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On Tue, 27 Oct 1998, zimbo wrote: | any comments on the echodek 7" boxset from primal scream? | someone said it was dub mixes.. im curious.. Yeah, it is dubs by Adrian Sherwood of On-U Sound. I've got the CD version of Echodek, and it's pretty good, but I don't listen to it often. I find it really "heavy" sounding, but I don't really know how to explain that very well. I guess it's that the beats are quite industrial in their sound and programming, and there isn't much space in the mixes. It's certainly not a chilled out version of 'Vanishing Point' or anything. Michael ____________________________________________ "Also, he has automatic evasion devices" http://www.vuw.ac.nz/~michael/jj.html

I think it's fabulous. One of the few dub discs I've bought recently (and I've been buying a lot) that I'd truly call "devastating dub". Brian On Wed, 28 Oct 1998, Michael Upton wrote:

quoted 22 lines On Tue, 27 Oct 1998, zimbo wrote:

> On Tue, 27 Oct 1998, zimbo wrote: > > | any comments on the echodek 7" boxset from primal scream? > > | someone said it was dub mixes.. im curious.. > > Yeah, it is dubs by Adrian Sherwood of On-U Sound. > I've got the CD version of Echodek, and it's > pretty good, but I don't listen to it often. I > find it really "heavy" sounding, but I don't > really know how to explain that very well. I guess > it's that the beats are quite industrial in their > sound and programming, and there isn't much > space in the mixes. It's certainly not a chilled > out version of 'Vanishing Point' or anything. > > Michael > > ____________________________________________ > "Also, he has automatic evasion devices" > http://www.vuw.ac.nz/~michael/jj.html >

quoted 15 lines | any comments on the echodek 7" boxset from primal scream?

> > | any comments on the echodek 7" boxset from primal scream? > > | someone said it was dub mixes.. im curious.. > > Yeah, it is dubs by Adrian Sherwood of On-U Sound. > I've got the CD version of Echodek, and it's > pretty good, but I don't listen to it often. I > find it really "heavy" sounding, but I don't > really know how to explain that very well. I guess > it's that the beats are quite industrial in their > sound and programming, and there isn't much > space in the mixes. It's certainly not a chilled > out version of 'Vanishing Point' or anything. >

if you like primal scream or on-u its probably the best thing they've done for a while. v. heavy but in a everything *and* the kitchen sink approach (some o' those bells ringin samples date back 10+ yrs, circa "ghetto dub" by bim sherman, and a lot inbetween). if you want dub that v. seriously sounds like your record collection falling down the stairs, and aren't a 70's purist then its worth getting. the cd versh. seems more playable (as in home vs. being a dj) tho' the box is supposed ltd, 'cept in a way that still sees it in record stores (i.e. no sell on profit). also not as much of bobby boy on the vocals (millions plus points). i think the 'industrial' tag on the beats is a touch misleading, but thats because i always thought industrial had shitty rhythmn, liked the noise part tho'. -martin

On 28 Oct 98, Michael Upton wrote re: Re: (idm) primal scream?:

quoted 2 lines and there isn't much space in the mixes. It's certainly not a

> and there isn't much space in the mixes. It's certainly not a > chilled out version of 'Vanishing Point' or anything.

I agree with Michael - being both a huge dub fan and also loving Vanishing Point, Echo Dek is not a far enough departure from the original at all. As a stand-alone without knowing the Scream's album it might have impressed me more, but coming as it did hot on the heels of VP, I was disappointed that all Adrian Sherwood added were a few doorbell rings, the odd bit of hard panning and - tell the truth - not THAT much else. I *