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1998-11-04 23:48brian::audio (idm) no more u.s. ae shows?
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1998-11-04 23:48brian::audioi was poking around a bit on warpnet today at work, and i noticed that the blurb about ae
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i was poking around a bit on warpnet today at work, and i noticed that the blurb about ae US tour dates has been deleted. does this mean that we shouldn't be looking forward to ae on the west coast anytime soon? anyone got a clue? aargh. -- brian rachielles -- audio@rain.org -- http://www.rain.org/~audio
1998-11-05 10:35Greg EdenOn Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:48:19 -0800 (PST), you wrote: >i was poking around a bit on warpnet
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On Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:48:19 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
quoted 4 lines i was poking around a bit on warpnet today at work, and i>i was poking around a bit on warpnet today at work, and i >noticed that the blurb about ae US tour dates has been >deleted. does this mean that we shouldn't be looking >forward to ae on the west coast anytime soon?
there are no current plans for ae to tour in the usa (or anywhere else for that matter) AFAIK. ::greg ::www.warprecords.com
1998-11-05 11:01ibss@ukrpack.netHi All! Does anybody know if there is a some kind of special intent in a empty space on th
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Hi All! Does anybody know if there is a some kind of special intent in a empty space on the last track of Ae's LP5? Did they give any comments on that. I burned it as I was not able to buy original one yet and because of the total time exceeding the capabilities of the CD-R I shortened that empty space by two mins. Did I ruin the whole concept or not? Maybe there are some inaudible information? (of course it sounds silly but who knows?) take care Alien
1998-11-05 23:57Rgeary2@aol.comI believe the empty space is just that...empty space. It's an old trick, really--and it do
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I believe the empty space is just that...empty space. It's an old trick, really--and it does one of a couple of things. --hides a bonus track, or in AE's case bonus noise, so that if you just get up and turn off the player after the last track you'll miss it. --sort of serves as a conceptual separator, making the album as a whole the songs preceeding the blank, and then making a little 'experimental space' for you. i think this is the point of the space on beck's new one-- after 11 really low key songs, there's one kinda psychedelic rocker after that. actually, i wonder if the silence & bonus noise is a nod to weird rockers like beck and sonic youth...i know beck has been doing that for years, and the liner notes to 'stereopathetic soulmanure' cheerily inform the reader that after the songs they'll be treated to "four minutes of silence and bonus noise." So short answer-- nah, you're not really shortchanging yourself by cutting the silence down. in fact, i think AE's goes on a little long, and only makes sense when you have the disc on loop, as someone previously brought up. rob ooh, one other thought--since most (? many?) people now have cd changers, maybe the bonus silence is to put a nice space between one disc and the next, giving you a little time to think/readjust after AE? hmm...i know it had that effect for me last night, where the move from AE to Miles' Bitches Brew was eased a bit.
1998-11-06 09:19m@I don't know if anybody else has run into this, but the end of that bit of noise on LP5 co
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I don't know if anybody else has run into this, but the end of that bit of noise on LP5 confuses all of the cd players I've tried it on and causes them to replay the last few seconds infinitely. Took me a good 10 minutes to notice in my car when I played it the first time. m@
1998-11-06 08:21ibss@ukrpack.netThank you for your answer. You've confirmed what I thought with new ideas added. I meet su
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Thank you for your answer. You've confirmed what I thought with new ideas added. I meet such empty spaces from time to time in various albums, like Orb's Orblivion and Tony Wakeford's Le Croix. What I noticed is that many people usually miss that bonus track. And even when they discover it they tend to miss it due to blank space they do not want to listen to. Most of them do not want to have it when they tape it. I, personally, usually try to leave everything as it is. In Ae's case my opinion is that it is like as you said the time to think/readjust after listening to it as noone can say that they make easy to comprehend music. Take care. Alien P.S. I never put Ae's discs in the queue of the discs in the changer as for me it would be just horrible to listen to something like Miles after Ae made their own universe in my imagination. It would destroy the picture. Sorry, tastes differ. 8) Rgeary2@aol.com wrote:
quoted 28 lines I believe the empty space is just that...empty space. It's an old trick,> I believe the empty space is just that...empty space. It's an old trick, > really--and it does one of a couple of things. > > --hides a bonus track, or in AE's case bonus noise, so that if you just get up > and turn off the player after the last track you'll miss it. > > --sort of serves as a conceptual separator, making the album as a whole the > songs preceeding the blank, and then making a little 'experimental space' for > you. i think this is the point of the space on beck's new one-- after 11 > really low key songs, there's one kinda psychedelic rocker after that. > > actually, i wonder if the silence & bonus noise is a nod to weird rockers like > beck and sonic youth...i know beck has been doing that for years, and the > liner notes to 'stereopathetic soulmanure' cheerily inform the reader that > after the songs they'll be treated to "four minutes of silence and bonus > noise." > > So short answer-- nah, you're not really shortchanging yourself by cutting the > silence down. in fact, i think AE's goes on a little long, and only makes > sense when you have the disc on loop, as someone previously brought up. > > rob > > ooh, one other thought--since most (? many?) people now have cd changers, > maybe the bonus silence is to put a nice space between one disc and the next, > giving you a little time to think/readjust after AE? hmm...i know it had that > effect for me last night, where the move from AE to Miles' Bitches Brew was > eased a bit.