trainspotting but not on the | soundtrack...think the heroin withdrawal scene with the baby on the | ceiling. It was also on a single. I think it was called Long Train. From memory it's Long Dark Train, a remix of Dark and Long. It's on the single, and probably on the second Trainspotting album. Michael ____________________________________________ "Also, he has automatic evasion devices" http://www.vuw.ac.nz/~michael/jj.html
1998-11-25 01:09Will Samuels--"Daniel M." <danielm@tcelectronic.com> wrote: >> This stuff was so pointless and mediocr
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Will Samuels
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I DM
Date:
Tue, 24 Nov 1998 17:09:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject:
(idm) Underworld - Mayan Theater LA
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--"Daniel M." <danielm@tcelectronic.com> wrote:
quoted 1 line This stuff was so pointless and mediocre. I doubt >> their new>> This stuff was so pointless and mediocre. I doubt >> their new
album will be good.
quoted 1 line What I've heard so far has been quite good. I think > that a lot of> What I've heard so far has been quite good. I think > that a lot of
the subtle "complexities" that you may > hear in their recordings don't translate well live, > if they're even played at all. No it was just crap! They did a much better job translating their songs live in 96. Did you think the song from the Batman sdtk - Moaner was good? I thought it was terrible. At first I thought it was some crap they just decided to throw to the label to make a quick buck. After hearing alot of their new songs last night and how mediocre they were I think they were serious about that Moaner tune. The beats were weak, the basslines sucked and the vocals sucked on the new material.
quoted 1 line Their focus live seems to be more on the > 4-to-the-floor thing,> Their focus live seems to be more on the > 4-to-the-floor thing,
for the energy I suppose. Oh yeah obviously. It was still pretty weak though.
quoted 1 line There is a fair bit of improv in the mixing/track > muting live> There is a fair bit of improv in the mixing/track > muting live
and as with any improv situation, it can > be hit or miss musically. They pulled it off splendidly in 96, this time around they were pretty blah.
quoted 1 line Long Train (I think that's the name)> >Long Train (I think that's the name)
quoted 1 line Dark Train, perhaps.> Dark Train, perhaps.
No it's not that song. It was in Trainspotting but not on the soundtrack...think the heroin withdrawal scene with the baby on the ceiling. It was also on a single. I think it was called Long Train. At least I didn't pay to see them. Can't wait for MEat Beat in a few hours. Cheers _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com