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1998-11-08 23:02Hrvatski RE: (idm) idm-digest V2 #405/Clifford
├─ 1998-11-09 07:12Aaron S Michelson (idm) Re: Clifford
└─ 1998-11-09 07:35Tim Koch (idm) Re: Sqrpshr/Funkstautechre
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1998-11-08 23:02Hrvatski>> I have to agree wholeheartedly with this. If it isn't Tom, then this disc >> is the >>
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quoted 3 lines I have to agree wholeheartedly with this. If it isn't Tom, then this disc>> I have to agree wholeheartedly with this. If it isn't Tom, then this disc >> is the >> most derivitive thing ever produced.
quoted 3 lines so does this mean that if i buy this and pretend its by tom jenkinson, it'll>so does this mean that if i buy this and pretend its by tom jenkinson, it'll >be really good? >-martin
Yeah, I can't say I agree with this... It must be Jenskinson. It's average SQP material which on it's own still sounds great in comparison to most breakbeat-jazz (read:'jazzy breakbeat'). I'm just baffled by the prospect of it being a third-party producer... Våt. ----------------------------------- Reckankreuzungs Klankewerkzeuge Limited PO BOX 382864 Cambridge, MA 02238-2864 USA is on line @ http://www.tiac.net/users/sheket ------------------------------------------------
1998-11-09 07:12Aaron S MichelsonExcerpts from mail: 8-Nov-98 RE: (idm) idm-digest V2 #40.. by Hrvatski@tiac.net > Yeah, I
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Excerpts from mail: 8-Nov-98 RE: (idm) idm-digest V2 #40.. by Hrvatski@tiac.net
quoted 4 lines Yeah, I can't say I agree with this... It must be Jenskinson. It's average> Yeah, I can't say I agree with this... It must be Jenskinson. It's average > SQP material which on it's own still sounds great in comparison to most > breakbeat-jazz (read:'jazzy breakbeat'). I'm just baffled by the prospect > of it being a third-party producer... Våt.
Yes, some of the tracks do some very much like Tom Jenkinson's output. However, much of the album is different. To add some comparisons, there are a few tracks that sound like newer Funki Porcini, and old Amon Tobin Cujo-era stuff. I'm quite appalled that people would discount Clifford Gilberto as a rip-off artist. I think that the album is a really gorgeous listen from beginning to end. Whether or not some of the sound is a bit err.. borrowed remains to be determined by the individual listener. Clifford Gilberto is about as much Squarepusher as Funkstorung is to Autechre, or Komputer is to Kraftwerk. Aaron
1998-11-09 07:35Tim Koch> SQP material which on it's own still sounds great in comparison to most > breakbeat-jazz
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quoted 4 lines SQP material which on it's own still sounds great in comparison to most> SQP material which on it's own still sounds great in comparison to most > breakbeat-jazz (read:'jazzy breakbeat'). I'm just baffled by the prospect > of it being a third-party producer... V?t. >
Just as baffled as I was when I heard Funkstorung's Post Art/Sanderdienste .. every Ae trade mark appears at one stage or another .. fucked up vox, 16th/24th note rolls , tempo merging, repetitive melodies with big bass stabs on upbeats etc. I admire their work , but I just can't get past the level of imitation . (thanks again for the cdr's Melinda :) ) Tim.