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i recently purchased plastikman - 'consumed'. i liked the cd, but have a question: do plastikman's other cd's, (sheet one, for instance) sound like this? I thought maybe consumed was a downtempo cd much like RDJ made SAWII. thanks, sam

sam stein wrote:

quoted 3 lines i recently purchased plastikman - 'consumed'. i liked the cd, but have

> i recently purchased plastikman - 'consumed'. i liked the cd, but have > a question: do plastikman's other cd's, (sheet one, for instance) sound > like this?

no they're more acidy with lots high pitched chirping and louder thump thump beats, not as subconscious as consumed or as dark ...if you like that then try _concept 1 : 96CD_ by Hawtin as well, same vibe to it. spaul

On Tue, 15 Sep 1998, Simon Paul wrote:

quoted 10 lines sam stein wrote:

> > > sam stein wrote: > > > i recently purchased plastikman - 'consumed'. i liked the cd, but have > > no they're more acidy with lots high pitched chirping and louder thump > thump beats, not as subconscious as consumed or as dark ...if you like that > then try _concept 1 : 96CD_ by Hawtin as well, same vibe to it. >

also of course remixes of the same, by thomas brinkmann. i gather that his treatment of the original is fairly minimal.. i am told that he played the original records on a custom turntable with a second, adjustably-positioned stylus. err.. maybe this has already been discussed, but does anyone know quite why, apart from the conceptual or visual aesthetics, one might prefer une telle hydraique tt to.. say.. two turntables or a simple delay? also, if someone could point me to a t. brinkmann disco-graphy, i'd be much obliged. thank you, yon

At 05:11 PM 9/15/98 -0500, you wrote:

quoted 6 lines also of course remixes of the same, by thomas brinkmann. i gather that

> >also of course remixes of the same, by thomas brinkmann. i gather that >his treatment of the original is fairly minimal.. i am told that he played >the original records on a custom turntable with a second, >adjustably-positioned stylus. >

the brinkmann concept 1 remix cd is no where near as minimal as the originals. in fact he adds alot of warmth, depth and insane panning effects to the mix giving the tracks a 'musik-style' plastikman vs basic channel sound which will make this cd one of my top 5 in 98.

quoted 4 lines err.. maybe this has already been discussed, but does anyone know quite

>err.. maybe this has already been discussed, but does anyone know quite >why, apart from the conceptual or visual aesthetics, one might prefer une >telle hydraique tt to.. say.. two turntables or a simple delay? >

Here is the info i have about Brinkmann's turntable setup: "I used a self-made turntable with 30 kilo plate, and two SME 309 Tone Arms utilizing both Ortofon and Van den Hul moving-coil pickups." Using the original Concept 1 records on his two-arm turntable, Thomas found unheard dynamics within these recordings. Even the imperfections of the vinyl pressing process find new character within his Variations. "The interventions with the actual vinyl are few: I slowed down the speed of the record and used the left pickup (arm) for the left channel, and the right pickup (arm) for the right channel. I found out that the use of different pickup systems for both channels is important for the sound," Brinkmann adds. "It's possible to hear a melodic displacement between the channels." Re-thinking the depth of sound, Thomas said, "I don't believe in creativity, but in sensibility. We have to invent the things to make them visible or audible, even though they had been there before, only invisible and inaudible."

quoted 3 lines also, if someone could point me to a t. brinkmann disco-graphy, i'd be

>also, if someone could point me to a t. brinkmann disco-graphy, i'd be >much obliged. thank you, >

Here is what i have from Brinkmann: . Thomas Brinkmann: Stuidio 1 - Variationen 12" (Profan) . Thomas Brinkmann: Stuidio 1 - Variationen 2 12" (Profan) . Thomas Brinkmann: Studio1 - Variatonen cd (Profan) . Ester Brinkmann: Totes Rennen cd (Suppose) . Ester Brinkmann: Voran 12" (Suppose) . Thomas Brinkmann: Anna/Beate 12" (Ernst 01) . Thomas Brinkmann: Clara/Doris 12" (Ernst 02) . Thomas Brinkmann: Erika/Frauke 12" (Ernst 03) . Thomas Brinkmann: Axel 12" (Max 01) -->-Lance--- p.o. box 450715 westlake, ohio 44145 united states

hi again... im not a label or anything but heres my one post for/in a while. on the agenda: METHOD IN MY TRAINSPOTTING MADNESS of course i dont get to hear much in ottawa so i mainly go by distro/mail order hype to choose my purchases. now, theres a lot i dont remember ordering yet keep because its good... lets see if any of you can fill the gaps (its also good to get more than one person's angle on these) any other related suggestions? -two 12", one bearing nothing but doris/clara, another reading axel/bernd. i suppose those are the kanzlermat (oooooh whatever) releases that all the movie stars are talking about. your turn -another pair of vinches, on airlock. discuss. -bergheim 34 cd. start _________________________ FALL TRADES - sorry about the b/width, where's Whitezone when you need it? havent been doing a lot of those in while here goes for the more important/recent stuff: *get this hague stuff outta my face: -VIEWLEXX double seven inch (001 I THINK - pink and green) by Beverly Hills 808303 (errr, clever?). them apples dont be seen often so hop in, electro fans! -MURDER CAPITAL 001 by I-F. again, first come first serve -LONNY & MELVIN 12" on sabotage: not rare but you might have missed the boat. SKAM!!!!! s-k-a-m! Jega's SKA 009 and Gescom 10 DISKONO!!!! both diskono's SCHEMATIC 5/6: coleman and metic EMAIL me for wants list... I SLEPT while the Gefriem Schlammpeitziger CD (if such thing there is) was flying off the shelves and now want it... if can help ill trade for the items above other stuff (records)... i believe thats it, if not for the slightest matter of WHAT THE HELL IS UP WITH OBSESSIVE EYE? i finally got it in the mail last week and have been flabbergasted by how badly written and uninformative/grade-niner-deep-thoughts-ish/uninspired it is. no other arguments for now (uninspired myself), so well let the thread grow naturally (it might happen) and i can better explain this in the light of your own observations... later, idm, jif

quoted 9 lines of course i dont get to hear much in ottawa so i mainly go by distro/mail

> of course i dont get to hear much in ottawa so i mainly go by distro/mail > order hype to choose my purchases. now, theres a lot i dont remember > ordering yet keep because its good... lets see if any of you can fill the > gaps (its also good to get more than one person's angle on these) any other > related suggestions? > > -two 12", one bearing nothing but doris/clara, another reading axel/bernd. > i suppose those are the kanzlermat (oooooh whatever) releases that all the > movie stars are talking about. your turn

I know that the "doris/clara" record is on Ernst, the label Thomas Brinkmann set up. I believe all of the releases thus far are women's names, and all are recorded @ 133.33 BPM (one full revolution on a 12" record) so very strange patterns are formed in the vinyl. Lance, I know Brinkmann's a favorite of yours, any more info? I don't own any of 'em yet, I've only seen one in the shop & wasn't taken enough to buy it at the time. Cheers, Bill / dj marathon -- Sigma6 Interactive Media / http://www.sigma6.com dj marathon: "fibre" up now @ http://www.flatplastic.com/